Editing Forum:Attempt to fix the Notable Players sections number 2
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The wiki has known this to be a problem for several years now, yet the notable players sections has continue to persist in being bloated in the character articles for every game (except for Brawl's, guess that's one upside of few people still caring about that game), and it has become quite the overwhelming problem to manage. These sections were originally made with the intention of noting each characters' "most historically significant players", not as a place to throw every pretty noteworthy player on there, however this clearly was not achieved. I blame a part of this for how poorly this idea is communicated through the title of these sections (you just need to be considered "notable" to have an article at all, how does that differ from being "notable" for these sections?), the fact the guidelines for these sections are buried in our [[SW:NOTE#Notable player guidelines|general notability policy page]] and thus most random part-time editors responsible for the bloat will never see it, and the lack of a strict limit that allows the "line" for what's acceptable to be pushed farther and farther. So I propose implementing the following: | The wiki has known this to be a problem for several years now, yet the notable players sections has continue to persist in being bloated in the character articles for every game (except for Brawl's, guess that's one upside of few people still caring about that game), and it has become quite the overwhelming problem to manage. These sections were originally made with the intention of noting each characters' "most historically significant players", not as a place to throw every pretty noteworthy player on there, however this clearly was not achieved. I blame a part of this for how poorly this idea is communicated through the title of these sections (you just need to be considered "notable" to have an article at all, how does that differ from being "notable" for these sections?), the fact the guidelines for these sections are buried in our [[SW:NOTE#Notable player guidelines|general notability policy page]] and thus most random part-time editors responsible for the bloat will never see it, and the lack of a strict limit that allows the "line" for what's acceptable to be pushed farther and farther. So I propose implementing the following: | ||
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:I personally prefer the project idea in conjuction with talk page. I feel like character limits will lead to some disagreements (most of which will be easily resolved). Given that a project will lead these to be tackled and agreed upon more quickly. I feel like the alternative where users tackle their own is more prone to causing more disagreements and less consensus [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 19:44, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | :I personally prefer the project idea in conjuction with talk page. I feel like character limits will lead to some disagreements (most of which will be easily resolved). Given that a project will lead these to be tackled and agreed upon more quickly. I feel like the alternative where users tackle their own is more prone to causing more disagreements and less consensus [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 19:44, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::There's 209 of these sections to go through (after merging the proposed echoes and discounting the DLC characters too young to have one), trying to force discussion on all of these before anyone can touch them is just going to really slow this process down to a crawl. Let people handle them as they see fit (with maybe some discussion in the discord if they want to), and then discuss any problems afterward on talk pages, an efficient process is better than an overly bureaucratic process that makes this process take much longer to complete than it needs to. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:08, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ::There's 209 of these sections to go through (after merging the proposed echoes and discounting the DLC characters too young to have one), trying to force discussion on all of these before anyone can touch them is just going to really slow this process down to a crawl. Let people handle them as they see fit (with maybe some discussion in the discord if they want to), and then discuss any problems afterward on talk pages, an efficient process is better than an overly bureaucratic process that makes this process take much longer to complete than it needs to. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:08, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||
==Vote on what to rename the "Notable players" sections== | ==Vote on what to rename the "Notable players" sections== | ||
