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'''Roy''' ({{ja|ロイ|Roi}}, ''Roy'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. Initially [[Leak#Roy and Ryu data|leaked]] through data mining of the 1.0.6 update, Roy was formally revealed and released alongside {{SSB4|Lucas}} and {{SSB4|Ryu}} on June 14th, 2015, making him the third [[downloadable content|downloadable]] character released and the final downloadable [[veteran]]. {{s|wikipedia|Jun Fukuyama}} reprises his role from ''[[Melee]]'' as Roy's voice actor, both providing new voice clips and mimicking old ones from ''Melee''.
'''Roy''' ({{ja|ロイ|Roi}}, ''Roy'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. Initially [[Leak#Roy and Ryu data|leaked]] through data mining of the 1.0.6 update, Roy was formally revealed and released alongside {{SSB4|Lucas}} and {{SSB4|Ryu}} on June 14th, 2015, making him the third [[downloadable content|downloadable]] character released and the final downloadable [[veteran]]. {{s|wikipedia|Jun Fukuyama}} reprises his role as Roy's voice actor, as he both mimics some of his voice clips from ''Melee'' and provides some new ones.


Roy currently ranks 32nd on the ''SSB4'' [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the F tier and making him the highest-ranking low-tier character. This is a substantial improvement from his previous placement in ''Melee'', where he was ranked 20th out of 26. His mobility is some of the best in the game with among the fastest ground and aerial speeds. His attacks also have relatively quick startup and high power overall, as the majority of them are capable of KOing at realistic percents. Roy's biggest draw, however, is his inverse [[tipper]] mechanic; thanks to his high maneuverability, he can easily land powerful strikes on the opponent with the hilt of his sword, potentially netting KOs at low percents.
Roy currently ranks 32nd on the ''SSB4'' [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the F tier and thus making him the highest ranking low-tier character. This is a substantial improvement from his previous placement in ''Melee'', where he was ranked 20th out of 26. Roy has been refined and polished from ''Melee'' to provide a more defined playstyle and has been given new attributes and characteristics that complement them well. His ferocity can be attributed to his mobility, now among the best in the game with among the fastest ground and aerial speeds. But his biggest draw is his inverse tipper mechanic, which emphasizes the power of his sword attacks near the hilt of his blade and results in his sweetspotted attacks being relatively easy to land. His attacks also have relatively quick startup and terrific power overall, as the majority of them are capable of KOing at realistic percents.


However, Roy possesses many weaknesses; he has a lackluster [[approach]] because of his lack of a projectile and generally unsafe moves, notably his [[aerial attack]]s, none of which are able to [[auto-cancel]] in a [[short hop]]. His combo game past low percents is poor, largely due to the knockback of his sweetspotted moves being too high to allow follow-ups. Roy also makes poor use of his range: because of the extreme weakness of his attacks' sourspots, Roy is unable to effectively combo, KO, or [[spacing|space]] without sweetspotting his attacks, getting dangerously close to enemies in the process. This is further compounded by many of his moves having heavy ending lag, rendering his moveset very [[punish]]able and unsafe on [[shield]]. Roy is also easy to combo, thanks to his high [[falling speed]], and has what is considered one of the worst [[recovery|recoveries]] in the game, thanks to [[Blazer]]'s predictability and low distance.
However, Roy possesses many weaknesses, some being more noticeable than others. He suffers from a relatively poor [[neutral game]], since he has very few safe approach options and lacks a [[projectile]]. His poor approach is due to the removal of [[wavedash]]ing and [[L-canceling]], and the weakening of [[dash-dancing]] from ''Melee'', as well as his aerials still not [[autocancel]]ling in a short hop, which leave his approaches predictable and punishable.


Roy's tier position is a topic of much debate. Despite being slightly buffed in patch [[1.1.4]], many consider Roy's position to be too high and claim he is one of the worst characters in the game due to the severity of his flaws. There is credibility to such statements, as he has few well-known mains aside from {{sm|Sethlon}}, who has earned below average results. Additionally, some characters ranked below him, such as {{SSB4|Kirby}}, {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, and {{SSB4|Lucina}}, have seen substantial buffs, while Roy has not improved significantly from the game updates.
His combo game past low percents is poor, largely due to the high knockback of his moves when sweetspotted, preventing follow-ups, and the poor hitstun on his sourspots, enabling opponents to escape easily, meaning he cannot use his sourspots effectively to combo, unlike Marth. This results in him having risky KOing potential, as most of his finishers have high ending lag, and therefore easily [[punish]]able if whiffed, as he requires sweetspots and has almost no guaranteed setups into his KO moves. He is also an easy combo target himself, due to his [[falling speed]] and tall stature. Despite his high [[air speed]], Roy's [[recovery]] is among the worst in the game, as Blazer is his only recovery option and only grants little distance.
 
Overall, Roy's position is under debate. Despite being slightly buffed in patch [[1.1.4]], many consider Roy's position to be too high and claim he is one of the worst characters in the game due to the severity of his flaws. There is credibility to such statements, as he has little to no tournament results apart from one dedicated player ({{sm|Sethlon}}) who has earned below average results. Additionally, some characters ranked below him, such as Kirby, Mewtwo, Marth and Lucina have been largely buffed while Roy has not improved significantly from the game updates.


==Attributes==
==Attributes==
[[File:RoyMarthComparison.jpeg|400px|thumb|Roy and {{SSB4|Marth}} performing their forward smash attacks. Note that the sweetspot is highlighted by the trail left by their swords. Marth's Falchion's strongest part is at its tip while Roy's Sword of Seals' strongest part is at its hilt.]]
[[File:RoyMarthComparison.jpeg|400px|thumb|Roy and {{SSB4|Marth}} performing their forward smash attacks. Note that the sweetspot is highlighted by the trail left by their swords. Marth's Falchion's strongest part is at its tip while Roy's Sword of Seals' strongest part is at its hilt.]]
Roy is a [[semi-clone]] of {{SSB4|Marth}}, sharing a handful of moves with him; however, Roy has an individualized playstyle thanks to certain mechanical differences, the most notable of which is his inverse [[tipper]]: the [[fireemblemwiki:Binding Blade (weapon)|Sword of Seals]] deals more damage and knockback near its hilt, and much less at the blade's tip compared to Marth's Falchion. Roy's physics are also very different: he has better mobility, with an above average [[walking]] speed, the eleventh fastest [[Dash|dashing]] speed, the fourth fastest [[air speed]], and the fifth fastest [[falling speed]], along with average [[weight]]. However, Roy is tied for the longest initial dash animation (17 frames), giving him a poor shield buffer out of his dash, and his [[air acceleration]] is among the worst in the game.
Roy's moveset design is mostly based off of his base character {{SSB4|Marth}}, but with a number of differences and other fine components, the most notable of which is his inverse of Marth's tipper mechanic: his [[fireemblemwiki:Binding Blade (weapon)|Sword of Seals]] deals more damage and knockback near its hilt and much less at the blade's tip compared to Marth's Falchion. Roy's attributes are also very different: he has better mobility overall, with an above average [[walking]] speed, a fast [[Dash|dashing]] speed, the fourth fastest [[air speed]], and the fifth fastest [[falling speed]], along with average [[weight]]. However, Roy is tied for the longest initial dash animation (17 frames), giving him a poor shield buffer out of his dash, and his [[air acceleration]] is among the worst in the game. In addition, many of his attack animations were changed from ''Melee'' and now properly align with their hitboxes. These changes have resulted in him becoming a near semi-clone of Marth rather than a true clone.


Roy's attacks generally have quick startup, and his high speed allows him to easily get close to his opponent. His neutral aerial is perhaps his most versatile move, thanks to its low startup and landing lag, long-lasting hitbox, and utility as a combo startup. He also possesses a good spacing and [[shield stab]]bing move in his down tilt. Once Roy finds an opening, he has several ways in which to rack up damage. His jab is quick and can easily lead into other moves, including his throws and tilts. His down and forward throws send opponents at favorable angles, opening up combo opportunities his neutral attack, dash attack, forward tilt, neutral aerial, and [[Double-Edge Dance]]. His inversed sweetspot also benefits him. Since it is much larger than Marth's sweetspot, he on average gets higher damage more reliably from his combos (and in general) than Marth, who requires meticulous spacing for the same effect.
Roy's attributes give him a different playstyle from Marth. Roy's attacks generally have quick startup, and his high speed allows him to get in close to his opponent. His neutral aerial is perhaps his most versatile move. Its low startup, decent-lasting hitbox, and low landing lag make it an effective approach option, as well as a quick way to clear space, and it can start combos. His down tilt, with its quick startup, low ending lag, and deceptive range, is useful for poking at the opponent and pressuring shields. Once Roy finds an opening, he has several ways in which to rack up damage. His jab is quick and can easily lead into other moves, including his throws. His down and forward throws send opponents at favorable angles, and can combo into his neutral attack, dash attack, forward tilt, neutral aerial, and [[Double-Edge Dance]]. Roy's neutral aerial is also a great combo tool, complementing his high air speed by chaining into itself out of short hops and following up with his other aerials. His inversed sweetspot also helps with this. Since it is much larger than Marth's sweetspot, he on average gets much more damage from his combos than Marth, who requires careful spacing for the same effect. As such, Roy has an easier time closing in on the opponent and racking up damage compared to Marth.


