Cloud (SSB4)

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With the release of {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}, the subsequent nerfs to them and other top-tier characters, and various advancements to his metagame, Cloud became a very popular character in tournaments. His own nerfs did not seriously hinder him, and he remained a fundamentally strong character choice for both newer and professional players, the latter of which saw {{Sm|MkLeo}} formally picking him up. This was apparent with him appearing more frequently in the top placings of tournaments in comparison to some top-tier characters like {{SSB4|Sheik}} and {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, and consistently winning almost every major doubles event at tournaments. As a result of this spike in popularity and success, Cloud was ranked 2nd on the second tier list, placing him in the S tier; his tier rise was tied with {{SSB4|Palutena}}'s for the fifth highest between the first and second tier lists.

Despite his success, Cloud's placement initially received mixed thoughts from the community, as his rather exploitable weaknesses held him back from consistently achieving top 8 placings in singles for several national tournaments, such as {{Trn|EVO 2017}} (the highest ranking Cloud being komorikiri, who placed 17th) and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2016}} (the highest ranking solo Cloud being Tweek, who placed 13th). As his metagame progressed, however, Cloud's singles results became considerably more consistent, as players, especially MkLeo, Tweek, and komorikiri, started seeing more top 8 placements at national tournaments. Although Cloud would drop to 3rd place on the third tier list due to the rise of Bayonetta, his continued consistency would see him rise back to 2nd place on the fourth and final tier list.

Despite his success, Cloud's placement initially received mixed thoughts from the community, as his rather exploitable weaknesses held him back from consistently achieving top 8 placings in singles for several national tournaments, such as {{Trn|EVO 2017}} (the highest ranking Cloud being komorikiri, who placed 17th) and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2016}} (the highest ranking solo Cloud being Tweek, who placed 13th). As his metagame progressed, however, Cloud's singles results became considerably more consistent, as players, especially MkLeo, Tweek, and komorikiri, started seeing more top 8 placements at national tournaments. Although Cloud would drop to 3rd place on the third tier list due to the rise of Bayonetta, his continued consistency would see him rise back to 2nd/3rd place on the fourth and final tier list, tying him with {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}.

At the end of the game's main competitive lifespan, however, many players once again questioned Cloud's tier placement as his results as a solo main weren't as impressive compared to other characters such as ~~{{SSB4|~~Diddy Kong}}, {{SSB4|Sheik}}, {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, {{SSB4|Fox}}, and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}. Furthermore, several top players pointed out that top players were getting better at exploiting the character's poor recovery. Finally, MkLeo and Tweek, two of the best Cloud players in the world, started to use Bayonetta more frequently, leading to a small decline in representation at top level play. Due to all of this, a few players such as {{Sm|Mr.R}} and MkLeo claimed that Cloud is overrated and that he should be ranked slightly lower while other players claim that his polarizing strengths are too strong for him to be ranked any lower.

At the end of the game's main competitive lifespan, however, many players once again questioned Cloud's tier placement as his results as a solo main weren't as impressive compared to other characters such as Diddy Kong, {{SSB4|Sheik}}, {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, {{SSB4|Fox}}, and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}. Furthermore, several top players pointed out that top players were getting better at exploiting the character's poor recovery. Finally, MkLeo and Tweek, two of the best Cloud players in the world, started to use Bayonetta more frequently, leading to a small decline in representation at top level play. Due to all of this, a few players such as {{Sm|Mr.R}} and MkLeo claimed that Cloud is overrated and that he should be ranked slightly lower while other players claim that his polarizing strengths are too strong for him to be ranked any lower.

=====Banned in Doubles=====

In doubles, Cloud was considered by many players to be [[broken]] enough to ban, as he was banned at the above tournaments. Thanks to his many advantages, Cloud players consistently won ''Smash 4'' doubles tournaments after his release. This was evident with Cloud [https://intheloop837.wordpress.com/2018/04/09/data-cloud-in-doubles-an-analysis/ being more dominant than Meta Knight in ''Brawl'' singles].

