Editing Forum:Wanted game assets

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Hey guys. So you may know that me and [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] recently finished (or as close as we are going to get for the moment) getting various assets and screenshots prepared for all character pages in all games. What I wanted to ask you guys is this: should we have something we don't? I am going to put a few suggestions for you guys to vote on below, but if you guys think of something that I didn't, feel free to add another. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:40, 21 December 2015 (EST)

===Narrator chants for each character===
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The narration that plays when you select a character.

#I think this would be a good idea, and was actually something I felt should've been there ever since I joined the wiki. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#I could see some value in documenting this. As a side note, do we already have ''Brawl'''s Wiimote noises that go with these? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#:Yes we do. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support'''. Seems like a good idea. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#Ehhh, less useful than crowd chants and selection sounds. It's just the announcer saying things, we're not supposed to keep a huge list of his quotes around. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

===All-Star portraits===
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Portraits used to tell the player who they'll be battling next in All-Star mode.

#'''Support'''. I like anything that shows images of characters :P That, and I think this would be a nice addition. If not for every character, one or two to be used as an example on the All-Star mode pages. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Oppose''' Upon consideration, this does seem like pointless bloat. Not really needed IMO. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:17, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#I said this on IRC once - anything that's just a different crop of existing official art is probably pointless. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

===Pokémon cries===
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Cries heard when releasing a Pokémon.

#I personally think that we should do this, and maybe even include the updated cries that they did for Gen VI (albeit Greninja for obvious reasons). We could also give the summon Pokémon this treatment too. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' Summon Pokémon only; unneeded for the entrance animations IMO. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' Like Nyargle said, summons only. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#:Wait, is this for the sounds heard in Smash, or the sounds heard in the original Pokemon games? Because we definitely don't need the ones from the Pokemon games. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:18, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#::Smash. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:19, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#:::Okay, good. Then yeah, I support. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:20, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#There might be a few of interest, but in general I don't really see a purpose to this. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

===Controller icons from ''Brawl''===
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From the button config menu, could be used in our button nav template.

#Might as well use the official ones. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' Definitely should use official ones when possible. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#:By the way, [[:File:Brawl_Icons_Files.png|this]] is what I have to work with here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:22, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#Impossible-to-overcome inconsistency with all other button icons. Absolutely never going to happen. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#:Could it be acceptable to at least upload the controller icons themselves (not the buttons)? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:36, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#::For what purpose? What would they accomplish that we're currently missing? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spark 14:42, 22 December 2015 (EST)

===Masterpiece icons===
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Preview shots from masterpieces.

#'''Support''' Might be worth putting on the Masterpiece pages. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:06, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#Per DF. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' Absolutely a great idea. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#Could have merit I suppose, if it's not just reused title screen/box art. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Ok so I got the SSB4 masterpiece previews done and uploaded, I just have to get the Brawl ones done. Coming soon! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 03:01, 24 January 2016 (EST)

===''Subspace Emissary'' preview icons===
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Preview icons for each stage in ''Subspace Emissary''.

#We should use stage preview icons wherever we can't get an image without players at native resolution. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:#090">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: #f00;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Neutral to oppose''': Seems like overkill to me, but I figured I'd bring it up anyway. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:23, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' Sounds useful. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
#Same priority as event match icons really: okay, but not mandatory. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Coming soon! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 03:01, 24 January 2016 (EST)

===Smash Tour Character voice clips===
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Smash Tour fighter collection voice clips for each character.

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Can I hard oppose most of these? We're not VG Resource and shouldn't be trying to dump copious file rips on every possible page. I think the question to ask before adding anything like these is "how much does the article really ''need'' this?" For example, [[Announcer#Audio comparison]] is a useful point of comparison and necessary since text descriptions don't cover audio comparisons well. However, I would strongly oppose adding a full list of all of those types of clips. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:39, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:Well the only ones I ''really'' have my heart set on are the Pokemon cries and narrator names. I want (most) of the rest, but I would be highly disappointed if I couldn't included those 2. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::I think anything that shows more about the subject is relevant, and most of this would. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  19:59, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:::We really have absolutely no reason to have sound clips for the Poke Ball Pokemon. Whatsoever. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:00, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::Except it's relevant to our series. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:02, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:::::We don't include general sound clips for playable characters (and shouldn't); I fail to see why we would want that for summons. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:04, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::::Why wouldn't we? The Pokemon pages are mostly lacking in media anyway, what's wrong with adding a little more? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:08, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::Lack of need; seems like general page-content bloat of negligible added value. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:11, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::::::I don't see a reason why we ''shouldn{{'}}t'', though? Like, it adds information ("what does the cry sound like?" "oh okay") but doesn't remove anything or make it worse? Even if it's pointless information, there's no such thing as bad expansion. (I mean, unless it's vandalism, or false... But besides that, no such thing as bad expansion.) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  23:16, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::::::I can see we are not going to agree on this one, so let's hear what the others have to say. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:18, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:::::::::Am I not an others? D: <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  23:19, 21 December 2015 (EST)

You are, but I meant more "others" 3-1 on most of these isn't exactly consensus. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:23, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:Fair point. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  23:28, 21 December 2015 (EST)

I agree that we shouldn't have exhaustive rips of every single thing that's relevant to a page's subject; we're about information, not a source of game files, and I don't really see how a bunch of sound clips is helpful there. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)
:I'm still not seeing where having the Pokemon cries would be pointless. I don't see where it's a bad thing to have a piece of media on otherwise almost bare-text pages. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:35, 22 December 2015 (EST)
::We don't fill in the "notable players" sections of character pages just to stop them from looking empty. Files have to have a purpose, and if the only purpose is "so we have them", that's kind of veering out of "fair use" territory. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spark 14:42, 22 December 2015 (EST)

'''Global oppose''' on everything (with the possible, debatable exception of SSE previews) per Miles and Toomai, especially with respect to soundbites as I don't feel they serve any truly useful role: in my view (as a regular user with no wiki position) pages should be mainly about how things work, and sounds have a negligible part in it. Also echoing Toomai's doubts about fair use. --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 06:56, 23 December 2015 (EST)

==Comments==
So as it stands, I am currently leaning towards a yes on narrator names, no on All-Star portraits, yes on Pokemon cries, yes on controller icons, yes on masterpiece icons, and neutral on SSE preview icons. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:15, 22 December 2015 (EST)
:So now I am thinking of doing only masterpiece icons and SSE previews. All other stuff seems to lack support. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:08, 2 January 2016 (EST)
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