Despite his speed, Roy boasts an array of KOing options, with many of his sweetspotted attacks capable of KOing below 130%. His attacks are also less polarizing than Marth's, as most of them include an additional hitbox that is between the sweetspot and sourspot both and position and power, and so Roy does not require precise spacing to reliably land a KO blow. While on the stage, his best KOing options are his forward tilt, forward smash, up tilt and [[Blazer]], due to their fast startup and high power. Blazer is additionally an excellent [[out of shield]] option, granting him [[super armor]] on startup. His disjointed hitboxes lend themselves to an effective off-stage game. His forward and back aerials are quick and cover wide arcs, while his down aerial is a reliable [[meteor smash]]. [[Flare Blade]] is deadly against opponents who try to sweetspot the ledge, courtesy of its charging ability, incredible power, huge hitbox, and deceptively low ending lag. His [[Counter]] is also one of the strongest in the game, with a damage multiplier of 1.35x making it devastating if used against a powerful attack. Roy's average weight and fast falling speed give him strong on-stage endurance, and he can make great use of [[rage]], which further enhances the knockback of his already powerful moves.
Roy also boasts an array of KOing options, with almost all of his sweetspotted attacks capable of KOing below 130%. However, he does not suffer from the penalties other characters with powerful movesets have, namely the generally slow endlag of their moves. His attacks are also less polarizing than Marth's, as most of them include an additional hitbox in the center of the blade that is stronger than the sourspot but weaker than the sweetspot, and so Roy does not require precise spacing to reliably land a KO blow. While on the stage, his best KOing options are his forward tilt, forward smash, up tilt and [[Blazer]], due to their fast startup and high power. Blazer is additionally an excellent [[out of shield]] option as it grants him [[super armor]] on startup. His disjointed hitboxes grant him an effective off-stage game as well. His forward and back aerials are quick, and cover wide arcs, and his down aerial is a moderately fast and powerful [[meteor smash]]. [[Flare Blade]] is deadly against opponents who try to sweetspot the ledge, courtesy of its charging ability, incredible power, huge hitbox, and deceptively low ending lag. And finally, his [[Counter]] scales with the power of the countered attack and can kill at absurdly early percents due to its higher multiplier than Marth's (dealing 1.35x the damage absorbed along with the [[flame]] effect), making it a feared finishing move if used properly. Roy's average weight and fast falling speed give him strong on-stage endurance, and he can make great use of [[rage]], which further enhances the knockback of his already powerful moves.


However, Roy is greatly hindered by a slew of flaws. While his hilt mechanic is one of his greatest strengths, it also forces him to fight extremely close to his opponent in order to be utilized to its fullest. This is worsened by his [[range]] being decidedly short for a sword fighter, resulting in a whiffed move on Roy's part leaving him heavily open to [[punishment]]. His moves have high ending lag, and so when combined with his need to fight close, Roy cannot space out his opponents as effectively as other sword characters, while also being unable to safely rush down his foes. He also suffers from a predictable approach despite his good mobility, since he has no quick options with which to close in and pressure the opponent outside of his neutral aerial, and this is made worse by his lack of a projectile. His high air speed is offset by his poor aerial acceleration, making his aerial approach highly committal in general, in a similar line to {{SSB4|Ryu}}.  
However, Roy is held back by a large number of flaws. While his hilt mechanic is one of his greatest strengths, it also forces him to fight extremely close to his opponent in order to be utilized to its fullest. This is further compounded by his [[range]] being shorter than Marth's, but also results in a whiffed move on Roy's part leaving him heavily open to [[punishment]]. His moves have high ending lag, and so when combined with his need to fight close, Roy cannot space out his opponents as effectively as other sword characters, while also being unable to safely rush down his foes. He also suffers from a predictable approach despite his good mobility, since he has no quick options with which to close in and pressure the opponent outside of his neutral aerial, and this is made worse by his lack of a projectile. His high air speed is offset by his poor aerial acceleration, making his aerial approach highly committal in general, in a similar line to {{SSB4|Ryu}}.  


Roy's combo game is dangerous early on, with his follow-ups being strong and versatile at lower percents. However, unlike Marth, the sourspots of Roy's moves are completely without use in combos, placing a lot of emphasis on precision in Roy's combos and causing them to quickly lose their effectiveness. The high ending lag of Roy's moves, as well as the low [[hitstun]] of his down throw, and the fact that most opponents can reliably tech out of his forward throw followups, also opens up holes in his combo game. He also has no reliable setups into his KO moves, causing him to heavily depend on [[reads]] to secure KOs.
Roy's combo game functions slightly differently to Marth's, and excels and suffers in different areas; Roy's follow-ups at lower percents are generally better than Marth's, but due to Marth's sourspot having use for combos and Roy's not, Marth can combo a few moves together at mid/high-mid percents when Roy cannot. Like Marth's combo game, Roy's combo game has its flaws. Roy's moves have high ending lag, his down throw has low [[hitstun]], and his forward throw follow-ups can be teched out of. His reverse tipper mechanic can hinder him here, as the sourspots of his sword strikes have rather low hitstun; his jab is the best example of this, as its sourspot has low hitstun while sending the opponent at a horizontal angle that is unfavorable for combos. These factors give Roy a relatively poor combo game past low percents and often force him to rely on [[read]]s for follow-ups, especially on floaty characters, and can give him trouble KOing despite his fearsome power, as outside the predictable first hit of his neutral aerial, he has no guaranteed setups into his KO moves.


In spite of his high maneuverability, Roy's [[recovery]] is somewhat notorious for its ineffectiveness. Though Blazer offers excellent protection, can be angled, and grants decent horizontal distance, it gives little vertical recovery and can be easily predicted. Combined with his high falling speed, this leaves him helpless against meteor smashes, and even a solid [[semi-spike]] can launch him too far away to recover. Additionally, players unaccustomed to his falling speed will quickly find that any misused aerial off-stage will send him too far off the stage to recover.
Another of Roy's glaring flaws is his [[recovery]]. Though Blazer offers excellent protection, can be angled, and grants decent horizontal distance, it gives little vertical recovery. Combined with his high falling speed, this leaves him helpless against meteor smashes, and even a solid [[semi-spike]] can launch him too far away to recover. Additionally, players unaccustomed to his falling speed will quickly find that any misused aerial off-stage will send him too far off the stage to recover. These two flaws hinder his off stage and edgeguarding potential, making them average at best.


Roy's high falling speed causes another problem: he is very susceptible to [[combos]] while onstage. His unsafe moves offer opponents many opportunities to punish him, and none of his moves are generally reliable enough to consistently break combos. Because of this, many characters with reliable combo moves can rack up large amounts of damage and easily force him off-stage, where he could potentially lose his stock if dealt with accordingly. Finally, due to his status as a DLC character, Roy does not have any custom moves, significantly hurting him in tournaments allowing them; while this is a problem shared with other DLC characters, it arguably affects Roy the most due to the comparatively low utility of his special moves.
Roy's high falling speed leads to another problem: he is very susceptible to [[combos]] while onstage. This is exacerbated by his hilt mechanic, which forces him to fight very close to his opponents, offering them many opportunities to punish him should Roy mess up a desired attack. None of his moves are generally reliable enough to break combos, and thus many characters with reliable combo moves can rack up large amounts of damage and easily force him off-stage, where he could potentially lose his stock if dealt with accordingly (however, the high shieldstun on his sweetpsots makes it slightly harder to do if the opponent is shielding). Finally, due to his status as a DLC character, Roy does not have any custom moves, significantly limiting him in tournaments allowing custom specials; while this is a problem shared with other DLC characters, it affects Roy the most due to his weaknesses remaining intact, especially compared to the other DLC characters' weaknesses.


Overall, Roy's weaknesses are considered more prevalent his strengths. He boasts excellent speed and power, with a decent combo game and threatening finishers, but suffers from his own vulnerability to combos from several characters like {{SSB4|Fox}} and {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}, as well as a poor recovery, predictable [[approach]], difficulty KOing, and ironically short range for a swordsman, making him akin to a rush-down and/or glass cannon fighter archetypes. Despite initially being viewed as a viable high-tier character and possibly the best swordsman in the game, he has become infamous for having the worst tournament representation of all DLC characters, as well as one of the worst among the entire cast, as he has little to no use from professional players other than {{Sm|Sethlon}} and {{Sm|All Might}}, and thus lacks noteworthy results. Roy's standing relative to the cast is among the most contentious of all characters, as while some players believe he could have the potential to compete in tournaments, many others, such as {{Sm|Abadango}} and {{Sm|Dabuz}} believe he is among the worst characters in the game. This highly contrasts the early views on his viability, as many players, including {{Sm|ZeRo}}, initially considered him a viable character.
Overall, as in ''Melee'', Roy's weaknesses still objectively outweigh his strengths. He boasts excellent speed and power, with a decent combo game and threatening finishers, but suffers from his own vulnerability to combos from several characters like {{SSB4|Fox}} and {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}, as well as a poor recovery, predictable [[approach]], difficulty KOing, and ironically short range for a swordsman, making him akin to a rush-down and/or glass cannon fighter archetypes. Despite initially being viewed as a viable high-tier character and possibly the best swordsman in the game, he has become infamous for having the worst tournament representation of all DLC characters, as well as one of the worst among the entire cast, as he has little to no use from professional players other than {{Sm|Sethlon}} and {{Sm|All Might}}, and thus lacks noteworthy results. However, Roy's standing relative to the cast is among the most contentious of all characters, as while some players believe he could have the potential to compete in tournaments, many others, such as {{Sm|Abadango}} and {{Sm|Dabuz}} state that he is still among the worst characters in the game. This highly contrasts the early views on his viability, as many people (including players like {{Sm|ZeRo}}) initially considered him a viable character. As such, Roy's placement remains a topic of significant debate among players.


