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:::"A lack of info is a terrible reason?" Are you kidding? There's too much of a reason to NOT believe it was real. I'm not convinced either way, but you're being a bit too optimistic here. Of course the story is believable, but for all we know it's just as likely a skilled, logical, think-it-through liar came up with this crap; and in case you didn't know about how this stuff works, hundreds of these text-based "leaks" appear on message boards every week, so as RSM stated a lucky guess is possible enough such that we can't dismiss the case one way or another. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 17:23, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
:::"A lack of info is a terrible reason?" Are you kidding? There's too much of a reason to NOT believe it was real. I'm not convinced either way, but you're being a bit too optimistic here. Of course the story is believable, but for all we know it's just as likely a skilled, logical, think-it-through liar came up with this crap; and in case you didn't know about how this stuff works, hundreds of these text-based "leaks" appear on message boards every week, so as RSM stated a lucky guess is possible enough such that we can't dismiss the case one way or another. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 17:23, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
::::If you and RSM are really that insistent that there is a possibility of this being a coincidence, the best compromise would be to keep the Sora leak/rumor on both pages in the same way Vergeben and Gemastu are. Putting it solely on the rumors page when the info is 100% correct just sounds asinine. Even then, I think putting it on the rumors page at all isn't a great idea when "widely considered to be a coincidence" is a total lie. I only see you and RSM calling it one; everywhere else I've seen post-reveal realizes that there is a much higher chance of it being legitimate. Pre-reveal, sure, it could be brushed off as a coincidence, but post-reveal, there's not enough evidence to suggest it's a coincidence. Most of the leaks on this page that aren't done by Nintendo are text-only (only exceptions I can think of are the ESRB leak and the 7-11 leaks), with the only difference between those and this being that they'd leak more characters, something that isn't possible with Sora being the last one. This is what I mean by a lack of info is a terrible reason to call it a coincidence; there's not much to go over to begin with. The universally accepted leaks that leaked actual movesets to my knowledge were the Piranha Plant leaks. While Sora's moveset wasn't leaked, I want to stress again that specifying that the music (Simple and Clean) was for the presentation instead of the game adds some credibility to the statement. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 18:44, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
::::If you and RSM are really that insistent that there is a possibility of this being a coincidence, the best compromise would be to keep the Sora leak/rumor on both pages in the same way Vergeben and Gemastu are. Putting it solely on the rumors page when the info is 100% correct just sounds asinine. Even then, I think putting it on the rumors page at all isn't a great idea when "widely considered to be a coincidence" is a total lie. I only see you and RSM calling it one; everywhere else I've seen post-reveal realizes that there is a much higher chance of it being legitimate. Pre-reveal, sure, it could be brushed off as a coincidence, but post-reveal, there's not enough evidence to suggest it's a coincidence. Most of the leaks on this page that aren't done by Nintendo are text-only (only exceptions I can think of are the ESRB leak and the 7-11 leaks), with the only difference between those and this being that they'd leak more characters, something that isn't possible with Sora being the last one. This is what I mean by a lack of info is a terrible reason to call it a coincidence; there's not much to go over to begin with. The universally accepted leaks that leaked actual movesets to my knowledge were the Piranha Plant leaks. While Sora's moveset wasn't leaked, I want to stress again that specifying that the music (Simple and Clean) was for the presentation instead of the game adds some credibility to the statement. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 18:44, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
In light of a chat with Omega Tyrant on the Discord server and [[Special:Diff/1623620|the description of this edit of his]], I hereby withdraw my case. Still split on the leak being real, but I do admit there were aspects of it that I wasn't considering in the middle of this debate. Although FYI, it should be noted that I and RSM are far from the only people who would prefer to treat the posts as indeterminate; you'll discover that on the [[SW:DISCORD|Discord server]]. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:07, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
In light of a chat with Omega Tyrant on the Discord server and [[Special:Diff/1623620|the description of this edit of his]], I hereby withdraw my case. Still split on the leak being real, but I do admit there were aspects of it that I wasn't considering in the middle of this debate. Although FYI, it should be noted that I and RSM are far from the only people who would prefer to treat the posts as indeterminate; you'll discover that on the [[SW:DISCORD|Discord server]]. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:07, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Chris Niosi Leak? ==
 
Chris Niosi was the initial voice of Male Byleth but was recast and patched out of both Fire Emblem Three Houses and Fire Emblem Heroes shortly after release as a result of violating his NDA (along with other allegations raised against him at the time). The comment that got Niosi fired was something along the lines of "I'm voicing a character who will end up in Smash Bros the game is coming out soon" Should this be taken as a legitimate leak or was this just wishful thinking on Niosi's part that ended up being true? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cBVHRhF3uLcNVZJ6B2s-kkrtrCRgLN9TJ5zs7nP4stk/edit [[User:Skibot99|Skibot99]] ([[User talk:Skibot99|talk]]) 15:36, January 18, 2023 (EST)