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 With the release of {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}, the subsequent nerfs to them and other top-tier characters, and various advancements to his metagame, Cloud became a very popular character in tournaments. His own nerfs did not seriously hinder him, and he remained a fundamentally strong character choice for both newer and professional players, the latter of which saw {{Sm|MkLeo}} formally picking him up. This was apparent with him appearing more frequently in the top placings of tournaments in comparison to some top-tier characters like {{SSB4|Sheik}} and {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, and consistently winning almost every major doubles event at tournaments. As a result of this spike in popularity and success, Cloud was ranked 2nd on the second tier list, placing him in the S tier; his tier rise was tied with {{SSB4|Palutena}}'s for the fifth highest between the first and second tier lists.
-Despite his success, Cloud's placement initially received mixed thoughts from the community, as his rather exploitable weaknesses held him back from consistently achieving top 8 placings in singles for several national tournaments, such as {{Trn|EVO 2017}} (the highest ranking Cloud being komorikiri, who placed 17th) and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2016}} (the highest ranking solo Cloud being Tweek, who placed 13th). As his metagame progressed, however, Cloud's singles results became considerably more consistent, as players, especially MkLeo, Tweek, and komorikiri, started seeing more top 8 placements at national tournaments. Although Cloud would drop to 3rd place on the third tier list due to the rise of Bayonetta, his continued consistency would see him rise back to 2nd place on the fourth and final tier list.
+Despite his success, Cloud's placement initially received mixed thoughts from the community, as his rather exploitable weaknesses held him back from consistently achieving top 8 placings in singles for several national tournaments, such as {{Trn|EVO 2017}} (the highest ranking Cloud being komorikiri, who placed 17th) and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2016}} (the highest ranking solo Cloud being Tweek, who placed 13th). As his metagame progressed, however, Cloud's singles results became considerably more consistent, as players, especially MkLeo, Tweek, and komorikiri, started seeing more top 8 placements at national tournaments. Although Cloud would drop to 3rd place on the third tier list due to the rise of Bayonetta, his continued consistency would see him rise back to 2nd/3rd place on the fourth and final tier list, tying him with {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}.
-At the end of the game's main competitive lifespan, however, many players once again questioned Cloud's tier placement as his results as a solo main weren't as impressive compared to other characters such as {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}, {{SSB4|Sheik}}, {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, {{SSB4|Fox}}, and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}. Furthermore, several top players pointed out that top players were getting better at exploiting the character's poor recovery. Finally, MkLeo and Tweek, two of the best Cloud players in the world, started to use Bayonetta more frequently, leading to a small decline in representation at top level play. Due to all of this, a few players such as {{Sm|Mr.R}} and MkLeo claimed that Cloud is overrated and that he should be ranked slightly lower while other players claim that his polarizing strengths are too strong for him to be ranked any lower.
+At the end of the game's main competitive lifespan, however, many players once again questioned Cloud's tier placement as his results as a solo main weren't as impressive compared to other characters such as Diddy Kong, {{SSB4|Sheik}}, {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, {{SSB4|Fox}}, and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}. Furthermore, several top players pointed out that top players were getting better at exploiting the character's poor recovery. Finally, MkLeo and Tweek, two of the best Cloud players in the world, started to use Bayonetta more frequently, leading to a small decline in representation at top level play. Due to all of this, a few players such as {{Sm|Mr.R}} and MkLeo claimed that Cloud is overrated and that he should be ranked slightly lower while other players claim that his polarizing strengths are too strong for him to be ranked any lower.
 =====Banned in Doubles=====
 In doubles, Cloud was considered by many players to be [[broken]] enough to ban, as he was banned at the above tournaments. Thanks to his many advantages, Cloud players consistently won ''Smash 4'' doubles tournaments after his release. This was evident with Cloud [https://intheloop837.wordpress.com/2018/04/09/data-cloud-in-doubles-an-analysis/ being more dominant than Meta Knight in ''Brawl'' singles].