==Changes from ''Melee''==
==Changes from ''Melee''==
Roy, along with {{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Charizard}}, {{SSB4|King Dedede}}, and {{SSB4|Pit}}, is frequently considered part of a group of characters to have been largely reworked during the transition to ''SSB4''. In Roy's case, several of his moves were de-cloned from {{SSB4|Marth}}, to the point he is now a semi-clone rather than a full clone. Amidst this, Roy received a mix of buffs and nerfs, despite being a low-tier character in ''Melee'', though while he was objectively buffed overall, the changes to game physics, when paired with his nerfs, are enough to make it difficult to determine whether he was overall buffed or nerfed.
Roy is one of the few characters to have received some of the most noticeable changes in his transition to ''SSB4'' (alongside {{SSB4|Charizard}}, {{SSB4|King Dedede}}, {{SSB4|Pit}} and fellow ''Melee'' veteran {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}), with several of his moves being de-cloned from {{SSB4|Marth}}, to the point he is now considered a semi-clone rather than a full clone. Roy has also got a mix of buffs and nerfs in the transition to ''SSB4'', despite being a low-tier character in ''Melee'', though while he was objectively buffed overall, the changes to game physics and his other nerfs are enough to make up for the buffs he has received, making it hard to determine whether he was overall buffed or nerfed.


Among Roy's buffs are his greatly improved mobility, now having a faster dashing speed and one of the fastest air speeds in the game, as well as his moveset being notably more rewarding than in ''Melee'': most of his moves are different from Marth, such as his new neutral attack, forward and up tilts, dash attack and down aerial, all of which improve his up-close and combo games, and many of which are more reliable KO moves. His damage output is higher, and his sweetspotted attacks are considerably more powerful, giving him a bevy of new KOing options, which generally alleviates his main weakness from ''Melee''. His attack speed is faster overall, with his aerials in particular having significantly reduced ending and landing lag ([[L-canceling]] notwithstanding). Lastly, the addition of [[rage]], along with his heavier weight, boosts his KO power even further should he survive to high percents.
First of all, Roy has received several noticeable buffs. His mobility has been greatly improved, now having a faster dashing speed and one of the fastest air speeds in the game. His moveset is notably more rewarding than in ''Melee'': most of his moves are different from Marth, such as his new neutral attack, forward and up tilts, dash attack and down aerial, all of which improve his up-close and combo games. His moves also deal more damage, and his sweetspotted attacks are considerably more powerful, which gives him many more KOing options, and generally alleviates his main weakness from ''Melee''. His attack speed is overall faster, with his aerials in particular having significantly reduced ending and landing lag. As a result, his improved air game benefits his combo game. Lastly, the addition of [[rage]], along with his heavier weight, boosts his KO power even further.


However, Roy has also received significant nerfs. Roy now stands at Marth's height, which enlarges his hurtbox, though his attacks have much shorter reach and hitbox durations in spite of this, forcing him to fight even closer to the opponent, exacerbating one of his key weaknesses in ''Melee''. For the most part, Roy is also harmed by mechanical changes: the loss of [[wavedashing]] and [[L-canceling]], as well as the weakening of [[dash-dancing]], noticeably worsens his approach. The general increase in range for other characters, like {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}}, {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}, also indirectly hurts him. Roy's already poor recovery has also been worsened: while his air speed is higher and his falling speed is slower, and [[Blazer]] grants more horizontal distance, it also covers less vertical distance, and [[Double-Edge Dance]] can no longer be used to slow his falling speed. Along with the removal of [[meteor cancelling]] and the improved recoveries of the rest of the cast, Roy is arguably easier to edgeguard than in ''Melee''. Finally, despite the slower falling speeds in the game compared to ''Melee'', Roy is still easy to combo, since he is heavier than in ''Melee''. As a result of the previous two changes, Roy's off-stage presence is far less potent.
However, Roy has also received significant nerfs. Roy now stands at Marth's height, which increases his hurtbox, though despite this change, his attacks have much shorter reach and hitbox durations, forcing him to fight even closer to the opponent, exacerbating one of his other weaknesses in ''Melee''. For the most part, Roy is also harmed by gameplay changes: the loss of [[wavedashing]] and [[L-canceling]] noticeably worsens his approach, along with the weakening of [[dash-dancing]], and they also compound his decreased reach. Most characters have also had the reach on their attacks increased, like {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}}, {{SSB4|Bowser}} and Marth. Roy's already poor recovery has also been worsened: while his air speed is higher and his falling speed is slower, and despite [[Blazer]] granting more horizontal distance, it also covers less vertical distance, and [[Double-Edge Dance]] can no longer be used to slow his falling speed. And since the cast falls generally slower, Roy's slower falling speed does not really provide a noticeable benefit. Along with the removal of [[meteor cancelling]] and the improved recoveries of the rest of the cast, Roy is arguably easier to edgeguard than in ''Melee''. Finally, despite the slower falling speeds in the game compared to ''Melee'', Roy is still easy to combo, though since he is heavier than in ''Melee'', as well as a large portion of the easier to combo characters falling slower or being lighter than him, he is now one of the easiest characters to combo in the game relative to the cast, while he still does not possess a reliable move to break a combo. As a result of the previous two changes, Roy is arguably frailer than in ''Melee'', despite his stronger on-stage endurance.


Overall, both Roy's strengths and weaknesses are more pronounced than in ''Melee''. While his sweetspotted attacks are more rewarding, he has to fight even closer in order to rack up damage due to his decreased reach, while his sub-par survivability makes his playstyle highly risky. Due to this, it is difficult to say how much Roy has improved from ''Melee'', if at all, considering most of his fellow veterans were also buffed to varying degrees.
Overall, Roy's strengths and weaknesses are more pronounced than in ''Melee''. While his sweetspotted attacks are more rewarding, he has to fight even closer in order to rack up damage due to his decreased reach, while his sub-par survivability further compounds this issue. Due to this, it is difficult to say how much Roy has improved from ''Melee'', if at all, considering most of his fellow veterans were also buffed to varying degrees.


===Aesthetics===
===Aesthetics===
*{{change|Roy's design is now a combination of his appearance as a Master Lord in ''Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade'' and his appearance as an Einherjar in ''Fire Emblem Awakening''. He also has smaller eyes, a slightly more muscular physique, and slightly shorter hair.}}
*{{change|Roy's design is now a combination of his appearance as a Master Lord in ''Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade'' and his appearance as an Einherjar in ''Fire Emblem Awakening''. He also has smaller eyes, a slightly more muscular physique, and slightly shorter hair.}}
*{{change|The [[fireemblemwiki:Binding Blade (weapon)|Sword of Seals]]'s trail now clearly indicates its sweetspot at its hilt, similarly to {{SSB4|Marth}}'s [[fireemblemwiki:Falchion|Falchion]].}}
*{{change|The [[fireemblemwiki:Binding Blade (weapon)|Sword of Seals]]'s trail now clearly indicates its sweetspot, similarly to {{SSB4|Marth}}'s [[fireemblemwiki:Falchion|Falchion]]. In Roy's case, the Sword of Seals' sweetspot is near its hilt.}}
*{{change|Most of Roy's sword swings aesthetically appear heavier, as he now swings the Sword of Seals in a reverse grip or with both hands. As a result, Roy's Sword of Seals behaves like a heavier broadsword compared to {{SSB4|Marth}} and {{SSB4|Lucina}}'s "lighter" Falchion and [[fireemblemwiki:Parallel Falchion|Parallel Falchion]], which they appear to swing with less effort.}}
*{{change|Most of Roy's sword swings aesthetically appear "heavier", as he now swings the Sword of Seals in a reverse grip or with both hands. As a result, Roy's Sword of Seals behaves like a heavier broadsword compared to {{SSB4|Marth}} and {{SSB4|Lucina}}'s "lighter" Falchion and [[fireemblemwiki:Parallel Falchion|Parallel Falchion]], which they appear to swing with less effort.}}
*{{change|[[Jump]], [[sidestep]], and shield break animations have been changed.}}
*{{change|[[Jump]], [[sidestep]], and shield break animations have been changed.}}
*{{change|Roy now has an [[on-screen appearance]], where he arrives on via warp magic with the Sword of Seals stuck in the ground as he pulls it out.}}
*{{change|Roy now has an [[on-screen appearance]], where he arrives on via warp magic with the Sword of Seals stuck in the ground as he pulls it out.}}
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*{{change|Roy is [[weight|heavier]] (85 → 95), improving his endurance, but making him more susceptible to combos.}}
*{{change|Roy is [[weight|heavier]] (85 → 95), improving his endurance, but making him more susceptible to combos.}}
*{{nerf|Roy [[walk]]s slower (1.2 → 1.15).}}
*{{nerf|Roy [[walk]]s slower (1.2 → 1.15).}}
*{{buff|Roy [[dash]]es much faster (1.61 → 1.95), giving him the eleventh fastest dashing speed in the game.}}
*{{buff|Roy [[dash]]es faster (1.61 → 1.95), giving him the eleventh fastest dashing speed in the game.}}
*{{buff|Roy's [[air speed]] is much faster (0.9 → 1.24), giving him the fourth fastest air speed in the game.}}
*{{buff|Roy's [[air speed]] is faster (0.9 → 1.24), giving him the fourth fastest air speed in the game.}}
*{{change|Roy [[falling speed|falls]] slower (2.4 → 1.8), though he still has the fifth fastest falling speed in the game.}}
*{{change|Roy [[falling speed|falls]] slower (2.4 → 1.8), though he still has the fifth fastest falling speed in the game. Despite his slower falling speed, his aerials are still incapable of autocanceling from a short hop.}}
*{{nerf|Due to the aforementioned alterations to his sword swings, many of Roy's attacks have altered hitbox placements compared to Marth's, resulting in smaller hitboxes and range.}}
*{{nerf|Due to the aforementioned alterations to his sword swings, many of Roy's attacks have altered hitbox placements compared to Marth's and smaller hitboxes.}}
*{{nerf|Roy now stands at Marth's height, which makes his hurtbox bigger.}}
*{{nerf|Roy now stands at Marth's height, which makes his hurtbox bigger. Despite this, he still has less range than Marth due to altered hitbox placements.}}
*{{nerf|The removal of [[wavedash]]ing and [[L-canceling]] and the weakening of [[dash-dancing]] have hindered Roy's neutral and approach games.}}
*{{nerf|The removal of [[wavedash]]ing and the weakening of [[dash-dancing]] have hindered Roy's neutral and approach games.}}
*{{change|The removal of [[chain grab]]bing both helps and hinders Roy. While it has hindered his damaging racking potential, it also means that he is no longer susceptible to being chain grabbed himself. Additionally, his high falling speed results in him no longer being susceptible to pseudo-chain grabs.}}
*{{change|The removal of [[chain grab]]bing both helps and hinders Roy. While it has hindered his damaging racking potential, it also means that he is no longer susceptible to being chain grabbed himself. Additionally, his high falling speed results in him no longer being susceptible to pseudo-chain grabs.}}


