Olimar (SSBB)

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==Attributes==

Olimar is a unique character. All but six of his attacks rely on Pikmin to perform, each with unique characteristics and suitability to each type of move. As such, it is difficult to quantify the effectiveness of any particular class of Olimar's moves. In general, the Pikmin can do severe damage if not dealt with, they can block certain moves to halt approaches or recoveries (like Ike's [[Quick Draw]] and Ness' [[PK Thunder]]), they can allow some of Olimar's attacks to continue even if he is hit, and they can combine to become a long tether. In addition, if Pikmin are ordered correctly, Olimar can have powerful throws (using Blue Pikmin), the longest grab range in the game (White or Blue), great aerials (Red, Yellow, and Purple), extremely damaging and powerful smash attacks (Purple), and a highly-damaging projectile in [[Pikmin Throw]] (White). Olimar generally has quick, long-lasting attacks, including his useful down aerial [[meteor smash]], and he is one of the smallest characters in the game, a factor that when combined with his [[Pikmin Order]]'s [[~~launch resistance~~]] makes KO'ing Olimar not a small task. He can also be very difficult to approach if wielding many Pikmin. Finally, Olimar's primary three Pikmin (Red, Yellow and Blue) are each immune to certain types of attacks ([[flame~~|fire~~]], [[electric]]ity, and [[water]] respectively), making them more difficult to deal with in certain matchups.

Olimar is a unique character. All but six of his attacks rely on Pikmin to perform, each with unique characteristics and suitability to each type of move. As such, it is difficult to quantify the effectiveness of any particular class of Olimar's moves. In general, the Pikmin can do severe damage if not dealt with, they can block certain moves to halt approaches or recoveries (like Ike's [[Quick Draw]] and Ness' [[PK Thunder]]), they can allow some of Olimar's attacks to continue even if he is hit, and they can combine to become a long tether. In addition, if Pikmin are ordered correctly, Olimar can have powerful throws (using Blue Pikmin), the longest grab range in the game (White or Blue), great aerials (Red, Yellow, and Purple), extremely damaging and powerful smash attacks (Purple), and a highly-damaging projectile in [[Pikmin Throw]] (White). Olimar generally has quick, long-lasting attacks, including his useful down aerial [[meteor smash]], and he is one of the smallest characters in the game, a factor that when combined with his [[Pikmin Order]]'s [[armor]] makes KO'ing Olimar not a small task. He can also be very difficult to approach if wielding many Pikmin. Finally, Olimar's primary three Pikmin (Red, Yellow and Blue) are each immune to certain types of attacks ([[flame]], [[electric]]ity, and [[water]] respectively), making them more difficult to deal with in certain matchups.

At his purest, Olimar is about damage. Aside from Purples, all his Pikmin can be continuously thrown at the opponent until they are up close, constantly racking up the damage, while Olimar has two Pikmin-less moves capable of sucking in the opponent for more damage in his up-tilt and neutral-air. Pikmin Throw can be the most damaging projectile in the game should the opponent be indifferent or occupied (one White Pikmin can do up to 36% damage when the target starts with low percent and does not knock it off). Also note that Olimar's [[forward smash]], [[Pikmin Throw|side special]], and [[grab]] all look similar, making it difficult to tell what he is doing. He can continuously guard himself with long-lasting/reaching moves for the opponent to run into, in their hurry to stop having Pikmin assault them. Olimar is arguably the best shield-grabber in the game, with his grab range being fantastic on all Pikmin except Purples; the range is good enough to make up for the slight lag of the grab as opponents are occasionally too far away to take advantage of the grab attempt (unless they've [[sidestep]]ped). Olimar is excellent at popping the opponent into the air for aerial damage with his fast, deceptively-ranged (in front) up-smash, best performed with a Yellow Pikmin for max range. From there, he has a long-lasting up-air which serves as both a superb defence above him, as well as an excellent way to harass opponents returning to the ground, and it cancels quick enough to throw up another up-air, an up-smash, or a [[Pikmin Chain]] should they be more to the front of Olimar. Like {{SSBB|Falco}}, even good players can count on a good Olimar taking the first 50% or so of a stock without a problem, especially if down tilt, Olimar's best setup move regardless of percent, hits.

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Olimar's not bad at KOs, either. Rarely can an opponent facing an Olimar predict which Pikmin is coming next, or how, so surprise Purple smashes or Red aerials can cause serious problems. Forward smash in particular is deadly, due to its range, power (especially with a Purple), and how difficult it is to punish, while a Purple up smash can KO in the 80%'s if fresh (while players would prefer to use the up smash early and often for spacing purposes, they will attempt to save it for surprise KOs in doubles). Blue Pikmin horizontal throws, along with Purple Pikmin vertical throws, are also cause for concern due to their KO'ing ability.

