Forum:Tier list debate 2020: Part 1: Difference between revisions

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There is no "status quo" or "other" option. Make your stand. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 19:54, January 30, 2020 (EST)
There is no "status quo" or "other" option. Make your stand. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 19:54, January 30, 2020 (EST)
===Option 1: Hands-off===
===Option 1: Hands-off===
#'''Support?''' I agree with SpiritSobble, because I think that most people will be biased on their own or favorite players' opinion. But if we remove them, some people that want other opinions, as said in the description for option one, may be unhappy that we don't have tier lists, and that they may not think that this is a good wiki to get that information from, even though a tier list is not a fact, it is simply opinion. Please correct me if I'm wrong in any way, since I am still new to the wiki, and I know little about how this works. '''It's ya boi, [[User:KirboBoi64|KirboBoi]].''' ''[[User talk:KirboBoi64|<span style="color: #FDB0D4">Poyo</span>]]''. [[File:StarSign.png|16px]] 14:38, December 18, 2020 (EST)
#'''Support.''' Tier lists are extremely opinionated, and there is no definitive answer. The best idea is probably to let people decide for themselves. Of course there are people out there with different tier opinions than ours. We could just let the people go to the Smash player they trust or like most, and let them decide on their own, using the bias from someone else. [[User:SpiritSobble]]
#'''Support.''' Tier lists are extremely opinionated, and there is no definitive answer. The best idea is probably to let people decide for themselves. Of course there are people out there with different tier opinions than ours. We could just let the people go to the Smash player they trust or like most, and let them decide on their own, using the bias from someone else. [[User:SpiritSobble]]
#'''Support.''' Unless an official tier list that the majority agrees upon is released, it's better to keep tier placements general. This allows the best accuracy as tiers other than the top tier are often immensely different from one opinion to the next, especially with a roster as big as ''Ultimate''. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 20:02, January 30, 2020 (EST)
#'''Support.''' Unless an official tier list that the majority agrees upon is released, it's better to keep tier placements general. This allows the best accuracy as tiers other than the top tier are often immensely different from one opinion to the next, especially with a roster as big as ''Ultimate''. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 20:02, January 30, 2020 (EST)
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#'''Support'''. Tier lists are opinions, and opinions do not belong on a wiki. They never should have been here in the first place. [[User:Shadow2|Shadow2]] ([[User talk:Shadow2|talk]]) 22:04, October 23, 2020 (EDT)
#'''Support'''. Tier lists are opinions, and opinions do not belong on a wiki. They never should have been here in the first place. [[User:Shadow2|Shadow2]] ([[User talk:Shadow2|talk]]) 22:04, October 23, 2020 (EDT)
#'''Support'''. As above, tier lists are opinions, and an agrregation of opinions, even may be closer to objective truth, is still an opinion. You can never vote for the invalidation of a scientific fact and really forfeit it, anyway. [[User:Benzene114]]
#'''Support'''. As above, tier lists are opinions, and an agrregation of opinions, even may be closer to objective truth, is still an opinion. You can never vote for the invalidation of a scientific fact and really forfeit it, anyway. [[User:Benzene114]]
#'''Support?''' I agree with SpiritSobble, because I think that most people will be biased on their own or favorite players' opinion. But if we remove them, some people that want other opinions, as said in the description for option one, may be unhappy that we don't have tier lists, and that they may not think that this is a good wiki to get that information from, even though a tier list is not a fact, it is simply opinion. Please correct me if I'm wrong in any way, since I am still new to the wiki, and I know little about how this works. '''It's ya boi, [[User:KirboBoi64|KirboBoi]].''' ''[[User talk:KirboBoi64|<span style="color: #FDB0D4">Poyo</span>]]''. [[File:StarSign.png|16px]] 14:38, December 18, 2020 (EST)


===Option 2: New source===
===Option 2: New source===