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==Update history==
==Update history==
Roy has received some minor buffs since his release. Update 1.1.0 gave [[Blazer]] additional hitboxes, making it easier to land. However, the same update reduced the damage outputs of its first and last hits, which slightly weakened its KO potential. The changes to shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and [[1.1.1]] have made Roy's sweetspotted attacks much safer at the cost of his sourspotted attacks being less safe, to the point where his [[semi-clone]], {{SSB4|Lucina}}, has safer attacks than both him and Marth. Lastly and most prominently, 1.1.4 decreased the landing lag on all of his aerials and improved Double-Edge Dance's startup and ending lag.
Roy has been slightly buffed as of update 1.1.4. Update 1.1.0 gave [[Blazer]] additional hitboxes, making it easier to land. However, the same update reduced the damage outputs of its first and last hits, which slightly weakened its KO potential. The changes to shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and [[1.1.1]] have made Roy's sweetspotted attacks much safer at the cost of his sourspotted attacks being less safe, to the point where his [[semi-clone]], {{SSB4|Lucina}}, has safer attacks than both him and Marth. Lastly and most prominently, 1.1.4 decreased the landing lag on all of his aerials and improved Double-Edge Dance's startup and ending lag.


'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]'''
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]'''
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|dtiltname= 
|dtiltname= 
|dtiltdmg=11% (sweetspot), 6.5% (sourspot)
|dtiltdmg=11% (sweetspot), 6.5% (sourspot)
|dtiltdesc=A crouching stab, similar to {{SSB4|Marth}}'s. Much weaker than Roy's other tilts due to using the Sword of Seals' tip, but it has the lowest amount of ending lag among them and is good for edgeguarding or starting tech-chases.
|dtiltdesc=A crouching sword poke, similar to {{SSB4|Marth}}'s. Much weaker than Roy's other tilt attacks due to using the Sword of Seals' tip, but it has the lowest amount of ending lag and is good for edgeguarding or starting tech-chases.
|dashname= 
|dashname= 
|dashdmg=13% (sweetspot), 9% (sourspot)
|dashdmg=13% (sweetspot), 9% (sourspot)
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|nsdefname=Flare Blade
|nsdefname=Flare Blade
|nsdefdmg=6%-45%, 50% (fully charged sweetspot), 36%( fully charged sourspot)
|nsdefdmg=6%-45%, 50% (fully charged sweetspot), 36%( fully charged sourspot)
|nsdefdesc=Charges the Sword of Seals with flames, similarly to Ike's [[Eruption]]. It can be charged for a maximum of five seconds before unleashing an explosion, with the explosion's size growing as it charges. With high base knockback at almost all charge levels and very high knockback growth, a barely charged Flare Blade is one of Roy's most viable KOing options. Fully charged, it is capable of [[one-hit KO]]ing every single character in the game, except {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Shulk}} with [[Monado Arts|Shield]] active, from the center of [[Final Destination]]. A fully charged explosion deals 10% recoil damage to Roy, however. Despite its power, the move has surprisingly little ending lag, with Roy being able to act out of it almost immediately. The fully-charged explosion also has a sourspot at its edges that deals much less damage and knockback and is not a OHKO, instead KOing at 41%. It is possibly Roy's best option to use to punish a [[dazed]] opponent because of its OHKO potential when fully charged, especially considering Roy's good shield pressuring capability.
|nsdefdesc=Charges the Sword of Seals with flames, similarly to Ike's [[Eruption]]. It can be charged for a maximum of five seconds before unleashing an explosion, with the explosion's size growing as it charges. With high base knockback at almost all charge levels and very high knockback growth, a barely charged Flare Blade is one of Roy's most viable KOing options. Fully charged, it is capable of [[one-hit KO]]ing every single character in the game, except {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Shulk}} with [[Monado Arts|Shield]] active, from the center of [[Final Destination]]. A fully charged explosion deals 10% recoil damage to Roy, however. Despite its power, the move has surprisingly little ending lag, with Roy being able to act out of it almost immediately. The attack also has a sourspot at the edges that deals much less damage and knockback and is not a OHKO, instead KOing at 41%. It is possibly Roy's best option to use to punish a [[dazed]] opponent because of its OHKO potential when fully charged, especially considering Roy's good shield pressuring capability.
|nsc1name=N/A
|nsc1name=N/A
|nsc1dmg=
|nsc1dmg=
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|ssdefname=Double-Edge Dance
|ssdefname=Double-Edge Dance
|ssdefdmg=3%-5% (first hit), 2%-3% (second forward hit), 2%-3% (second upward hit), 1%-3% (second downward hit), 2%-3% (third forward hit), 3% (third upward hit), 4% (third downward hit), 6% (last forward hit), 5% (last upward hit), 2% (last downward hits 1-4), 6% (last downward hit 5)
|ssdefdmg=3%-5% (first hit), 2%-3% (second forward hit), 2%-3% (second upward hit), 1%-3% (second downward hit), 2%-3% (third forward hit), 3% (third upward hit), 4% (third downward hit), 6% (last forward hit), 5% (last upward hit), 2% (last downward hits 1-4), 6% (last downward hit 5)
|ssdefdesc=A combination of sword slashes, similarly to Marth and {{SSB4|Lucina}}'s [[Dancing Blade]]. The type of slashes can be influenced by directional inputs, the attacks being no different in animation from Marth and Lucina's, though the move's overall knockback is slightly stronger on Roy's end. The last hit of each variation deals [[flame]] damage.
|ssdefdesc=A combination of sword slashes, similarly to Marth and {{SSB4|Lucina}}'s [[Dancing Blade]]. The type of slashes can be influenced by directional inputs, the attacks being no different in animation from Marth and Lucina's, though the move's overall knockback is slightly stronger on Roy's end. The very last hit of each variation deals [[flame]] damage.
|ssc1name=N/A
|ssc1name=N/A
|ssc1dmg=
|ssc1dmg=
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|usdefname=Blazer
|usdefname=Blazer
|usdefdmg=5%/4% (hit 1, sweetspotted/sourspotted), 1% (hits 2-4), 8%/7% (hit 5, sweetspotted/sourspotted)
|usdefdmg=5%/4% (hit 1, sweetspotted/sourspotted), 1% (hits 2-4), 8%/7% (hit 5, sweetspotted/sourspotted)
|usdefdesc=A jumping, reverse-gripped fiery slash. Hits multiple times, and can be angled diagonally. Grants super armor at the beginning of the move. If all of its hits connect, it KOs at around 110% on the ground. A viable out of shield or KOing option, but rather mediocre if used for recovery.
|usdefdesc=A jumping, reverse gripped fiery slash. Hits multiple times, which can also be angled diagonally. Grants super armor at the beginning of the move. If all of its hits connect, it KOs at around 110% on the ground. A viable out of shield or KOing option because of the super armor frames at the beginning of the move, but rather mediocre if used for recovery.
|usc1name=N/A
|usc1name=N/A
|usc1dmg=
|usc1dmg=
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|char=Roy
|char=Roy
|desc-up=Triumphantly holds the Sword of Seals above his head pointing towards the side. Based on the [http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/f/fa/RoyBindingBladeArt.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081114132041 cutscene illustration] from ''The Binding Blade'' where Roy draws the Sword of Seals for the first time.
|desc-up=Triumphantly holds the Sword of Seals above his head pointing towards the side. Based on the [http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/f/fa/RoyBindingBladeArt.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081114132041 cutscene illustration] from ''The Binding Blade'' where Roy draws the Sword of Seals for the first time.
|desc-side=Winds back before posing, holding the Sword of Seals backhanded toward the screen while saying "{{ja|僕 は 負けない!|Boku wa Makenai!}}" ("I won't lose!"). This line was one of his victory quotes in ''Melee''.
|desc-side=Winds back before posing, holding the Sword of Seals backhanded toward the screen while saying "{{ja|僕 は 負けない!|Boku wa Makenai!}}", which translates to "I won't lose!" This line was one of his victory quotes in ''Melee'' but was repurposed for this taunt.
|desc-down=Kneels and twirls the Sword of Seals behind him while yelling "Heee-ya!" This taunt returns from ''Melee'' and the yell is one of his attacking lines when using moves.}}
|desc-down=Kneels and twirls the Sword of Seals behind him while yelling "Heee-ya!" This taunt returns from ''Melee'' and the yell is one of his attacking lines when using moves.}}


