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{{Template:Rfa close|failed|User withdrew due to RfA becoming stalemated, with clear lack of consensus. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Obfuscating 22:57, 15 September 2015 (EDT)}}
=== [[User:Serpent King|Serpent King]] ([[User talk:Serpent King|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Serpent King|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Serpent King|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Serpent King|RFA page]]) ===
=== [[User:Serpent King|Serpent King]] ([[User talk:Serpent King|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Serpent King|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Serpent King|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Serpent King|RFA page]]) ===
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>


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#Updated many, many links that were made out of date by the Classic mode, Master Hand, and Crazy Hand splits.
#Updated many, many links that were made out of date by the Classic mode, Master Hand, and Crazy Hand splits.
#Completed moveset tables for Melee characters.
#Completed moveset tables for Melee characters.
#Uploaded and included all Melee's English [[List of crowd cheers (SSBM)|crowd cheers]].
#Uploaded and included all Melee's English [[Crowd#Crowd_cheers_in_Super_Smash_Bros._Melee|crowd cheers]].


"That's great and all, but what do you plan to do with sysop powers?" you ask? Well...
"That's great and all, but what do you plan to do with sysop powers?" you ask? Well...
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#:Why thank you! [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 07:34, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:Why thank you! [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 07:34, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#You're highly active and very levelheaded and diplomatic, both very important traits for the role an admin has, IMO. I also believe that your intended usage of admin powers would be extremely helpful. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 09:20, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#You're highly active and very levelheaded and diplomatic, both very important traits for the role an admin has, IMO. I also believe that your intended usage of admin powers would be extremely helpful. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 09:20, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:To elaborate (because looking at my vote, it seems a tad vague), you tend to do a lot of janitorial work as far as a user can (i.e. Move drafts, Mark pages for speedy deletion, report vandals to a lesser degree). Thus, I think you'd use admin tools correctly, efficiently, and often. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: LawnGreen">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 15:55, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#You're a helpful guy, and your work on the debug menu pages was awesome. I feel you'd be able to ease into administration easily, being just as helpful yet better :) [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 18:46, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#You're a helpful guy, and your work on the debug menu pages was awesome. I feel you'd be able to ease into administration easily, being just as helpful yet better :) [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 18:46, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#Your edits are pretty impressive I must say. [[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 10:39, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#Your edits are pretty impressive I must say. [[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 10:39, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#You were a nice guy when I got here, you're a nice guy now. I feel like your edits speak for themselves here. I personally think you'll do great. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Little Mac|World Circuit]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 19:51, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#You were a nice guy when I got here, you're a nice guy now. I feel like your edits speak for themselves here. I personally think you'll do great. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Little Mac|World Circuit]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 19:51, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#The only thing going against you is that you haven't been here very long. But I don't feel that's a reason to prevent you from becoming an admin, since you've proven to be a very active and helpful user. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:{{NameToIcon|Ness}}Head{{#if:|{{{cl}}}}}{{#if:SSBB|{{#ifeq:SSBB|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBB}}}}.png{{#if:16px|{{!}}16px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Ness{{#if:SSBB|&#32;({{#switch:SSBB|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBB}})}}}}]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 11:02, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
#The only thing going against you is that you haven't been here very long. But I don't feel that's a reason to prevent you from becoming an admin, since you've proven to be a very active and helpful user. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Ness}}Head{{#if:|{{{cl}}}}}{{#if:SSBB|{{#ifeq:SSBB|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBB}}}}.png{{#if:16px|{{!}}16px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Ness{{#if:SSBB|&#32;({{#switch:SSBB|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBB}})}}}}]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 11:02, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