Though he has significant strengths, he does have his drawbacks. If Olimar has no Pikmin in his lineup, none of his smashes, directional aerials, grabs, or damaging special moves have any effect, rendering the majority of his moveset unusable until he obtains Pikmin. This problem is heightened as Olimar loses all his Pikmin when he is KO'd, making him predictable for the first few seconds of every stock (save for the first) because most Olimar players will most likely use their [[invincibility frames]] for plucking Pikmin instead of attacking. All Pikmin (excluding Blue ones) drown in water deep enough to cover their whole body, which can make him vulnerable when fighting on stages such as [[Jungle Japes]] and [[Summit]]. As Olimar does not perform grabs himself, he does not gain ~~launch resistance~~ from them (only the grabbing Pikmin does) and so he cannot grab through opponents' attacks, unlike all other characters. He is also a very light and floaty character; his floatiness makes him easy for most characters to juggle, especially since his aerials have unusual [[priority]] rules that hamper his ability to counter other aerials, and his neutral air (his only non-Pikmin air attack) is not designed for defense. His mobility is also slow, both in the air and on the ground. Olimar players must also learn what each Pikmin are capable of and must adapt to each one, especially in the middle of a fight - a careless or inattentive Olimar player may miss a sure KO if a Purple smash or grab is out of range or a White Pikmin is used to attack by mistake. Combined with needing to pay attention to Pikmin that do unexpected things due to randomness or glitches, this gives him an extremely high learning curve.

Though he has significant strengths, he does have his drawbacks. If Olimar has no Pikmin in his lineup, none of his smashes, directional aerials, grabs, or damaging special moves have any effect, rendering the majority of his moveset unusable until he obtains Pikmin. This problem is heightened as Olimar loses all his Pikmin when he is KO'd, making him predictable for the first few seconds of every stock (save for the first) because most Olimar players will most likely use their [[invincibility frames]] for plucking Pikmin instead of attacking. All Pikmin (excluding Blue ones) drown in water deep enough to cover their whole body, which can make him vulnerable when fighting on stages such as [[Jungle Japes]] and [[Summit]]. As Olimar does not perform grabs himself, he does not gain armor from them (only the grabbing Pikmin does) and so he cannot grab through opponents' attacks, unlike all other characters. He is also a very light and floaty character; his floatiness makes him easy for most characters to juggle, especially since his aerials have unusual [[priority]] rules that hamper his ability to counter other aerials, and his neutral air (his only non-Pikmin air attack) is not designed for defense. His mobility is also slow, both in the air and on the ground. Olimar players must also learn what each Pikmin are capable of and must adapt to each one, especially in the middle of a fight - a careless or inattentive Olimar player may miss a sure KO if a Purple smash or grab is out of range or a White Pikmin is used to attack by mistake. Combined with needing to pay attention to Pikmin that do unexpected things due to randomness or glitches, this gives him an extremely high learning curve.

Olimar's biggest problem is his abysmal recovery. Although his double jump is decent, he has poor [[air speed]] and relies on a [[tether recovery]]. As a result, he is at the mercy of [[edge hogging]], and because the move puts him into the [[helpless]] state he must attempt to throw Pikmin to fend off an opponent trying to do so before he attempts to grab the edge - and since the length of his tether is based on how many Pikmin are in his line, this can make the problem worse by hurting how far away he can grab the edge from. It also means that, should the opponent manage to get Olimar down a few Pikmin, he will have much fewer options when put off the stage and have a good chance at being [[gimp]]ed (despite his slightly wider [[meteor cancel]] window). Olimar is also on the low end of the [[weight]] scale, which reduces the time needed for his recovery weakness to assert itself.

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|dsdesc=Olimar quickly blows his whistle, and a colored area surrounding him. Any Pikmin that are separated from Olimar will immediately fly to his side after a split second . This can be used to recall ones that have fallen behind or are pummeling an enemy, though Pikmin in the midst of some actions (such as travelling after being thrown) cannot be recalled. This ~~moves~~ gives Olimar [[~~super~~ armor]].

|dsdesc=Olimar quickly blows his whistle, and a colored area surrounding him. Any Pikmin that are separated from Olimar will immediately fly to his side after a split second . This can be used to recall ones that have fallen behind or are pummeling an enemy, though Pikmin in the midst of some actions (such as travelling after being thrown) cannot be recalled. This move gives Olimar [[armor]].