===[[Idle pose]]s===
===[[Idle pose]]s===
{{Idle
{{Idle
|desc-1=Pumps his fist while grinning. Unusually, this is actually a part of his standing animation, and can be seen on the [[customization]] screen, unlike other idle poses.
|desc-1=Pumps his fist while grinning. While it looks like an idle animation, this is actually the end of his standing animation, and can be seen on the [[customization]] screen, unlike other idle poses.
|desc-2=Swipes his hand lightly against the Sword of Seals while holding it in front of himself.
|desc-2=Swipes his hand lightly against the Sword of Seals while holding it in front of himself.
|image-1=RoyIdlePose1WiiU.jpg
|image-1=RoyIdlePose1WiiU.jpg
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{{Victory/SSB4
{{Victory/SSB4
|victory-theme=FireEmblemTheme.ogg
|victory-theme=FireEmblemTheme.ogg
|victory-desc=A small orchestral cover from the title theme of the first ''Fire Emblem'' game, which has since become the main theme of the series.
|victory-desc=This victory theme is a small orchestral cover from the title theme of the first ''Fire Emblem'' game, which has since become the main theme of the series.
|desc-1=Swipes the Sword of Seals once over his shoulder, then swipes it down and behind him while facing left, saying "{{ja|真の戦いは、これからだ。|Shin no tatakai wa, korekara da.}}" ("The true battle is yet to begin.")
|desc-1=Swipes the Sword of Seals once over his shoulder, then swipes it down and behind him while facing left, saying "{{ja|真の戦いは、これからだ。|Shin no tatakai wa, korekara da.}}", which translates to "The true battle, is yet to begin."
|desc-2=Spins the Sword of Seals one and a half times and then sheaths it, saying "{{ja|苦しい戦いだった。|Kurushī tatakai datta.}}" ("It was a painful fight."). Replaces his old victory animation from ''Melee'', where he thrusted the Sword of Seals toward the ground.
|desc-2=Spins the Sword of Seals one and a half times and then sheaths it, saying "{{ja|苦しい戦いだった。|Kurushī tatakai datta.}}", which translates to "It was a painful fight." Replaces his old victory animation from ''Melee'', where he thrusted the Sword of Seals toward the ground.
|desc-3=Flourishes the Sword of Seals and poses with it by his side, saying "{{ja|守るべきもののために、負けられない!|Mamoru beki mono no tame ni, makerarenai!}}" ("For those whom I must protect, I will not lose!")
|desc-3=Flourishes the Sword of Seals and poses with it by his side, saying "{{ja|守るべきもののために、負けられない!|Mamoru beki mono no tame ni, makerarenai!}}", which is localized as "For those whom I must protect, I will not lose!"
|char=Roy}}
|char=Roy}}


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Roy_amiibo.png|Roy's [[amiibo]].
Roy_amiibo.png|Roy's [[amiibo]].
Roy Screen-1.jpg|Taunting in front of a wall of fire on [[Norfair]].
Roy Screen-1.jpg|Taunting in front of a wall of fire on [[Norfair]].
Roy Screen-2.jpg|Attacking {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}.
Roy Screen-2.jpg|Roy attacking {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}.
Roy Screen-3.jpg|Attacking {{SSB4|Lucario}}.
Roy Screen-3.jpg|Roy attacking {{SSB4|Lucario}}.
Roy Screen-4.jpg|[[Critical Hit]].
Roy Screen-4.jpg|[[Critical Hit]].
Roy Screen-5.jpg|Roy and [[Koopalings|Roy Koopa]].
Roy Screen-5.jpg|Roy and [[Koopalings|Roy Koopa]].
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Roy Screen-8.jpg|All of Roy's alternate color schemes.
Roy Screen-8.jpg|All of Roy's alternate color schemes.
Roy Screen-9.jpg|Performing Double-Edge Dance.
Roy Screen-9.jpg|Performing Double-Edge Dance.
Roy Screen-10.jpg|Posing with both female and male {{SSB4|Robin}}.
Roy Screen-10.jpg|Roy posing with both female and male {{SSB4|Robin}}.
</gallery>
</gallery>


==Trivia==
==Trivia==
*Roy's pose in his official artwork is nearly identical to his ''Melee'' official artwork, as with {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}.
*Roy's pose in his official artwork is nearly identical to his ''Melee'' official artwork, as with {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}.
*Aspects of Roy's sound design carry over from ''Melee'':
*Aspects of Roy's sound design carry over from ''Melee''.
**All of Roy's sourspotted attacks make a punch/kick sound effect instead of a slashing sound effect.
**All of Roy's sourspotted attacks make a punch/kick sound effect instead of a slashing sound effect.
**Roy uses different voice clips when using battering items.
**Roy uses different voice clips when using battering items.
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[[Category:Characters (SSB4)]]
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[[Category:Roy (SSB4)]]
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[[Category:Downloadable content]]

Revision as of 15:31, July 26, 2016

This article is about Roy's appearance in Super Smash Bros. 4. For the character in other contexts, see Roy.
For information on the playable Koopaling, please see Bowser Jr. (SSB4).
Roy
in Super Smash Bros. 4
Roy SSB4.png
FireEmblemSymbol.svg
Universe Fire Emblem
Other playable appearance in Melee


Availability Downloadable
Final Smash Critical Hit
Tier F (32)
RoyHeadSSB4-U.png
Roy Seals the Deal!
—Introduction tagline

Roy (ロイ, Roy) is a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4. Initially leaked through data mining of the 1.0.6 update, Roy was formally revealed and released alongside Lucas and Ryu on June 14th, 2015, making him the third downloadable character released and the final downloadable veteran. Jun Fukuyama reprises his role as Roy's voice actor, as he both mimics some of his voice clips from Melee and provides some new ones.

Roy currently ranks 32nd on the SSB4 tier list, placing him at the top of the F tier and thus making him the highest ranking low-tier character. This is a substantial improvement from his previous placement in Melee, where he was ranked 20th out of 26. Roy has been refined and polished from Melee to provide a more defined playstyle and has been given new attributes and characteristics that complement them well. His ferocity can be attributed to his mobility, now among the best in the game with among the fastest ground and aerial speeds. But his biggest draw is his inverse tipper mechanic, which emphasizes the power of his sword attacks near the hilt of his blade and results in his sweetspotted attacks being relatively easy to land. His attacks also have relatively quick startup and terrific power overall, as the majority of them are capable of KOing at realistic percents.

However, Roy possesses many weaknesses, some being more noticeable than others. He suffers from a relatively poor neutral game, since he has very few safe approach options and lacks a projectile. His poor approach is due to the removal of wavedashing and L-canceling, and the weakening of dash-dancing from Melee, as well as his aerials still not autocancelling in a short hop, which leave his approaches predictable and punishable.

His combo game past low percents is poor, largely due to the high knockback of his moves when sweetspotted, preventing follow-ups, and the poor hitstun on his sourspots, enabling opponents to escape easily, meaning he cannot use his sourspots effectively to combo, unlike Marth. This results in him having risky KOing potential, as most of his finishers have high ending lag, and therefore easily punishable if whiffed, as he requires sweetspots and has almost no guaranteed setups into his KO moves. He is also an easy combo target himself, due to his falling speed and tall stature. Despite his high air speed, Roy's recovery is among the worst in the game, as Blazer is his only recovery option and only grants little distance.

Overall, Roy's position is under debate. Despite being slightly buffed in patch 1.1.4, many consider Roy's position to be too high and claim he is one of the worst characters in the game due to the severity of his flaws. There is credibility to such statements, as he has little to no tournament results apart from one dedicated player (Sethlon) who has earned below average results. Additionally, some characters ranked below him, such as Kirby, Mewtwo, Marth and Lucina have been largely buffed while Roy has not improved significantly from the game updates.

Attributes

Roy and Marth performing their forward smash attacks. Note that the sweetspot is highlighted by the trail left by their swords. Marth's Falchion's strongest part is at its tip while Roy's Sword of Seals' strongest part is at its hilt.

