Forum:Any other serious anti-tierists out there?

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I'm sick of the assumption that anyone who plays this game seriously actually believes that some characters are innately better than others. Not to mention the current tier list is a joke. To prove that fact, I will issue an open challenge to anyone who actually believes in tiers. Either we can play randoms, or I'll take it a step further and you can play as Metaknight (the supposed number one) and I'll play as Falcon (apparently the worst).

Tier lists are ridiculous and I've earned my salt in tournaments and league play by using many of the characters assumed to be of a lower calliber. Skill comes first people.

And I hope I'm not alone on this. I want to make the anti-tierist voice heard in the maintstream. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KnaveofHearts (talk • contribs) {{{2}}}

First, please after you are done, sign your comments with four tildes. I promise you, they won't bite.

As to your other comments...whew, I'm glad I got here first. I was afraid that I wouldn't get an opportunity to troll you! So here's how it's going down: I'm going to mock your position without actually arguing, and you are going to read this.

So, let's go through the points. Your position is:

• Ridiculous
• Ridiculous
• Ridiculous
• Ridiculous
• Ridiculous

And last but not least:

• Ridiculous

The treatise will address any of your substance. As for your challenge to play, the problem is that whether you can beat people with lower tiered characters or not isn't an argument. It doesn't prove anything. Sure, skill does come first. But tiers exist. Those are not mutually exclusive. See, I've earned my salt in tournaments and competitive play both with lower and higher tiered characters, so your point is useless. And please, before you come back, if you come back, read the treatise. Please. I wrote it for people like you. Run along now. Semicolon (talk) 22:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the tildes thing... And I did already read that treatise, in fact, it was most of the reason I posted what I did. It didn't convince me. It just seems silly that in a game, where many, many strategies have yet to be invented and seen, that people can rank each character in any kind of order. Yes, I can admit that there are some characters who are simply not that good when compared to others (so far anyway) and some matchups will favour certain characters, but it seems absurd to place these characters into tiers based on what? A few people (many of whom, the videos I've seen anway, are not even very good) winning with certain characters in tournaments? I firmly believe that a good player will make use of any character, against any character. In fact, I know that if someone were to play a higher tiered character, that they could be easily beaten by any character lower down the list. Until someone proves to me that this current tier list is valid, I will remain skeptical. KnaveofHearts (talk) 22:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

You "can admit that there are some characters who are simply not that good when compared to others"? Your skepticism is at odds with your rationalism. I suggest you employ both at the same time rather than exclusively. --Sky (t · c · w) 22:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)