Editing Forum:Who do you wanna see in Smash 4 (or beyond)

Brawl 4 is supposed to come out some time in the future, I don't really know. But that's not what this is about anyways, so who cares? Hey, depending on when you're reading this, it may have already been released! But again, that's not what this is for, so who really cares?
ANYWAY, in case the forum title didn't give it away, this page is all about who YOU wanna see in Brawl 4, or 7, or whatever Smash game they're developing when you visit this page. Now, down to buisness!

Personally, I'd like to see Shadow the Hedgehog. I would like it though if they took more inspiration for his attacks, etc. from the game [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_the_Hedgehog_(video_game) Shadow the Hedgehog]. What are your opinions on this? [[User:LucariOWNED|LucariOWNED]] ([[User talk:LucariOWNED|talk]]) 07:19, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
:If you would like to submit a list of characters you would like to see, you can do so [[User:Omega Tyrant/The Smash 4 Character Prediction Game|here]]. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 08:40, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
::I thought that was a prediction game? [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font><font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font><font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] 08:40, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
::I'll check and try that out. This page will stay up, though. Thanks. [[User:LucariOWNED|LucariOWNED]] ([[User talk:LucariOWNED|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2013 (EDT)

The fourth game is not called "Brawl 4"; Brawl is the subtitle of the third game, not the name of the series. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:55, 4 August 2013 (EDT)

Regarding the prediction game, the object is to predict '''who you think will be in''', not ''who you want to be in''. You could technically pick who you want to be in, though if you do so you are pretty much guaranteed to score low. 

Also regarding the OP's choice of a character, I think Shadow would be a terrible admission. He's essentially "Dark Sonic" in concept, and "Dark X" is a terrible concept for a separate character to include in a fighting game. Additionally, while normally I think "X would just be a clone of Y!" is terrible reasoning to exclude a character, I think it really does apply here to a degree, since Shadow's design and abilities are near identical to Sonic's (again, essentially being "Dark Sonic"). And I think if they were to add another Sonic character or two to the playable roster, Tails and Knuckles are much better choices; their popularity are comparable, their designs and abilities are more different from Sonic's, and they are more significant, especially to Nintendo (they were there during the Genesis days and were the characters paired with Sonic in dream fights with the Mario Bros., not Shadow). Keep Shadow as an assist trophy and maybe add a palette swap to Sonic to make him look like Shadow (like Captain Falcon with Blood Falcon), don't add him as a playable character. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:37, 4 August 2013 (EDT)

Zoroark is most likely coming in the new game. Or Mewthree, possibly. Whichever generation Nintendo wants to use.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png]] 14:40, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

I think Zoroark is last month's flavor, his popularity in the Pokemon fanbase faded quickly and more people are now petitioning for Mewtwo. Shadow the Hedgehog is just a big no, plain and simple. As for who I think will be in, I'm going for a mix of retro and modern Nintendo characters like Takamaru, Little Mac, Mach Rider, Duck Hunt Dog and Duck, Dillon, Shulk, and Wonder Red. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 18:20, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
:I think that's a legit point about Zoroark, as its popularity didn't quite stick around and blew up as much as Lucario's. However, I still think it has a good chance of making it in, since it's still one of the more popular and recognisable pokemon, has a design that can fit well into Smash, and the lack of other viable pokemon (for arguably Nintendo's biggest series today) combined with the likely removal of the Pokemon Trainer. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:59, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

::Personally, I wouldn't mind Zoroark, but I'd rather see Genesect if we get a Gen 5 poster boy. He's relatively popular and a bit more new (He was an event Pokemon, I believe) and has a movie coming up with Mewtwo. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 00:04, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Genesect isn't that popular really, much less so than other Pokemon that are viable (like the aforementioned Zoroark). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:09, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

Groose. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 07:05, 7 August 2013 (EDT)

Mr. Game & Watch would be nice, but if he's in it, I'm not surprised. Mr. Game & Watch is one of my best characters in brawl, so I hope that he doesn't get nerfed if he DOES appear. But since MG & W has been a veteran since Melee, and that he's a classic, he would most likely return. --[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 14:50, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

[[Category:Smash 4 Talk]]

Bowser Jr is really the only character I want to see in the game. Anyone else is just a treat for me as all of the best Nintendo and third party characters I think have already been picked in the past three games. --[[User:Yoponot|Water, Earth, Fire, Air]] ([[User talk:Yoponot|talk]]) 12:05, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

I really want MEWTWO to return with MEGA evolution :P --Reshiram [[File:Reshiram 1105.png|16px]] 20:53, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:That can happen... we just got to wait. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Smasher 21:11, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

