Editing Forum:What to do with pages about cloned and similar special moves
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::::::What you can probably infer from this is that you can't always rely on names. That's the problem with the criteria you have presented. Logically both of these hypothetical situations would be a pickle with a criteria completely fixated on names. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 16:42, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | ::::::What you can probably infer from this is that you can't always rely on names. That's the problem with the criteria you have presented. Logically both of these hypothetical situations would be a pickle with a criteria completely fixated on names. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 16:42, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::::::The problem is that then you have messy situations of "move with similar or identical function but different name" that have no business being together on the same page. Yoshi Bomb and Bowser Bomb both have the same trajectory and a similar effect, but have separate names and origins and are used by different characters. Drawing the line at "functions similarly" is ambiguous. And right now we do have a few instances of "same name, separate page" for moves that have absolutely nothing to do with each other in function, history or character, like [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]]/[[Thunder (Robin)|Thunder]] and [[Bomb (Link)|Bomb]]/[[Bomb (Samus)|Bomb]]. Names are not an absolute grounds for splitting or merging on their own, but they are important. In your hypothetical, Vex would have its own page and the two BC moves would be separate, like Thunder and Bomb. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:03, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | :::::::The problem is that then you have messy situations of "move with similar or identical function but different name" that have no business being together on the same page. Yoshi Bomb and Bowser Bomb both have the same trajectory and a similar effect, but have separate names and origins and are used by different characters. Drawing the line at "functions similarly" is ambiguous. And right now we do have a few instances of "same name, separate page" for moves that have absolutely nothing to do with each other in function, history or character, like [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]]/[[Thunder (Robin)|Thunder]] and [[Bomb (Link)|Bomb]]/[[Bomb (Samus)|Bomb]]. Names are not an absolute grounds for splitting or merging on their own, but they are important. In your hypothetical, Vex would have its own page and the two BC moves would be separate, like Thunder and Bomb. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:03, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::::::I knew you were going to say something like that. That's all irrelevant because we're talking about clones, as in character clones | ::::::::I knew you were going to say something like that. That's all irrelevant because we're talking about clones, as in character clones, and their moves. | ||
::::::::In my hypothetical situation, yes, Discombobulation and Vex, despite behaving completely identically between two clones, will be separated into two pages. And both Booty Crushes, despite behaving completely differently between two clones, will be on the same page, which highlights the problem of basing this all mainly on names. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:11, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | ::::::::In my hypothetical situation, yes, Discombobulation and Vex, despite behaving completely identically between two clones, will be separated into two pages. And both Booty Crushes, despite behaving completely differently between two clones, will be on the same page, which highlights the problem of basing this all mainly on names. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:11, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
Falco Phantasm and Agility are different moves completely [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Team Liquid 14:18, 13 April 2016 (EDT) | Falco Phantasm and Agility are different moves completely [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Team Liquid 14:18, 13 April 2016 (EDT) |