Editing Forum:Characters that should have been in Brawl

:::::::::I don't see how adding a few third party characters is going to lead to 36 third party characters so I still disagree with you about them. I never heard '''anywhere''' that Jigglypuff is the "cutest" pokemon. I also never heard the phrase "that's so weak Jigglypuff could beat it". Magikarp has the image of being the weakest pokemon, '''not''' Jigglypuff. Also, Jigglypuff '''is not''' the only pokemon that can learn sing, there are 18 other pokemon that can learn it. Don't even bring up its annoying and pointless role in the horrible anime, that should have '''nothing''' to do with Jigglypuff becoming a smasher. When it comes to a character becoming a smasher, all other media outside of video games should not be factored in to a character becoming a smasher. As such, Jigglypuff should have '''never''' been in the first ''SSB'' game and she shouldn't be brought back in the next '''SSB''' game. Also, I never said that Pichu should be brought back, it was a completely pointless character in ''Melee''. A baby pokemon should ''never'' be a smasher, especially if they're the first stage of a existing pokemon that's a smasher. In fact, any inferior version of any character is pointless. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 04:55, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

::::::::::How can you ignore the Anime? That's the only reason Pikachu is even in the series. If you're talking about Jiggly being cute, there's the [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Jigglypuff Pokemon wiki] itself. Sing may be learnable by other Pokemon, but Jigglypuff is by far the most famous f them. Again, Jigglypuff is very popular in Japan. About 3rd parties, perhaps I was exaggerating, but there should be no more than 2 new third parties in the next smash game. Again, SSB was meant for '''Nintendo's''' stars to fight, not every video game main character. Characters that have nothing to do with Nintendo at all (Sonic's past rivarly with the company for example) should not be included. For this reason Pac Man is a good choice, as he has appeared in many games, not just ''Pac Man'', and some of these were indeed designed by none other than nintendo itself. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 05:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::::Uh, it doesn't say anywhere in that article that Jigglypuff is considered the "cutest" pokemon. It also doesn't say it in Jigglypuff's article on Bulbapedia[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jigglypuff_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29], a vastly superior Pokemon Wiki. I can't possibly see how you think a pokemon being considered "cute" justifies it being a smasher. A character being included just because they "sing" is also completely ridiculous. The anime should not be taking into consideration at all, ''Smash Brothers'' is a game about video game characters, not anime or any tv show characters. As such, media outside of video games should not be considered when considering a character for Smash Brothers. The anime is also not the only reason that Pikachu was included in the "Smash" series. In case you didn't notice, Pikachu is the '''mascot''' of Pokemon. While unfortunately, its role in the anime probably did influenced it becoming the mascot for Pokemon, the anime is not the only reason Pikachu was included in the first game. As I have mentioned before but you keep seeming to ignore, significance>popularity. It doesn't matter how popular a character is, if they're not significant at all in their series, they should not be included. Think of it as a math formula where a character's right to be a smasher is this simple equation '''(S5*P2=X)''', whereas S is their significance, P is their popularity, and X is how deserving a chacter is to become a playable character in a ''SSB'' game. Now if a character's popularity rating was 24 while their significance rating was 0, the formula would equal 0, meaning that they don't deserve to be a smasher at all. No matter how high their popularity rating is, if their significance equals 0, the result of the formula will still equal 0. This is how I see it with Jigglypuff. Any popularity it has in Japan shouldn't justify it becoming a smasher when it has absolutely no significance in the Pokemon RPGs. As for the third party characters, I do know that ''SSB'' is a game about competition between Nintendo characters and I should have mention that they should have significance to Nintendo as well as being significant video game characters themselves in my earlier edit. I never said anything about supporting the inclusion of third party characters such as Master Chief, who have no significance with Nintendo. At the very least, a third party character should have appeared in a game for a Nintendo system (such as Snake has for the first two Metal Gear games as well as Twin Snakes for the GCN). In conclusion, I have no problem with significant third party characters who have appeared in games for Nintendo systems being included but I fully believe Jigglypuff should have never been included and thus it should be removed in the next ''SSB'' game. It is not popular as a pokemon outside of Japan and it is one of the least popular characters in ''Brawl'' but most importantly, it has no '''significance''' in the Pokemon RPGs. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 06:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

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