#This wiki could benefit from having a few more active admins in my opinion and you would be one of the best people for that. [[User:MarioIsTheBest|MarioIsTheBest]] ([[User talk:MarioIsTheBest|talk]]) 09:03, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#This wiki could benefit from having a few more active admins in my opinion and you would be one of the best people for that. [[User:MarioIsTheBest|MarioIsTheBest]] ([[User talk:MarioIsTheBest|talk]]) 09:03, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Strong support''' You have been around for a while, you are very willing to help, and you are very patient with other users. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 13:56, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#'''Strong support''' You have been around for a while, you are very willing to help, and you are very patient with other users. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 13:56, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
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==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
#'''Weak oppose:''' I'd rather wait 'til you have SSB4 - after all, it is the focus of 80% of the Wiki's active users. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 09:23, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Weak oppose:''' I'd rather wait 'til you have SSB4 - after all, it is the focus of 80% of the Wiki's active users. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 09:23, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I do not personally think this is a valid reason to oppose an RfA. Obviously having a game would help deal with misinformation, but only the blatant stuff tends to need admin intervention (vandals usually don't go for the subtle stuff), and research into the major SmashBoards topics is probably enough to cover the rest. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Free 10:58, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I do not personally think this is a valid reason to oppose an RfA. Obviously having a game would help deal with misinformation, but only the blatant stuff tends to need admin intervention (vandals usually don't go for the subtle stuff), and research into the major SmashBoards topics is probably enough to cover the rest. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Free 10:58, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:SSB4 is less than a 3rd of this wiki. Besides, I have enough to go on just based on our articles and my watching the competitive scene. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:07, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:SSB4 is less than a 3rd of this wiki. Besides, I have enough to go on just based on our articles and my watching the competitive scene. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:07, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I would say that Melee is perhaps the favorite Smash game for most SmashWikidians since 2014 despite Smash 4 being the thing as of right now, with Project M having a cult following on here as well. I'm more of a Brawl and Smash 4 person myself, and like Toomai and Serpent King said, not having Smash 4 isn't that big of a deal when it comes to getting adminship. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Restful 22:49, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I would say that Melee is perhaps the favorite Smash game for most SmashWikidians since 2014 despite Smash 4 being the thing as of right now, with Project M having a cult following on here as well. I'm more of a Brawl and Smash 4 person myself, and like Toomai and Serpent King said, not having Smash 4 isn't that big of a deal when it comes to getting adminship. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Restful 22:49, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
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#::Can you give me a reason? [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 17:47, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#::Can you give me a reason? [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 17:47, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#::: It's more of a "Whilst I'm quite sure this guy could become an admin, and a good one at that, there's not quite enough evidence for me to be 95% sure" sorta thing. If this RfA were to be passed, I'd have no qualms with it, it's just I don't think theres enough there for me to say "Beyond Reasonable Doubt", which is always a good standard to use. And since I'm not Scottish, I can't say "Not Proven" - It's either Guilty or Not Guilty, I'm afraid.Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 18:02, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#::: It's more of a "Whilst I'm quite sure this guy could become an admin, and a good one at that, there's not quite enough evidence for me to be 95% sure" sorta thing. If this RfA were to be passed, I'd have no qualms with it, it's just I don't think theres enough there for me to say "Beyond Reasonable Doubt", which is always a good standard to use. And since I'm not Scottish, I can't say "Not Proven" - It's either Guilty or Not Guilty, I'm afraid.Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 18:02, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
#I'm officially changing my vote to '''oppose''' on the grounds I listed on my previous vote under "neutral". You have presented basically nothing of relevance that adminship would do for you or for the site other than "I guess I could help". That's not enough, and upon further consideration I feel I have to adjust my vote as a result. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:13, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#:Well Miles, if you think about how unproductive or unhelpful other admins are to the wiki, like OT, Serpent King is eager to help, and unlike most users, he has a pleasant demeanor about helping. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 17:03, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#::10/10 bro. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Beagle 18:00, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#:::Well thanks, Dots. Speaking of which, Miles, you were not too productive on the Marth (SSB4) page, even if your intentions were good. Serpent King is maybe the closest thing we have to a productive potential admin, but Nyargleblargle is arguably better. I'm again, voicing the strong support I have. Miles, your intentions on the wiki are good, but don't be a hypocrite. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 18:07, 18 August 2015 (EDT)


