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This is Zeldasmash's | This is Zeldasmash's and Doc King's opinions for the upcoming 10th SSBM Tier List. Doc King has recently discovered that the MBR is going to make a new and updated tier list [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwhAke296vc on a YouTube video.]So we would like you all to give your full opinions on the tier list, where someone should be, etc.<center> | ||
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!colspan="16"|10th [[SSBM]] Tiers | !colspan="16"|10th [[SSBM]] Tiers | ||
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!colspan="4" style="background-color:#ffbfbf"|Top Tier | !colspan="4" style="background-color:#ffbfbf"|Top Tier | ||
!colspan="5" style="background-color:#ffdfbf"|High Tier | !colspan="5" style="background-color:#ffdfbf"|High Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconSheik.png|40px|link=Sheik (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconFox.png|40px|link=Fox (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconFalco.png|40px|link=Falco (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconMarth.png|40px|link=Marth (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconCaptainFalcon.png|40px|link=Captain Falcon (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconSamus.png|40px|link=Samus (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconDoc.png|40px|link=Doc (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconGanondorf.png|40px|link=Ganondorf (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconLink.png|40px|link=Link (SSBM)]] | |||
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!colspan="8" style="background-color:#ffffbf"|Middle Tier | !colspan="8" style="background-color:#ffffbf"|Middle Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconMewtwo.png|40px|link=Mewtwo (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconMario.png|40px|link=Mario (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconIceClimbers.png|40px|link=Ice Climbers (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconPeach.png|40px|link=Peach (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconJigglypuff.png|40px|link=Jigglypuff (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconRoy.png|40px|link=Roy (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconDK.png|40px|link=Donkey Kong (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconYoungLink.png|40px|link=Young Link (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconGAW.png|40px|link=GAW (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconLuigi.png|40px|link=Luigi (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconZelda.png|40px|link=Zelda (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[Image:SSBMIconYoshi.png|40px|link=Yoshi (SSBM)]] | ||
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!colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfff"|Bottom Tier | !colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfff"|Bottom Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[Image:SSBMIconKirby.png|40px|link=Kirby (SSBM)]] | |||
|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[Image:SSBMIconBowser.png|40px|link=Bowser (SSBM)]] | |||
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==Videos== | ==Videos== | ||
Here are some videos that you can look at to make up your mind about the new tier list! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 01:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | Here are some videos that you can look at to make up your mind about the new tier list! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 01:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::No, his recovery may have a large amount of distance, but that doesn't make it good. He is incredibly slow while recovering, which, combined with his large size, makes him very easy to off-stage. Also, the teleporting is over rated. In any event, there are usually three directions that will flat out kill him, two more that set him up for being hit, one or two that accomplish nothing, and only one (maybe two) that give him some kind of advantage. So any good player will know where you are going even if they can't see Mewtwo's dodge animation. Oh, and since you seem to like videos, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPDvT_KRE4&feature=related here] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaC2PWfZJEg&feature=related are] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLiRBAKWEeU&feature=related some] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3bwu0dNCAU&feature=related more] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txM4ENohbmo&feature=related videos] for you to consider. Bear in mind that Taj is considered the best Mewtwo in the world. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:36, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ::No, his recovery may have a large amount of distance, but that doesn't make it good. He is incredibly slow while recovering, which, combined with his large size, makes him very easy to off-stage. Also, the teleporting is over rated. In any event, there are usually three directions that will flat out kill him, two more that set him up for being hit, one or two that accomplish nothing, and only one (maybe two) that give him some kind of advantage. So any good player will know where you are going even if they can't see Mewtwo's dodge animation. Oh, and since you seem to like videos, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPDvT_KRE4&feature=related here] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaC2PWfZJEg&feature=related are] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLiRBAKWEeU&feature=related some] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3bwu0dNCAU&feature=related more] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txM4ENohbmo&feature=related videos] for you to consider. Bear in mind that Taj is considered the best Mewtwo in the world. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 15:36, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Ok first of all, that was the worlds best Falcon (SS)! Second of all, it was pretty even and Mewtwo got some good combos on Falcon! Third of all, we didn't say Mewtwo was better than Falcon, we only said he should be in middle tier! And forth of all, even though Falco has really gimping problem, he is still considered good, when you guys argue over Mewtwo's weaknesses which aren't that much, so stop saying he sucks, because he doesn't, it's just your opinion! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 19:11, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | :Ok first of all, that was the worlds best Falcon (SS)! Second of all, it was pretty even and Mewtwo got some good combos on Falcon! Third of all, we didn't say Mewtwo was better than Falcon, we only said he should be in middle tier! And forth of all, even though Falco has really gimping problem, he is still considered good, when you guys argue over Mewtwo's weaknesses which aren't that much, so stop saying he sucks, because he doesn't, it's just your opinion! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 19:11, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Peach== | ==Peach== | ||
Serously? She was top tier and you lowered her to mid tier. Before, she was best Mario character, and you put Mario and Dr. Mario ahead of her. You guys aren't realizing what she can do and think her weaknesses are major, but they aren't, kay?--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:03, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | Serously? She was top tier and you lowered her to mid tier. Before, she was best Mario character, and you put Mario and Dr. Mario ahead of her. You guys aren't realizing what she can do and think her weaknesses are major, but they aren't, kay?--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:03, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:We don't think that the weaknesses are major. We just think that the weaknesses are a little big for a high tier, thats all. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 15:43, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | :We don't think that the weaknesses are major. We just think that the weaknesses are a little big for a high tier, thats all. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 15:43, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||