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|fsdmg=10% (bury), 15% (ascent), 43% (Bulborbs), 10% (descent), 15%/20% (landing)

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 ==Attributes==
-Olimar is a unique character. All but six of his attacks rely on Pikmin to perform, each with unique characteristics and suitability to each type of move. As such, it is difficult to quantify the effectiveness of any particular class of Olimar's moves. In general, the Pikmin can do severe damage if not dealt with, they can block certain moves to halt approaches or recoveries (like Ike's [[Quick Draw]] and Ness' [[PK Thunder]]), they can allow some of Olimar's attacks to continue even if he is hit, and they can combine to become a long tether. In addition, if Pikmin are ordered correctly, Olimar can have powerful throws (using Blue Pikmin), the longest grab range in the game (White or Blue), great aerials (Red, Yellow, and Purple), extremely damaging and powerful smash attacks (Purple), and a highly-damaging projectile in [[Pikmin Throw]] (White). Olimar generally has quick, long-lasting attacks, including his useful down aerial [[meteor smash]], and he is one of the smallest characters in the game, a factor that when combined with his [[Pikmin Order]]'s [[launch resistance]] makes KO'ing Olimar not a small task. He can also be very difficult to approach if wielding many Pikmin. Finally, Olimar's primary three Pikmin (Red, Yellow and Blue) are each immune to certain types of attacks ([[flame|fire]], [[electric]]ity, and [[water]] respectively), making them more difficult to deal with in certain matchups.
+Olimar is a unique character. All but six of his attacks rely on Pikmin to perform, each with unique characteristics and suitability to each type of move. As such, it is difficult to quantify the effectiveness of any particular class of Olimar's moves. In general, the Pikmin can do severe damage if not dealt with, they can block certain moves to halt approaches or recoveries (like Ike's [[Quick Draw]] and Ness' [[PK Thunder]]), they can allow some of Olimar's attacks to continue even if he is hit, and they can combine to become a long tether. In addition, if Pikmin are ordered correctly, Olimar can have powerful throws (using Blue Pikmin), the longest grab range in the game (White or Blue), great aerials (Red, Yellow, and Purple), extremely damaging and powerful smash attacks (Purple), and a highly-damaging projectile in [[Pikmin Throw]] (White). Olimar generally has quick, long-lasting attacks, including his useful down aerial [[meteor smash]], and he is one of the smallest characters in the game, a factor that when combined with his [[Pikmin Order]]'s [[armor]] makes KO'ing Olimar not a small task. He can also be very difficult to approach if wielding many Pikmin. Finally, Olimar's primary three Pikmin (Red, Yellow and Blue) are each immune to certain types of attacks ([[flame]], [[electric]]ity, and [[water]] respectively), making them more difficult to deal with in certain matchups.
 At his purest, Olimar is about damage. Aside from Purples, all his Pikmin can be continuously thrown at the opponent until they are up close, constantly racking up the damage, while Olimar has two Pikmin-less moves capable of sucking in the opponent for more damage in his up-tilt and neutral-air. Pikmin Throw can be the most damaging projectile in the game should the opponent be indifferent or occupied (one White Pikmin can do up to 36% damage when the target starts with low percent and does not knock it off). Also note that Olimar's [[forward smash]], [[Pikmin Throw|side special]], and [[grab]] all look similar, making it difficult to tell what he is doing. He can continuously guard himself with long-lasting/reaching moves for the opponent to run into, in their hurry to stop having Pikmin assault them. Olimar is arguably the best shield-grabber in the game, with his grab range being fantastic on all Pikmin except Purples; the range is good enough to make up for the slight lag of the grab as opponents are occasionally too far away to take advantage of the grab attempt (unless they've [[sidestep]]ped). Olimar is excellent at popping the opponent into the air for aerial damage with his fast, deceptively-ranged (in front) up-smash, best performed with a Yellow Pikmin for max range. From there, he has a long-lasting up-air which serves as both a superb defence above him, as well as an excellent way to harass opponents returning to the ground, and it cancels quick enough to throw up another up-air, an up-smash, or a [[Pikmin Chain]] should they be more to the front of Olimar. Like {{SSBB|Falco}}, even good players can count on a good Olimar taking the first 50% or so of a stock without a problem, especially if down tilt, Olimar's best setup move regardless of percent, hits.
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 Olimar's not bad at KOs, either. Rarely can an opponent facing an Olimar predict which Pikmin is coming next, or how, so surprise Purple smashes or Red aerials can cause serious problems. Forward smash in particular is deadly, due to its range, power (especially with a Purple), and how difficult it is to punish, while a Purple up smash can KO in the 80%'s if fresh (while players would prefer to use the up smash early and often for spacing purposes, they will attempt to save it for surprise KOs in doubles). Blue Pikmin horizontal throws, along with Purple Pikmin vertical throws, are also cause for concern due to their KO'ing ability.
