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I just got this idea.  What if the people here could vote on what the perfect Smash Bros. character would be like.  For clarification, here's how it would work:

1. I would select a certain move (F-Air, for example).

2. I would create a poll and give everyone a few choices on who has the best one (in the example, I may put Marth, Meta Knight, Captain Falcon, etc.)

3. Whichever character's attack gets 15 votes first or leads for a week will (unofficially) have the strongest attack in that category!

4. <s>Profit!</s> We would then have a general consensus of what the perfect character would be like.
:Please give me your opinions!  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 18:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hmmm.... ==

This is a pretty good idea, but what if the character's (example) F-Air wasn't in the poll?  For instance, I might like Ness's F-Air, but if it's not in the poll, there might be some serious disagreements between people.  I might be completely wrong about this, but just wanna throw that out there...[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 19:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


It's Johnny Xtreme, end of story.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 19:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


Lol, Johnny. Maybe we could vote any character? Might get too big though.

Too answer Fried Beef (note: nice username : ) I would allow people, if they disagree with my choices for the attack (usually 5-7), and they give me some good reasons why their character should be on the list, to get me to edit the list of available character's attacks.  Johnny Xtreme?  No way.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]'''`

:Cheez, I like what you're thinking.  And by the way, Captain Falcon's knee is the best F-air. End of story. {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 20:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Yay or Nay ==

It sounds like people are liking the idea, so I will make it official!  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 20:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Idea on how to run it==
I think this could be done by type of move, like "best strong meteor smash" (Not the crap ones like Fox's d-air, the strong ones like Zelda's d-air, Ganon's d-air, Marth's d-air); "best f-air killer" (Peach's, Zelda's, C.Falcon's); "best item reflector" (Pit's Mirror, Fox/Wolf's reflector, Zelda's nayru's love); "best counter" (Marth/Ike/Peach/Lucario), and so on. Then we could merge the results (somehow, I still haven't gotten that far :P ), and there we go. It's a lot easier than listing every character's moves and doing a vote to see which is best >.>   --[[User:Shadowcrest|<font face="vivaldi" size="3" color="Steelblue">Shadowcrest</font>]] 21:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:I think a better way would be to pick maybe three or four per category, like Cheezperson said at the top. Example: F-air: Marth, Captain Falcon or Donkey Kong? etc. {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 21:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::I'm gonna run it like I said at the top of the page.  About 5 or so selections per round.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 21:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Where? Here? Your userpage? Your talk? {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 22:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

This is a great idea!  You should just keep it here on the forums.  Maybe even the main page?  [[User:Drizztfan13|Drizztfan13]] ([[User talk:Drizztfan13|talk]]) 23:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, thanks.  I dunno.  The forums would be best, but it would be good publicity if it were on the main page.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Why not just include all characters in the poll. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
:The poll box would be too big.  Besides, no one is gonna vote for mario on best D-special.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 01:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::I totally wud D= And I'd vote Squirtle for best neutral-special too! Characters without two copies of an attack are lame.[[User:Entrea Sumatae|<span style="color:#4682b4">'''–Entrea Sumatae'''</span>]] 02:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

What if we do it like this: Everybody can post "the character with a best specific move" in the following list but they must post a small comment why it is the best move too. For example, Captain Falcon has the best Fair because the sweetspot can KO at low percentages.

Ground Attacks

Normal

* Neutral attack - 
* Dash attack -
* Strong Down - 
* Strong Side - 
* Strong Up -

Smash

* Side Smash - 
* Down Smash - 
* Up Smash -  

Other

* Ledge attack - 
* 100% Ledge attack - 
* Floor attack -  

Aerial Attacks

* Neutral Aerial - 
* Forward Aerial - 
* Back Aerial - 
* Down Aerial - 

Grabs & Throws

* Pummel - 
* Forward Throw - 
* Back Throw -
* Up Throw - 
* Down Throw - 

Special Moves

* Standard Special Move -	
* Side Special Move -	
* Up Special Move -	
* Down Special Move -	
* Final Smash -

[[User:SuperTeddy|Teddy]] ([[User talk:SuperTeddy|talk]]) 13:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

I know what the answer is gonna be, but can I put this on the main page, like the polls were?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how the sysops will react, but I say it's worth a shot. - [[User:GalaxiaD|GalaxiaD]] ([[User talk:GalaxiaD|talk]]) 21:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, these are a bit more encyclopedic than the polls were, but I still have my doubts.  Having them be on the main page, like I said earlier, would make sure that the public sees it.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::Although it would be nice if they just read this forum page...  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 00:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Luigi with the Poltergust 3000, the perfect character by far. [[User:Alex25|Alex25]] ([[User talk:Alex25|talk]])

How would this work as a poll? [[User:Cree318|Cree318]] ([[User talk:Cree318|talk]]) 21:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

we're not making up moves, meaning no Poltergust, where taking moves that are already there, and making them one character. I personally thinks it's a good idea by the way.  [[Special:Contributions/74.73.142.163|74.73.142.163]] 00:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)(The Poltergust 3000 would be awesome for Luigi though)

But Wouldn't some users maliciously edit the choices or results?  Is there a way to make it like, admin-only or something?  [[User:DarkSmasherElite|DarkSmasherElite]] ([[User talk:DarkSmasherElite|talk]]) 14:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, this idea's been dead for a while, but there is a way to do what you said.  All an admin has to do is protect the page, and since the main page is already protected, it would be automatic.  Of course, unless this gets popular again, this won't matter.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Ideas? ==

Are we aloud to make ideas yet? If so:

B:Falcon Punch(Not necessarily Falcon of course) 

Side B:pikman Throw

Up B:Aether

Down B:Pikman Pluck

Final Smash:Super sonic(Not necessarily sonic)

As for how he'd look, I'd say Meta Knight. He should be able to fly to.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:74.73.142.163|74.73.142.163]] ([[User talk:74.73.142.163|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.73.142.163|contribs]]) </small>

Thanks for not signing your post buddy!<span style="font-family: Liorah BT">'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color: gold">O,</span>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color: gold">Mighty</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|<span style="color: gold">Smoreking</span>]]'''</span> 13:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
The 2nd FS idea was mine. It's not biased by my top characters. They just rule. The Landmaster is why Falco isn't my top character '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Great Aether!</span></sup></small>]]''' 12:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Uh... End Of Day is the best Final Smash. Then Critical Hit. U-Smash and MOST DEFF Forward Smash should be Wolf's... '''[[User:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:purple;">Kperfekt</span>]]''' [[User talk:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:red;"><sup>BURN!!!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kperfekt722|<sup>Revert That!</sup>]] 11:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Naw, Super Sonic's the best! It may be broken but there's no escaping that Golden Blur. (Hehe...) '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 12:29, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:But then I could pwn you by yelling "SCRUB" and wiping a towel on your face. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 13:14, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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