Roy's moveset design is mostly based off of his base character Marth, but with a number of differences and other fine components, the most notable of which is his inverse of Marth's tipper mechanic: his Sword of Seals deals more damage and knockback near its hilt and much less at the blade's tip compared to Marth's Falchion. Roy's attributes are also very different: he has better mobility overall, with an above average walking speed, a fast dashing speed, the fourth fastest air speed, and the fifth fastest falling speed, along with average weight. However, Roy is tied for the longest initial dash animation (17 frames), giving him a poor shield buffer out of his dash, and his air acceleration is among the worst in the game. In addition, many of his attack animations were changed from Melee and now properly align with their hitboxes. These changes have resulted in him becoming a near semi-clone of Marth rather than a true clone.

Roy's attributes give him a different playstyle from Marth. Roy's attacks generally have quick startup, and his high speed allows him to get in close to his opponent. His neutral aerial is perhaps his most versatile move. Its low startup, decent-lasting hitbox, and low landing lag make it an effective approach option, as well as a quick way to clear space, and it can start combos. His down tilt, with its quick startup, low ending lag, and deceptive range, is useful for poking at the opponent and pressuring shields. Once Roy finds an opening, he has several ways in which to rack up damage. His jab is quick and can easily lead into other moves, including his throws. His down and forward throws send opponents at favorable angles, and can combo into his neutral attack, dash attack, forward tilt, neutral aerial, and Double-Edge Dance. Roy's neutral aerial is also a great combo tool, complementing his high air speed by chaining into itself out of short hops and following up with his other aerials. His inversed sweetspot also helps with this. Since it is much larger than Marth's sweetspot, he on average gets much more damage from his combos than Marth, who requires careful spacing for the same effect. As such, Roy has an easier time closing in on the opponent and racking up damage compared to Marth.

Roy also boasts an array of KOing options, with almost all of his sweetspotted attacks capable of KOing below 130%. However, he does not suffer from the penalties other characters with powerful movesets have, namely the generally slow endlag of their moves. His attacks are also less polarizing than Marth's, as most of them include an additional hitbox in the center of the blade that is stronger than the sourspot but weaker than the sweetspot, and so Roy does not require precise spacing to reliably land a KO blow. While on the stage, his best KOing options are his forward tilt, forward smash, up tilt and Blazer, due to their fast startup and high power. Blazer is additionally an excellent out of shield option as it grants him super armor on startup. His disjointed hitboxes grant him an effective off-stage game as well. His forward and back aerials are quick, and cover wide arcs, and his down aerial is a moderately fast and powerful meteor smash. Flare Blade is deadly against opponents who try to sweetspot the ledge, courtesy of its charging ability, incredible power, huge hitbox, and deceptively low ending lag. And finally, his Counter scales with the power of the countered attack and can kill at absurdly early percents due to its higher multiplier than Marth's (dealing 1.35x the damage absorbed along with the flame effect), making it a feared finishing move if used properly. Roy's average weight and fast falling speed give him strong on-stage endurance, and he can make great use of rage, which further enhances the knockback of his already powerful moves.

However, Roy is held back by a large number of flaws. While his hilt mechanic is one of his greatest strengths, it also forces him to fight extremely close to his opponent in order to be utilized to its fullest. This is further compounded by his range being shorter than Marth's, but also results in a whiffed move on Roy's part leaving him heavily open to punishment. His moves have high ending lag, and so when combined with his need to fight close, Roy cannot space out his opponents as effectively as other sword characters, while also being unable to safely rush down his foes. He also suffers from a predictable approach despite his good mobility, since he has no quick options with which to close in and pressure the opponent outside of his neutral aerial, and this is made worse by his lack of a projectile. His high air speed is offset by his poor aerial acceleration, making his aerial approach highly committal in general, in a similar line to Ryu.

Roy's combo game functions slightly differently to Marth's, and excels and suffers in different areas; Roy's follow-ups at lower percents are generally better than Marth's, but due to Marth's sourspot having use for combos and Roy's not, Marth can combo a few moves together at mid/high-mid percents when Roy cannot. Like Marth's combo game, Roy's combo game has its flaws. Roy's moves have high ending lag, his down throw has low hitstun, and his forward throw follow-ups can be teched out of. His reverse tipper mechanic can hinder him here, as the sourspots of his sword strikes have rather low hitstun; his jab is the best example of this, as its sourspot has low hitstun while sending the opponent at a horizontal angle that is unfavorable for combos. These factors give Roy a relatively poor combo game past low percents and often force him to rely on reads for follow-ups, especially on floaty characters, and can give him trouble KOing despite his fearsome power, as outside the predictable first hit of his neutral aerial, he has no guaranteed setups into his KO moves.

Another of Roy's glaring flaws is his recovery. Though Blazer offers excellent protection, can be angled, and grants decent horizontal distance, it gives little vertical recovery. Combined with his high falling speed, this leaves him helpless against meteor smashes, and even a solid semi-spike can launch him too far away to recover. Additionally, players unaccustomed to his falling speed will quickly find that any misused aerial off-stage will send him too far off the stage to recover. These two flaws hinder his off stage and edgeguarding potential, making them average at best.

Roy's high falling speed leads to another problem: he is very susceptible to combos while onstage. This is exacerbated by his hilt mechanic, which forces him to fight very close to his opponents, offering them many opportunities to punish him should Roy mess up a desired attack. None of his moves are generally reliable enough to break combos, and thus many characters with reliable combo moves can rack up large amounts of damage and easily force him off-stage, where he could potentially lose his stock if dealt with accordingly (however, the high shieldstun on his sweetpsots makes it slightly harder to do if the opponent is shielding). Finally, due to his status as a DLC character, Roy does not have any custom moves, significantly limiting him in tournaments allowing custom specials; while this is a problem shared with other DLC characters, it affects Roy the most due to his weaknesses remaining intact, especially compared to the other DLC characters' weaknesses.

Overall, as in Melee, Roy's weaknesses still objectively outweigh his strengths. He boasts excellent speed and power, with a decent combo game and threatening finishers, but suffers from his own vulnerability to combos from several characters like Fox and Captain Falcon, as well as a poor recovery, predictable approach, difficulty KOing, and ironically short range for a swordsman, making him akin to a rush-down and/or glass cannon fighter archetypes. Despite initially being viewed as a viable high-tier character and possibly the best swordsman in the game, he has become infamous for having the worst tournament representation of all DLC characters, as well as one of the worst among the entire cast, as he has little to no use from professional players other than Sethlon and All Might, and thus lacks noteworthy results. However, Roy's standing relative to the cast is among the most contentious of all characters, as while some players believe he could have the potential to compete in tournaments, many others, such as Abadango and Dabuz state that he is still among the worst characters in the game. This highly contrasts the early views on his viability, as many people (including players like ZeRo) initially considered him a viable character. As such, Roy's placement remains a topic of significant debate among players.

Changes from Melee

Roy is one of the few characters to have received some of the most noticeable changes in his transition to SSB4 (alongside Charizard, King Dedede, Pit and fellow Melee veteran Dr. Mario), with several of his moves being de-cloned from Marth, to the point he is now considered a semi-clone rather than a full clone. Roy has also got a mix of buffs and nerfs in the transition to SSB4, despite being a low-tier character in Melee, though while he was objectively buffed overall, the changes to game physics and his other nerfs are enough to make up for the buffs he has received, making it hard to determine whether he was overall buffed or nerfed.

First of all, Roy has received several noticeable buffs. His mobility has been greatly improved, now having a faster dashing speed and one of the fastest air speeds in the game. His moveset is notably more rewarding than in Melee: most of his moves are different from Marth, such as his new neutral attack, forward and up tilts, dash attack and down aerial, all of which improve his up-close and combo games. His moves also deal more damage, and his sweetspotted attacks are considerably more powerful, which gives him many more KOing options, and generally alleviates his main weakness from Melee. His attack speed is overall faster, with his aerials in particular having significantly reduced ending and landing lag. As a result, his improved air game benefits his combo game. Lastly, the addition of rage, along with his heavier weight, boosts his KO power even further.

However, Roy has also received significant nerfs. Roy now stands at Marth's height, which increases his hurtbox, though despite this change, his attacks have much shorter reach and hitbox durations, forcing him to fight even closer to the opponent, exacerbating one of his other weaknesses in Melee. For the most part, Roy is also harmed by gameplay changes: the loss of wavedashing and L-canceling noticeably worsens his approach, along with the weakening of dash-dancing, and they also compound his decreased reach. Most characters have also had the reach on their attacks increased, like Donkey Kong, Bowser and Marth. Roy's already poor recovery has also been worsened: while his air speed is higher and his falling speed is slower, and despite Blazer granting more horizontal distance, it also covers less vertical distance, and Double-Edge Dance can no longer be used to slow his falling speed. And since the cast falls generally slower, Roy's slower falling speed does not really provide a noticeable benefit. Along with the removal of meteor cancelling and the improved recoveries of the rest of the cast, Roy is arguably easier to edgeguard than in Melee. Finally, despite the slower falling speeds in the game compared to Melee, Roy is still easy to combo, though since he is heavier than in Melee, as well as a large portion of the easier to combo characters falling slower or being lighter than him, he is now one of the easiest characters to combo in the game relative to the cast, while he still does not possess a reliable move to break a combo. As a result of the previous two changes, Roy is arguably frailer than in Melee, despite his stronger on-stage endurance.

