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#:'''Strong oppose''' After seeing Toast's relative failure in responding to my points of opposition, as well as his attempt to falsely enforce [[SW:NPA]] to discredit me rather than respond to my points, and his attempted censorship of my negative opinions of one's adminship abilities, I'm changing my oppose to a strong oppose. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | #:'''Strong oppose''' After seeing Toast's relative failure in responding to my points of opposition, as well as his attempt to falsely enforce [[SW:NPA]] to discredit me rather than respond to my points, and his attempted censorship of my negative opinions of one's adminship abilities, I'm changing my oppose to a strong oppose. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
#'''Status: Oppose''' A lack of admins you say? At this point, it's more like a lack of patience and an increase of paranoia within you. Do you truly believe that one admin can't handle the only threat that needs to be dealt with instantly, which are vandals? Do you really think that it is impossible to convince PoD to check on the Wiki? Janitorial admins are by far the most needless admins on this Wiki, especially without any vandal attack or proper reasoning to justify gaining adminship in order to deal with latter issues. The only thing users seeking a janitorial admin position have while requesting for adminship is an ability to stay on the Wiki for times slightly different than the community. Tell me, is it impossible to convince PoD to check the Wiki more often when he comes back from France? I highly doubt such a conversation is impossible. Janitorial admins do not necessarily have user dispute skills though, which is essential for admins to have. Are you telling me that the main provocation behind your sudden RfA is being able to handle a new user who is trying to insult other users out of boredom? I am afraid that you need much more than that to prove that you are something more than a janitorial admin on a Wiki with very little vandal attacks, especially if the new ''Super Smash Bros.'' is not to be released for a few years. When vandal attacks and the new Smash game is released, and the Wiki lacks enough admins to deal with those moments, feel free to RfA, but RfAs for janitorial positions are not meant to be done when nothing extremely negative has occurred on the Wiki. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 00:51, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | #'''Status: Oppose''' A lack of admins you say? At this point, it's more like a lack of patience and an increase of paranoia within you. Do you truly believe that one admin can't handle the only threat that needs to be dealt with instantly, which are vandals? Do you really think that it is impossible to convince PoD to check on the Wiki? Janitorial admins are by far the most needless admins on this Wiki, especially without any vandal attack or proper reasoning to justify gaining adminship in order to deal with latter issues. The only thing users seeking a janitorial admin position have while requesting for adminship is an ability to stay on the Wiki for times slightly different than the community. Tell me, is it impossible to convince PoD to check the Wiki more often when he comes back from France? I highly doubt such a conversation is impossible. Janitorial admins do not necessarily have user dispute skills though, which is essential for admins to have. Are you telling me that the main provocation behind your sudden RfA is being able to handle a new user who is trying to insult other users out of boredom? I am afraid that you need much more than that to prove that you are something more than a janitorial admin on a Wiki with very little vandal attacks, especially if the new ''Super Smash Bros.'' is not to be released for a few years. When vandal attacks and the new Smash game is released, and the Wiki lacks enough admins to deal with those moments, feel free to RfA, but RfAs for janitorial positions are not meant to be done when nothing extremely negative has occurred on the Wiki. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 00:51, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
#'''Change to strong oppose''' Sigh. These oppose reasons and comments influenced me. But honestly, I don't want an admin to falsely accuse another user of policy violation and attempt to censorship of their negative opinions of user's abilities. If you gonna falsely accusing me of policy violation, then go right ahead and do it to my face. And you say lack of admins? It's more like having a lack of patience and trying to go aggressive by throwing this RFA to gain a sysop before the new ''Super Smash Bros'' is released. I hate being harsh because your a nicest and friendly user, I'm still very opposed as your abilities as admin are questionable. Keep up the editing and working with the wiki and maybe you can request an RFA during when vandal attacks and the new ''Super Smash Bros'' is released. Fix any mistake what you should of done. It will take more guts to be a great candidate for RFA. However, right now this wiki has no need for janitorial sysop and more admins and it has very little to near non existent vandal attacks. It's very unlikely for you to deserve adminship in my eyes. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 21: | #'''Change to strong oppose''' Sigh. These oppose reasons and comments influenced me. But honestly, I don't want an admin to falsely accuse another user of policy violation and attempt to censorship of their negative opinions of user's abilities. If you gonna falsely accusing me of policy violation, then go right ahead and do it to my face. And you say lack of admins? It's more like having a lack of patience and trying to go aggressive by throwing this RFA to gain a sysop before the new ''Super Smash Bros'' is released. I hate being harsh because your a nicest and friendly user, I'm still very opposed as your abilities as admin are questionable. Keep up the editing and working with the wiki and maybe you can request an RFA during when vandal attacks and the new ''Super Smash Bros'' is released. Fix any mistake for what you should of done. It will take more guts to be a great candidate for RFA. You have to remember this if you want to be a sysop. However, right now this wiki has no need for janitorial sysop and more admins and it has very little to near non existent vandal attacks. It's very unlikely for you to deserve adminship in my eyes. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 21:56, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose:''' Redefining my definition of janitorial work, I see that the wiki really isn't in urgent need of such chores. Looking at the other opposing arguments and the comments below, I don't have much to add, but I must say, the heated moments in the debate, especially the use of logical fallacies to defend your points in the comments section sheds doubt on your ability to enforce policies, as well as how you will fare in disputes to come. I mean this in no way a personal attack; you're still one of the friendliest users I know, but looking at everything here, your qualities that merit adminship are overshadowed by qualities that make your ability to lead questionable.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 12:45, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | #'''Oppose:''' Redefining my definition of janitorial work, I see that the wiki really isn't in urgent need of such chores. Looking at the other opposing arguments and the comments below, I don't have much to add, but I must say, the heated moments in the debate, especially the use of logical fallacies to defend your points in the comments section sheds doubt on your ability to enforce policies, as well as how you will fare in disputes to come. I mean this in no way a personal attack; you're still one of the friendliest users I know, but looking at everything here, your qualities that merit adminship are overshadowed by qualities that make your ability to lead questionable.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 12:45, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose''': Although I might not agree with all of OT's statements in the argument below, I still think that your misconstruing of wiki policy in an attempt to stop the discussion shows poorly for your ability to handle admin powers. As an admin, you would have even more power and leverage regarding personal disputes and whatnot, and you have to give the impression that you can do the job responsibly. I don't have anything against you, personally, but adminship on any wiki is a big deal and I would have to actually actively support someone to give them my vote. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 13:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | #'''Oppose''': Although I might not agree with all of OT's statements in the argument below, I still think that your misconstruing of wiki policy in an attempt to stop the discussion shows poorly for your ability to handle admin powers. As an admin, you would have even more power and leverage regarding personal disputes and whatnot, and you have to give the impression that you can do the job responsibly. I don't have anything against you, personally, but adminship on any wiki is a big deal and I would have to actually actively support someone to give them my vote. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 13:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