==== Neutral ====
==== Neutral ====
#<s>'''Neutral.''' While you've more than proven yourself as a content editor, I've yet to really see anything resembling conflict resolution or user dispute handling from you, which is a necessity for an admin role. Furthermore, out of your posted reasons for wanting admin-level powers, you a) don't specify what MediaWiki things you'd actually want to change; b) give a generic statement about bans that doesn't really say much; and c) give a very minor reason in terms of page moves, which are easily done with a few extra steps yourself or with assistance from an existing admin. You haven't done anything to demonstrate that you would be a ''bad'' admin per se either, but that's not enough for me to feel like I can support your RfA at this time. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:47, 22 July 2015 (EDT)</s>
#'''Neutral.''' While you've more than proven yourself as a content editor, I've yet to really see anything resembling conflict resolution or user dispute handling from you, which is a necessity for an admin role. Furthermore, out of your posted reasons for wanting admin-level powers, you a) don't specify what MediaWiki things you'd actually want to change; b) give a generic statement about bans that doesn't really say much; and c) give a very minor reason in terms of page moves, which are easily done with a few extra steps yourself or with assistance from an existing admin. You haven't done anything to demonstrate that you would be a ''bad'' admin per se either, but that's not enough for me to feel like I can support your RfA at this time. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:47, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:For MediaWiki, I don't actually have anything in mind right at the moment. I only meant that my knowledge of CSS could be beneficial through MediaWiki. Should something go wrong, I'd be able to help fix/improve it. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 18:00, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:For MediaWiki, I don't actually have anything in mind right at the moment. I only meant that my knowledge of CSS could be beneficial through MediaWiki. Should something go wrong, I'd be able to help fix/improve it. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 18:00, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#::<s>That just sort of solidifies my initial point: you aren't demonstrating a clear reason why you should be admin yet, just vague "I guess I could help with this" kind of statements. You're a good contributor to the wiki, but that alone doesn't equate to readiness or need for adminship. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:14, 22 July 2015 (EDT)</s>
#::That just sort of solidifies my initial point: you aren't demonstrating a clear reason why you should be admin yet, just vague "I guess I could help with this" kind of statements. You're a good contributor to the wiki, but that alone doesn't equate to readiness or need for adminship. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:14, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral.''' You're arguably the two best non-admin users on this wiki so far this year along with Nyargleblargle and while I do think you and the latter have great adminship potential, I'm going to have to agree with Miles that you need to show dispute handling a bit more since basically every RfA on this wiki "needs" this quality. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Vampire Killer 11:16, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral.''' You're arguably the two best non-admin users on this wiki so far this year along with Nyargleblargle and while I do think you and the latter have great adminship potential, I'm going to have to agree with Miles that you need to show dispute handling a bit more since basically every RfA on this wiki "needs" this quality. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Vampire Killer 11:16, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#You're a great editor and you've helped a lot with some projects that people like me have been too lazy to continue with, and you seem to know what you're doing around here more than enough. You just haven't fully shown your need for admin powers, and you're a rather new user (logs say you joined four months ago), so you might want to give it a bit more time before requesting admin powers. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 14:54, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#You're a great editor and you've helped a lot with some projects that people like me have been too lazy to continue with, and you seem to know what you're doing around here more than enough. You just haven't fully shown your need for admin powers, and you're a rather new user (logs say you joined four months ago), so you might want to give it a bit more time before requesting admin powers. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 14:54, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral.''' This RfA reminds me of [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Toomai|my own first RfA]]: strong/knowledgeable mainspace editor, but stays out of disputes and doesn't truly show deservance of admin tools other than a "won't abuse them". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Interspacial 21:08, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral.''' This RfA reminds me of [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Toomai|my own first RfA]]: strong/knowledgeable mainspace editor, but stays out of disputes and doesn't truly show deservance of admin tools other than a "won't abuse them". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Interspacial 21:08, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I'm actually going to have to argue that every user on this wiki except for Omega Tyrant and Megatron1 actually have some difficulty with handling disputes. We're not that perfect at it. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Handy 21:13, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#:I'm actually going to have to argue that every user on this wiki except for Omega Tyrant and Megatron1 actually have some difficulty with handling disputes. We're not that perfect at it. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Handy 21:13, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#I personally don't see short track record as a legitimate reason to oppose an RfA (IIRC Omega Tyrant became an admin within less than 4 months of being a user); so long as the candidate is knowledgeable, competent, and willing to work with/against other users, track record is decidedly negligible, so I won't put that against you. What I will put against you however is why you need admin capabilities to handle disputes. [[User:Megatron1|Plenty]] [[User:Ac2k|of]] [[User:Monsieur Crow|"normal"]] [[User:1337 B33FC4K3|Wiki]] [[User:Timson622222|users]] have shown that they are willing to opine their points regardless of who they're arguing against (now admittedly, this may not be good for new Wiki users, but "new" doesn't always equate to inexperienced). Based on your responses the only thing I see adminship doing for you in the dispute area based on what you say is giving you the confidence to argue in the first place, and at that point you're abusing scare tactics, which is something I don't want in the administration.<br>Toomai and Miles pretty much said anything else I would have to say; you don't really pinpoint anything admin specific that you need (outside of a page moving gripe. I'm talking about stuff in regards to vandals and spam pages, you don't engage in a witch hunt for them. You say you will, but talk is cheap. Show us that you will, and most importantly prove that you won't abuse them.), and while you are one of the Wiki's best contributors, you really aren't as in touch with other users as admins should be. So overall, I'm '''neutral, leaning very slightly to support'''. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 12:16, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#I personally don't see short track record as a legitimate reason to oppose an RfA (IIRC Omega Tyrant became an admin within less than 4 months of being a user); so long as the candidate is knowledgeable, competent, and willing to work with/against other users, track record is decidedly negligible, so I won't put that against you. What I will put against you however is why you need admin capabilities to handle disputes. [[User:Megatron1|Plenty]] [[User:Ac2k|of]] [[User:Monsieur Crow|"normal"]] [[User:1337 B33FC4K3|Wiki]] [[User:Timson622222|users]] have shown that they are willing to opine their points regardless of who they're arguing against (now admittedly, this may not be good for new Wiki users, but "new" doesn't always equate to inexperienced). Based on your responses the only thing I see adminship doing for you in the dispute area based on what you say is giving you the confidence to argue in the first place, and at that point you're abusing scare tactics, which is something I don't want in the administration.<br>Toomai and Miles pretty much said anything else I would have to say; you don't really pinpoint anything admin specific that you need (outside of a page moving gripe. I'm talking about stuff in regards to vandals and spam pages, you don't engage in a witch hunt for them. You say you will, but talk is cheap. Show us that you will, and most importantly prove that you won't abuse them.), and while you are one of the Wiki's best contributors, you really aren't as in touch with other users as admins should be. So overall, I'm '''neutral, leaning very slightly to support'''. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 12:16, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
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#::I didn't mean to say you were abusing scare tactics, but rather that you seemingly would; to me, the comment "Truth is, I am never going to gain these (dispute) skills without being given this chance." reads as "I can't settle or partake in user disputes properly unless I become an admin and try it", implying that the only way you can be confident or competent enough to handle a dispute is by assuming the power of a higher up. Then hypothetically, you think you can force your opinion better on dissenting users because most users would (rather unfortunately) be inclined to listen to an admin than a "newbie". That seems a lot like swaying people with power in fear of being hurt; you scare them, ergo scare tactics. If it means something else, please enlighten me.<br>As for your second point...well, just don't be too condescending. Don't do stuff like warning blocks or page protections just because you are not fond of the way a user is doing something. If it is harmful to the Wiki that's another story. Just be reasonable and don't jump the gun in any disputes you happen to get into. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 19:54, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#::I didn't mean to say you were abusing scare tactics, but rather that you seemingly would; to me, the comment "Truth is, I am never going to gain these (dispute) skills without being given this chance." reads as "I can't settle or partake in user disputes properly unless I become an admin and try it", implying that the only way you can be confident or competent enough to handle a dispute is by assuming the power of a higher up. Then hypothetically, you think you can force your opinion better on dissenting users because most users would (rather unfortunately) be inclined to listen to an admin than a "newbie". That seems a lot like swaying people with power in fear of being hurt; you scare them, ergo scare tactics. If it means something else, please enlighten me.