Overall, Roy's strengths and weaknesses are more pronounced than in Melee. While his sweetspotted attacks are more rewarding, he has to fight even closer in order to rack up damage due to his decreased reach, while his sub-par survivability further compounds this issue. Due to this, it is difficult to say how much Roy has improved from Melee, if at all, considering most of his fellow veterans were also buffed to varying degrees.

Aesthetics

  • Change Roy's design is now a combination of his appearance as a Master Lord in Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade and his appearance as an Einherjar in Fire Emblem Awakening. He also has smaller eyes, a slightly more muscular physique, and slightly shorter hair.
  • Change The Sword of Seals's trail now clearly indicates its sweetspot, similarly to Marth's Falchion. In Roy's case, the Sword of Seals' sweetspot is near its hilt.
  • Change Most of Roy's sword swings aesthetically appear "heavier", as he now swings the Sword of Seals in a reverse grip or with both hands. As a result, Roy's Sword of Seals behaves like a heavier broadsword compared to Marth and Lucina's "lighter" Falchion and Parallel Falchion, which they appear to swing with less effort.
  • Change Jump, sidestep, and shield break animations have been changed.
  • Change Roy now has an on-screen appearance, where he arrives on via warp magic with the Sword of Seals stuck in the ground as he pulls it out.
  • Change Roy has completely unique idle poses, instead of having variants of Marth's, though he has the same stance as Marth while holding a light item.

Attributes

  • Change Roy is heavier (85 → 95), improving his endurance, but making him more susceptible to combos.
  • Nerf Roy walks slower (1.2 → 1.15).
  • Buff Roy dashes faster (1.61 → 1.95), giving him the eleventh fastest dashing speed in the game.
  • Buff Roy's air speed is faster (0.9 → 1.24), giving him the fourth fastest air speed in the game.
  • Change Roy falls slower (2.4 → 1.8), though he still has the fifth fastest falling speed in the game. Despite his slower falling speed, his aerials are still incapable of autocanceling from a short hop.
  • Nerf Due to the aforementioned alterations to his sword swings, many of Roy's attacks have altered hitbox placements compared to Marth's and smaller hitboxes.
  • Nerf Roy now stands at Marth's height, which makes his hurtbox bigger. Despite this, he still has less range than Marth due to altered hitbox placements.
  • Nerf The removal of wavedashing and the weakening of dash-dancing have hindered Roy's neutral and approach games.
  • Change The removal of chain grabbing both helps and hinders Roy. While it has hindered his damaging racking potential, it also means that he is no longer susceptible to being chain grabbed himself. Additionally, his high falling speed results in him no longer being susceptible to pseudo-chain grabs.

Ground attacks

  • Buff Roy has a new neutral attack, a reverse gripped upward slash. Compared to the previous neutral attack, it deals more damage (3%/5%/6% → 4.8%/7.5%/7.5%), has more base knockback (30/5 → 40/32), less ending lag (interruptibility frame 26 → 23) and it has a different angle (361° → 62°/32°), making it better for combos.
  • Nerf Neutral attack has increased startup and a shorter duration (frame 4-8 → 5-7) compared to the previous neutral attack.
  • Buff Roy has a new forward tilt, a reverse gripped inward slash. Compared to the previous forward tilt, it deals more damage (12%/10%/7% → 12.5%/9%/8%), has more knockback (60/30 (base)/70 (scaling) → 30/40 (base)/100/80 (scaling)), less start-up (frame 9 → 8) and less ending lag (interruptibility frame 40 → 32), making it better for KOing.
  • Nerf Forward tilt's hitbox duration is 2 frames shorter (5 frames → 3) compared to the previous forward tilt.
  • Buff Roy has a new up tilt, a reverse gripped overhead arcing slash. Compared to the previous up tilt, it deals more damage (6%/8%/9%/10% → 7%/12%), making it much stronger than the previous up tilt despite having less knockback scaling (120/118/116/100 → 103). It also has less startup (frame 7 → 6), less ending lag (interruptibility frame 40 → 39) and its sourspot has more base knockback (20 → 30).
  • Nerf Up tilt lasts 2 frames shorter (7 frames → 5) compared to the previous up tilt.
  • Nerf Sweetspotted down tilt deals 1% less damage (12% → 11%).
  • Buff Sourspotted down tilt deals 0.5% more damage (6% → 6.5%).
  • Buff Down tilt has faster startup (frame 8 → 7) and its angle has been altered (80° → 30°), granting it the ability to semi-spike and improving its edgeguarding and tech-chasing potentials.
  • Nerf Down tilt has decreased base knockback (90/70 → 50/40), increased ending lag (interruptibility frame 20 → 22) and its hitbox lasts 1 frame shorter (3 frames → 2). Additionally, its new angle has almost completely removed its combo potential.
  • Buff Roy has a new dash attack, an inward sweeping slash. Compared to the previous dash attack, it deals more damage (12%/6% → 13%/9%), has more knockback (70/35 (base)/55/60 (scaling) → 65/60 (base)/82/60 (scaling)) and its sweetspot has a different angle (110° → 52°), making it better for KOing.
  • Nerf Dash attack has more startup (frame 12 → 13) and ending lag (interruptibility frame 40 → 50) compared to the previous dash attack.
  • Buff Due to the damage multiplier for fully charged smash attacks being increased from Melee to SSB4 (1.3671x → 1.4x), fully charged forward and up smashes deal more damage (27.324%/16.4052% → 28%/16.8% (forward), 22.639176% → 23.8% (up)).
  • Nerf Roy has a new forward smash, a turning two-handed slice based on his regular attack animation as a Master Lord in The Binding Blade. Compared to the previous forward smash, its sweetspot has decreased base knockback (80 → 70) and it has a "medium-spot" that deals 3% less damage (20% → 17%), giving it a smaller sweetspot. Its also has more startup (frame 12 → 14), more ending lag (interruptibility frame 54 → 55), less vertical reach and its hitbox lasts 1 frame shorter.
  • Buff Forward smash has more knockback scaling (65 → 70), making it better at KOing compared to the previous forward smash.
  • Buff Due to the changes to stale move negation, up smash deals 0.44% more damage (16.56% → 17%). It also has decreased startup and a longer duration (frame 15-24 → 12-23) while its spike hitbox now properly keeps opponents in place for the other hits. Roy's arm is also intangible during the move.
  • Nerf Up smash has increased ending lag (interruptibility frame 46 → 59) and its last hit has decreased base knockback (73 → 70).
  • Change Up smash's animation has slightly changed. Roy leans further back and the Sword of Seals now emits fiery graphical effects and an explosion on the last hit.
  • Nerf Down smash's front hit deals less damage (21%/14% → 15%/10%). Both of its hits last 1 frame shorter (3 frames → 2).
  • Buff Down smash's back hit deals more damage (16%/8% → 17%/11%). It also has decreased ending lag (interruptibility frame 72 → 63) and its angles have been altered (75°/361° → 50°/47°/361°).
  • Change Down smash's knockback properties have been reversed, making the back hit being stronger than the front hit.

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have decreased ending lag (interruptibility frame 50 → 46 (neutral), 35 → 30 (forward), 43 → 36 (back), 49 → 42 (up), 64 → 52 (down)).
  • Nerf Due to the removal of L-canceling, all aerials' landing lag were not fully compensated and increased all of them as a result (20/10 (normal/L-canceled) → 11 (neutral), 20/10 → 13 (forward), 24/12 → 16 (back), 18/9 → 14 (back), 32/16 → 23 (down)), hindering his neutral game.
  • Buff Neutral, forward, back and down aerials deal more damage (4%, 8%/5% → 4%/6% (neutral), 8.5%/5%, 8%/5% → 11%/7% (forward), 9%/6% → 12%/9% (back), 6%/9% → 10%/15% (down)).
  • Nerf Neutral, forward, and up aerials autocancel later (frame 32 → 47 (neutral), frame 30 → 33 (forward), frame 30 → 38 (up)), with forward aerial no longer being able to autocancel at all.
  • Buff Neutral aerial's second hit has increased knockback scaling (80 → 100) and its angle has been altered (361° → 50°), improving its combo potential. Its hits also come out earlier (frame 7-8 → frame 6-7 (hit 1), frame 17-20 → frame 15-21 (hit 2)).
  • Buff Forward aerial deals more knockback (30/10 (base)/70 (scaling) → 50/80).
  • Nerf Forward aerial comes out later (frame 5 → 10).
  • Change Forward aerial's animation has slightly changed. Roy's legs are now positioned differently and he leans forward with his right side more exposed while he slashes.
  • Buff Back aerial has increased knockback scaling (70 → 100) and autocancels earlier (frame 34 → 32).
  • Buff Up aerial's hitbox lasts 2 frames longer (5 frames → 7 frames) and its sweetspot has increased knockback (20 (base)/70 (scaling) → 40/80), improving its juggling potential.
  • Buff Roy has a new down aerial, a two-handed takedown slash, similar to Ike's down aerial. Compared to the previous down aerial, it has longer vertical reach, its sweetspot is easier to land and its sourspot is able to KO grounded opponents around 160%, making it better at KOing. Its increased damage output and the removal of meteor canceling also make its meteor smash considerably stronger than the previous down aerial's.
  • Nerf Down aerial has decreased diagonal reach and comes out later with a shorter hitbox duration (frames 7-10 → 16-17) compared to the previous down aerial.
  • Change Down aerial has different knockback (40 (base)/70 (scaling) → 20/30 (base)/90 (scaling)) compared to the previous down aerial.