Even though I know it won't happen, King K. Rool and Krystal would be great characters in this game. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 22:09, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:I suppose that they are quite popular within the fanbase wise but they are probably not famous Nintendo characters. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Smasher 23:16, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
::That only applies to Krystal, really. K. Rool is actually about as famous as Diddy Kong is, yet we haven't seen head or hair of him as a character. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 23:33, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
::Actually, now that I think about it, Sakurai is missing out on some serious opportunities. Just think of the movesets for these characters. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 23:41, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Since the Donkey Kong Country franchise was pretty popular back in the 90s, yeah, I would personally think King K. Rool has a chance of returning, I'm not sure how his popularity is doing within this generation however. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Star Fox 23:45, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
::::That would be Retro Studios' fault. They not only did took the Kremlings and other Kongs out of the series, but they joked about it in a way that showed they didn't care about the older fans. Seeing as Miyamoto had an influence on the development of their games, I have a feeling I know who is responsible for all of this. Just listen to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKSNnkIyBN4 I don't fully agree with him, but he has a point. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 23:53, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
::::Isn't anyone going to comment on this? --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 00:07, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

Much as I'd love to have Groose or Mark Evans, I have a character with a realistic chance of being included... and a realistic chance of being cut. R.O.B. is widely considered boring, and the Robot universe is easily the least important in ''Smash''. I was over the moon when Toon Link got in ''Smash 4'', so why did I have to pick a different main who will get cut instead? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 06:36, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
:R.O.B.'s not going to get cut because he's unique (hell, even those bad "leaks" on SWF say R.O.B. is going to return) and very significant to the Nintendo universe and gaming in general (moreso than uninteresting characters like the Chorus Men or Shulk) because of his "Trojan horse" role during the 1983 video game crash. R.O.B. isn't even considered boring, and has a lot of devoted mains to show for it. As an accessory, R.O.B. is still a popular collectible and has tons of value. Furthermore I don't think it will do any good to talk about cuts considering the only character in danger of being cut is Snake, and that's mostly because Sakurai hasn't expressed interest in him returning and there haven't been any efforts by Kojima to familiarize the Metal Gear franchise with Nintendo fans. There were a lot of Super Smash Bros. "fans" that erroneously predicted Olimar, Ike, and even Yoshi getting the axe and were all painfully wrong. That said, I think it's better to keep the discussion geared towards possible newcomers because stupid newcomer predictions are infinitely more redeemable and valid than stupid removal predictions.
:As for King K. Rool, I think he has a shot. He's still a significant character even if Nintendo is [intentionally] ignoring him. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 11:50, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
Intentionally is practically an understatement. Miyamoto's moral ambiguity is questionable, specifically when Star Fox and Donkey Kong are called into question. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 13:50, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

I want Snake to return. :p --[[User:Newraptor|Newraptor]] ([[User talk:Newraptor|talk]]) 14:04, 28 May 2014 (EDT)
:As much as I wanna see snake, I doubt that he'll return. :([[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 21:15, 30 May 2014 (EDT)

I think Ninty is going to go for a mix of retro fighters (Excite Bikie, Urban Champion, Balloon Fighter, Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)) and modern fighters (Shulk) and unique quirky fighters (eShop Bag, Nintendo Budgie). And to represent Nintendo's dark side, the main character of Eternal Darkness, Alexandra Roivas. [[User:Harro|👾Harro👾]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 04:07, 26 July 2014 (EDT)

...[[Ridley]].  I really don't care what else gets added to the new ''Super Smash Bros.'' post-release, Ridley needs to be included at some point.  It really makes no sense to me why he isn't playable, and I HAVE seen pretty much every argument against him.  I guess there's always hope for ''Super Smash Bros. 6'' (since ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Wii U]]'' will technically be the fifth installment), but honestly, I don't want to have to wait that long for a character who should have been there since ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee|Melee]]'', or ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|Brawl]]'' at the very least (similar to my thoughts on [[Wario]] and [[King Dedede]])!  Sure, I'd like to see [[Mewtwo]] playable again, and I have several other characters I'd to see other newcomers playable, but Ridley is the only one I consider a requirement by this point. - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 10:05, 15 September 2014 (EDT)
:I would like Ridley as well. I would also like every cut character to return (including but not limited to Ice Climbers, Ivysaur, and Pichu), despite being very unlikely (except for maybe the Ice Climbers and Mewtwo). {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 13:33, 15 September 2014 (EDT)
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