Editing Forum:Why do Yoshi and Jigglypuff not have a true up-B?

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Hi hi. Just thinking why Yoshi and Jigglypuff have no true up-B

:Those two, along with Ness, Lucas and Kirby, all have significant jumping abilities. Therefore, giving them even more recovery would make them cheap. Instead, they were all given a variety of Up Specials to fill the final attack spot but not make them unfair. Although PK Thunder 2 can be used for extra recovery, this requires skill. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
::Wrong. First of all, there is no "cheap" or unfair character, only a "cheap" player. Yoshi's been on the bottom of the tier list because he has no third jump, and his second jump only barely  makes up for it. Secondly, what could Jigglypuff do as a recovery? She can't just up and learn another made-up attack like [[puff up]], so there really is no need to complain. Third, Kirby ''does'' have a third jump, which is why he's usually placed high. Sorry for bringing tiers into this, but I'm just saying. Fourth, PK thunder 2 requires no skill whatsoever; why did you even say that? Unless you can't use the control stick properly, there shouldn't be any problems performing this technique. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 16:46, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::Ness and Lucas? They don't really jump any better than the others, and their Up Special still gives quite a bit of ditsance... - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 17:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


Jigglypuff already has one of the best recoveries in the game, all thanks to [[rising pound]].  So, would you still want to give Jigglypuff an additional jump?  [[User:Y462|Y462]] <small>([[User talk:Y462|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Y462|C]]  • [[Special:Editcount/Y462|E]] )</small> 14:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I can undestand Yoshi, but it's odd that Jigglypuff doesn't while Kirby does, given that they jump almost the same. - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 17:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually Gargomon, there is a difference between their two jumping abilities. Kirby's multiple jumps give him a lot of vertical (that's up and/or down) distance. In comparison to Jigglypuff, whose multiple jumps are low in vertical distance. Jigglypuff can move fast horizontally (that's left or right) in the air. In conclusion, Kirby is better at vertical recoveries and Jigglypuff is better at horizontal recoveries. They're different. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:pink">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:pink">'''777'''</span>]] 19:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, and Kirby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jigglypuff. :p <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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 Actually Gargomon, there is a difference between their two jumping abilities. Kirby's multiple jumps give him a lot of vertical (that's up and/or down) distance. In comparison to Jigglypuff, whose multiple jumps are low in vertical distance. Jigglypuff can move fast horizontally (that's left or right) in the air. In conclusion, Kirby is better at vertical recoveries and Jigglypuff is better at horizontal recoveries. They're different. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:pink">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:pink">'''777'''</span>]] 19:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-:Then why does kirby get EVEN MORE vertical advantage? - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 20:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 :Oh, and Kirby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jigglypuff. :p <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-::I see me trollin[http://macrochan.org/get.py?sha1=H3M5YPUYVPQAMLJUXB4BKQTX2ZP463MI] - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 20:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-:::Fixed. Just because two smart users disagree with you doesn't mean they're trolls. Get over yourself plz. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 21:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-Because they don't need them. Well, at least Jiggs doesn't need one.[[User:E123Brawler|'''<font color="Red">E123</font>''']][[User talk:E123Brawler|'''<font color="Black">Brawler</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/E123Brawler|'''<font color="Red">Ω</font>''']] 21:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
-Well actually, Yoshi's up B does give him some verticle distance, which actually does make a difference because it has saved me before. [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] ([[User talk:Learner4|talk]]) 00:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
-Yes it does. I found that out yesterday. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:silver">'''777 ~Behold! -.-'''</span>]] 13:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
-They should give Yoshi a true 2nd jump and make FLutter his Up-B. Egg Throw isn't that efficient anyways.[[User:King KirbyD|King KirbyD]] ([[User talk:King KirbyD|talk]]) 16:41, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
-:Three year old forum, again avoid posting on old forums that don't have relevance. Also, Egg Throw is vital to Yoshi's competitive metagame, and removing it to give Yoshi a move that is essentially a glorified midair jump, would harm him greatly. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:29, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
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