<br>As for your second point...well, just don't be too condescending. Don't do stuff like warning blocks or page protections just because you are not fond of the way a user is doing something. If it is harmful to the Wiki that's another story. Just be reasonable and don't jump the gun in any disputes you happen to get into. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 19:54, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#:::I must solidly disagree. Forcing my opinion is not really my thing. I will argue my case, of course, but I will never use my power in a way that implies "agree with me, or be banned". [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:09, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
#:::I must solidly disagree. Forcing my opinion is not really my thing. I will argue my case, of course, but I will never use my power in a way that implies "agree with me, or be banned". [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:09, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
#:::I'm with Serpent King. He is not condescending unlike Miles, OT, or Brian, and I know he wouldn't abuse his power. Also, Miles and Brian (mostly Miles) shove their opinions down our throats, so there is some hypocrisy there. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 17:14, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral''': I primarily say this because of a lack of true administration-worthy skills such as conflict resolution. You have done some spectacular things for the wiki in your time here, but you don't even have rollback and I can't see much in your logs that show you recognizing or dealing with vandals. If you show this, maybe I'll reconsider my vote if this is still open. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]All aircraft breakaway! 19:59, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral''': I primarily say this because of a lack of true administration-worthy skills such as conflict resolution. You have done some spectacular things for the wiki in your time here, but you don't even have rollback and I can't see much in your logs that show you recognizing or dealing with vandals. If you show this, maybe I'll reconsider my vote if this is still open. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]All aircraft breakaway! 19:59, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
#{{rollover|'''0%'''|Change to neutral|?}} Well time goes by and I'm starting to see that you're one of the best RFA candidate. I think you just need to show a bit more on disputes, although not everybody is perfect at this, and can be difficult. Your edits are mostly great. Great, helpful, and amiable editor. Nothing negative to say. You just need only one thing. You may also need to look at your weak points as an editor. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 20:18, 1 August 2015 (EDT)
#<span class="explain" title="Change to neutral">'''0%'''</span> Well time goes by and I'm starting to see that you're one of the best RFA candidate. I think you just need to show a bit more on disputes, although not everybody is perfect at this, and can be difficult. Your edits are mostly great. Great, helpful, and amiable editor. Nothing negative to say. You just need only one thing. You may also need to look at your weak points as an editor. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 20:18, 1 August 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral, leaning towards support''' - Based on my interactions with you and my observations on how you interact with others, you're generally a very helpful, impressionable, and amicable contributor to the wiki, and have dedicated a massive amount of time to improving pages and building on weak areas around the site. You've also made efforts to improve in areas where you previously lacked in, such as user disputes, which shows that you don't ignore feedback and are willing to improve. I still think you need a little more experience before I can move my vote to support, though. Keep it up! --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 18:00, 18 August 2015 (EDT)


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As it currently stands, we have a bunch of newer/inexperienced users in the support section (typical for most RfAs), a pair of opposes from older users (which in my opinion are weak at best), and all the "old hands" in the neutral section all essentially agreeing with me. Normally, by now I would have decided "maybe later, but not yet" and failed the RfA. The main reason I haven't is that we currently have two active staff members and [[Special:Statistics|440]] active users - that's 220 users per admin. Now obviously the rollbackers take some of this responsibility, but that's still really high. And conceptually, two people can't break ties, so having three might make discussions resolve better.
As it currently stands, we have a bunch of newer/inexperienced users in the support section (typical for most RfAs), a pair of opposes from older users (which in my opinion are weak at best), and all the "old hands" in the neutral section all essentially agreeing with me. Normally, by now I would have decided "maybe later, but not yet" and failed the RfA. The main reason I haven't is that we currently have two active staff members and [[Special:Statistics|440]] active users - that's 220 users per admin. Now obviously the rollbackers take some of this responsibility, but that's still really high. And conceptually, two people can't break ties, so having three might make discussions resolve better.