-Though he has significant strengths, he does have his drawbacks. If Olimar has no Pikmin in his lineup, none of his smashes, directional aerials, grabs, or damaging special moves have any effect, rendering the majority of his moveset unusable until he obtains Pikmin. This problem is heightened as Olimar loses all his Pikmin when he is KO'd, making him predictable for the first few seconds of every stock (save for the first) because most Olimar players will most likely use their [[invincibility frames]] for plucking Pikmin instead of attacking. All Pikmin (excluding Blue ones) drown in water deep enough to cover their whole body, which can make him vulnerable when fighting on stages such as [[Jungle Japes]] and [[Summit]]. As Olimar does not perform grabs himself, he does not gain launch resistance from them (only the grabbing Pikmin does) and so he cannot grab through opponents' attacks, unlike all other characters. He is also a very light and floaty character; his floatiness makes him easy  for most characters to juggle, especially since his aerials have unusual [[priority]] rules that hamper his ability to counter other aerials, and his neutral air (his only non-Pikmin air attack) is not designed for defense. His mobility is also slow, both in the air and on the ground. Olimar players must also learn what each Pikmin are capable of and must adapt to each one, especially in the middle of a fight - a careless or inattentive Olimar player may miss a sure KO if a Purple smash or grab is out of range or a White Pikmin is used to attack by mistake. Combined with needing to pay attention to Pikmin that do unexpected things due to randomness or glitches, this gives him an extremely high learning curve.
+Though he has significant strengths, he does have his drawbacks. If Olimar has no Pikmin in his lineup, none of his smashes, directional aerials, grabs, or damaging special moves have any effect, rendering the majority of his moveset unusable until he obtains Pikmin. This problem is heightened as Olimar loses all his Pikmin when he is KO'd, making him predictable for the first few seconds of every stock (save for the first) because most Olimar players will most likely use their [[invincibility frames]] for plucking Pikmin instead of attacking. All Pikmin (excluding Blue ones) drown in water deep enough to cover their whole body, which can make him vulnerable when fighting on stages such as [[Jungle Japes]] and [[Summit]]. As Olimar does not perform grabs himself, he does not gain armor from them (only the grabbing Pikmin does) and so he cannot grab through opponents' attacks, unlike all other characters. He is also a very light and floaty character; his floatiness makes him easy  for most characters to juggle, especially since his aerials have unusual [[priority]] rules that hamper his ability to counter other aerials, and his neutral air (his only non-Pikmin air attack) is not designed for defense. His mobility is also slow, both in the air and on the ground. Olimar players must also learn what each Pikmin are capable of and must adapt to each one, especially in the middle of a fight - a careless or inattentive Olimar player may miss a sure KO if a Purple smash or grab is out of range or a White Pikmin is used to attack by mistake. Combined with needing to pay attention to Pikmin that do unexpected things due to randomness or glitches, this gives him an extremely high learning curve.
 Olimar's biggest problem is his abysmal recovery. Although his double jump is decent, he has poor [[air speed]] and relies on a [[tether recovery]]. As a result, he is at the mercy of [[edge hogging]], and because the move puts him into the [[helpless]] state he must attempt to throw Pikmin to fend off an opponent trying to do so before he attempts to grab the edge - and since the length of his tether is based on how many Pikmin are in his line, this can make the problem worse by hurting how far away he can grab the edge from. It also means that, should the opponent manage to get Olimar down a few Pikmin, he will have much fewer options when put off the stage and have a good chance at being [[gimp]]ed (despite his slightly wider [[meteor cancel]] window). Olimar is also on the low end of the [[weight]] scale, which reduces the time needed for his recovery weakness to assert itself.
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 |dsname=Pikmin Order
 |dsdmg=0%
-|dsdesc=Olimar quickly blows his whistle, and a colored area surrounding him. Any Pikmin that are separated from Olimar will immediately fly to his side after a split second . This can be used to recall ones that have fallen behind or are pummeling an enemy, though Pikmin in the midst of some actions (such as travelling after being thrown) cannot be recalled. This moves gives Olimar [[super armor]].
+|dsdesc=Olimar quickly blows his whistle, and a colored area surrounding him. Any Pikmin that are separated from Olimar will immediately fly to his side after a split second . This can be used to recall ones that have fallen behind or are pummeling an enemy, though Pikmin in the midst of some actions (such as travelling after being thrown) cannot be recalled. This move gives Olimar [[armor]].
 |fsname=End of Day
 |fsdmg=10% (bury), 15% (ascent), 43% (Bulborbs), 10% (descent), 15%/20% (landing)