So yeah, I'm a bit stuck. It would benefit the wiki to have another active admin, but I don't want to lower the bar just to do so. I'll keep trying to come to a decision here; you guys can comment on this blurb if you want. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Jiggy 00:04, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
So yeah, I'm a bit stuck. It would benefit the wiki to have another active admin, but I don't want to lower the bar just to do so. I'll keep trying to come to a decision here; you guys can comment on this blurb if you want. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Jiggy 00:04, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:To keep it short and simple, I would say that Serpent King isn't ready to be an admin yet but I would like to wait for 6 months and he'll be likely. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Ocarina of Time 00:19, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:To keep it short and simple, I would say that Serpent King isn't ready to be an admin yet but I would like to wait for 6 months and he'll be likely. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Ocarina of Time 00:19, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:I'd like to weigh in and say that since the beginning of this RfA, I have been trying my absolute hardest to get some experience with user disputes, most notably with the whole [[Marth (SSB4)]] situation. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 00:36, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:I'd like to weigh in and say that since the beginning of this RfA, I have been trying my absolute hardest to get some experience with user disputes, most notably with the whole [[Marth (SSB4)]] situation. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 00:36, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:That mentality is a little concerning to me. Just because a user hasn't been around for a year doesn't mean that their opinion doesn't count as much. If the reasons aren't valid and don't address enough, that's a different thing entirely. [[SW:YAV]]. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: LawnGreen">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 15:51, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
Well, too late for the inb4. People are opposing just because of Serpent King's relative newcoming to the wiki. He may not be as experienced as Brian or Miles, but he isn't rude and his intentions are good. Also, he actually helps the wiki. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 17:09, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
:Ganonmew: That's not just experience. I'm kinda questioned about that. If I'm right, most candidates (including failed ones) that I saw, have some core problems that prevented them from being promoted to admin. I believe that some of admin's requirements (such as dispute handing) are either quite difficult, being questionable, or lackluster from other user's pov. Not everybody is perfect. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 17:26, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
It seems that how this is going so far, the supporting side argues that Serpent King will do just well enough as an admin regardless of how experienced he is or how well he does in disputes. The opposing side argues that he does not have enough experience while the neutral side is quite frankly not too sure about him being admin. Either way, SmashWiki RfAs are really tough like what Luigi540 said. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Mushroom 20:16, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
Do RfAs usually take this long? Here's the deal, me as a sysop will do the following things:
#The wiki gets vandal protection day and night (mostly night, but I do get on during the day too)
#I can help more with the maintenance tags that are spiraling out of control (move, delete, speedy delete, etc)
#Gives the wiki 3 admins, therefore always leaving one to break ties (as Toomai said)
#Gives the wiki an overall third hand with dealing with our massive userbase
I have gotten better at user disputes over the last month (yeah, I started this mid July!) and I believe I now show a need for sysop powers, especially in that I need to be able to deal with vandals overnight. Miles pops in every now and then, but that's not enough. I'm there almost every night, all night. I hope this changes things. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:01, 19 August 2015 (EDT)
I've just created a [[User:Serpent King/Contribs|running list]] of all my major contributions to the wiki. Thought it would help here. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 20:48, 23 August 2015 (EDT)
:These were pretty impressive contributions, but I'm not sure if that is proof that you can handle yourself as an admin. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The NES 15:54, 24 August 2015 (EDT)
::The idea was to show dedication through edit volume, and note that my edit count isn't just all minor stuff. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="font-family:Algerian"> <span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span><span style="font-size:12pt; color:black; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px Gray;">∞</span><span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 18:32, 1 September 2015 (EDT)
Alright. I give up. This RfA is 2 months old now, so clearly this is a stalemate. I officially '''withdraw''' this RfA. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="font-family:Algerian"> <span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span><span style="font-size:12pt; color:black; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px Gray;">∞</span><span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 04:14, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
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