Throws/other attacks

  • Nerf All grabs have significantly decreased reach.
  • Buff Dash grab comes out 2 frames earlier (frame 10 → 8).
  • Nerf Pummel deals 1% less damage (3% → 2%).
  • Buff Pummel is faster.
  • Buff Up throw deals 1% more damage (5% → 6%).
  • Nerf Up throw has decreased knockback scaling (130 → 100), hindering its KO potential.
  • Nerf Down throw deals 1% less damage (6% → 5%).
  • Buff Down throw's angle has been altered (361° → 80°), improving its combo potential.
  • Buff Front and back floor attacks deal 1% more damage (6% → 7%).

Special moves

  • Buff Flare Blade has decreased ending lag. It can also be charged up to deal more damage before the full charge without receiving recoil damage (41% → 45%).
  • Nerf Flare Blade has increased startup, a shorter duration (frame 16-21 → 23-26), a smaller hitbox, and its takes slightly more time to fully charge. Additionally, it has received a sourspot at the edges of the attack that deals 15% less damage (50% → 35%) and significantly decreased knockback scaling (83 → 70).
  • Change Flare Blade has a different sound effect while charging. When fully charged, the sound vanishes before the move's explosion. All stages of the attack now unleash a minor explosion, with most of the higher stages unleashing the original large explosions from Melee. Its fiery effects are also more intense.
  • Buff Double-Edge Dance requires less technical precision. Aside from the first and fourth downward hits, every other hit has decreased startup. Double-Edge Dance's third downward input no longer consists of multiple hits and launches at a lower trajectory, improving its reliability to connect with the fourth hit.
  • Nerf Double-Edge Dance deals less damage, decreased knockback, has decreased vertical reach and increased ending lag. Its first hit no longer slows Roy's falling speed, removing recovery potential, while its third upward input is no longer a meteor smash, removing its KO potential.
  • Change Double-Edge Dance now has transcendent priority. This means it can no longer cancel non-transcendent projectiles, but improves its reliability at close range.
  • Change All variations of Double-Edge Dance's third hit have lost their KO potentials, but connect better into the fourth hit, improving their combo potentials.
  • Change Double-Edge Dance's animations have been changed. They now use Marth's Dancing Blade animations from Brawl.
  • Buff Blazer deals 2.82% more damage (13.18% → 16%), its last hit deals significantly more knockback (10 (base)/100 (scaling) → 40/130), and it has received lasting hitboxes near its peak, improving its KO potential. It has also received more intangible frames on start-up if used from the ground, improving its safety. Additionally, it now grants much more horizontal momentum near its peak, and can be tilted left or right before startup, improving its horizontal recovery potential.
  • Nerf Blazer covers less vertical distance, hindering its vertical recovery potential.
  • Change Blazer's first hit has significantly decreased set knockback (200 → 160/120). This allows every hit to connect together, but removes its ability to one-hit KO the lightest characters.
  • Change Blazer's animation has slightly changed. Roy now performs it while wielding the Sword of Seals in a reverse grip. Roy also has a new helpless animation upon using it.
  • Nerf Counter's multiplier has decreased (1.5x → 1.35x), slightly hindering its KO potential, though it is still among the strongest counterattacks in the game.
  • Buff Counter has received 7 more counter frames (13 frames → 19) and has increased knockback (30 (base)/90/70 (scaling) → 35 (base)/100/70 (scaling)), giving it KO potential when countering smash attacks at lower percents. The move's horizontal range is also longer.
  • Change Counter's animations have been changed. Roy's parrying stance now sees him hold his hand out and point the Sword of Seals downward instead of upward, while his counterattack is now a low-angled, one-handed outward slash.
  • Change Roy now has a Final Smash, Critical Hit. Unlike Marth's and Lucina's Critical Hits, which propel them at high speed in a straightforward line, Roy's Critical Hit is stationary and sees him swing the Sword of Seals around himself (which can trap opponents), before unleashing a short-ranged explosion in front of himself. Unlike Marth's and Lucina's Critical Hit, Roy's Critical Hit is not a one-hit KO.

Update history

Roy has been slightly buffed as of update 1.1.4. Update 1.1.0 gave Blazer additional hitboxes, making it easier to land. However, the same update reduced the damage outputs of its first and last hits, which slightly weakened its KO potential. The changes to shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 have made Roy's sweetspotted attacks much safer at the cost of his sourspotted attacks being less safe, to the point where his semi-clone, Lucina, has safer attacks than both him and Marth. Lastly and most prominently, 1.1.4 decreased the landing lag on all of his aerials and improved Double-Edge Dance's startup and ending lag.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.0

  • Buff Blazer has received additional hitboxes.
  • Nerf Blazer's first and last hits deal 1% less damage: 6%/5% (sweetspotted/sourspotted hit 1) → 5%/4%, 9%/8% (sweetspotted/sourspotted hit 5) → 8%/7%, hindering its KO potential.
  • Change Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DSRoy performs his down taunt instead of his fist pump idle pose after a player chooses a path in Classic Mode.

Super Smash Bros. 4 1.1.4

  • Buff Neutral aerial landing lag: 13 → 11
  • Buff Forward aerial landing lag: 15 → 13
  • Buff Up aerial landing lag: 16 → 14
  • Buff Back aerial landing lag: 19 → 16
  • Buff Down aerial landing lag: 28 → 23
  • Buff Double Edge Dance improved. The first hit hits one frame earlier (7 → 6), has one frame less of endlag both grounded and in the air (IASA: 42/32→ 41/31).


Moveset

  Name Damage Description
Neutral attack   7.5% (sweetspot), ≈4.65% (sourspot) A reversed gripped upward slash in a diagonal arc. Easily chains into itself, a grab, and forward tilt at low percents and his forward and up aerials at higher percents. A great spacing and combo tool and one of Roy's most versatile attacks.
Forward tilt   12.5% (sweetspot), 9% (near), 8% (far) A reverse gripped downward slash in a diagonal arc. Hits very hard for a tilt when sweetspotted, usually KOing around 120% from mid-stage, making it a viable KO option. However, it has noticeable ending lag, making it punishable even if shielded.
Up tilt   12% (sweetspot), 7% (sourspot) A reverse gripped, overhead arcing slash. Very strong like his forward tilt, usually KOing at around 110% sweetspotted. However, it has rather low horizontal range and high ending lag, which makes it very punishable on shield.
Down tilt   11% (sweetspot), 6.5% (sourspot) A crouching sword poke, similar to Marth's. Much weaker than Roy's other tilt attacks due to using the Sword of Seals' tip, but it has the lowest amount of ending lag and is good for edgeguarding or starting tech-chases.
Dash attack   13% (sweetspot), 9% (sourspot) A low-angle, inward horizontal slash. It has good KO potential for a dash attack, KOing when sweetspotted around 130%, however it has moderate startup and high ending lag, making it very unsafe on shield.
Forward smash   20% (close), 17% (mid), 12% (far) Rotates his body to perform a forward-leaning, two-handed downward crescent slice. It is one of the strongest forward smashes in the game if sweetspotted and has become somewhat infamous for KOing at percents as low as 40% with rage. It additionally has a decently large sweetspot, very long disjoint as Roy leans forward while performing it, and hits on frame 14-15, which is rather fast for a forward smash of its power. However, it has high ending lag and its hitbox does not last long, leaving him very vulnerable to attacks if the swing misses. The animation is taken from his regular attack as a Great Lord in The Binding Blade, to the point where the freeze frame upon hit has Roy modeled after the exact frame as the ending blow of said attack.
Up smash Flame Sword 1% (hit 1), 2% (hits 2-4), 10% (hit 5) An upward thrust, which results in the Sword of Seals' tip igniting and then exploding. Powerful enough to KO middleweights around 100% while uncharged. Good for juggling opponents in the air, as Roy's arm gains invincibility during the attack. If the initial rising stab connects, the attack's multiple hits are much slower than if the opponent is only caught in the explosion. If it hits someone that is not on the ground (with all hits), it does additional damage and knockback. High ending lag like his other smash attacks.
Down smash   15% (front, sweetspot), 17% (back, sweetspot) 10% (front, sourspot), 11% (back, sourspot) A sweeping slash toward the front outward then toward the back. Weaker than his other smash attacks, but it comes out the fastest, and is useful for punishing rolls. Can KO uncharged in the 120% range if sweetspotted with the front hit and around 100% sweetspotted with the back hit. However, while it has very quick startup, it has the longest ending lag of all his smashes making it extremely punishable when whiffed.
Neutral aerial   6%/4% (first hit, sweetspot/sourspot), 8.5%/5% (second hit, sweetspot/sourspot) An inward horizontal slash followed by a spinning, outward horizontal slash. The second hit is capable of attacking behind him. A useful spacing and combo option due to its quick startup and low landing lag.
Forward aerial   11%/7% (sweetspot/sourspot) Slashes forward in a diagonal arc. If sweetspotted, this move deals decent knockback which can KO opponents early near the edge. Good for air-to-air combat because of its low ending lag, but unsafe to overuse in the neutral game, as it has 13 frames of landing lag. However, it is possible to jump out of one from a short hop.
Back aerial   12%/9% (sweetspot/sourspot) Rotates his body to perform an upward swipe. Good KO potential when sweetspotted, and can get early KOs when used off-stage. Covers good vertical and horizontal range. Like with Marth and Lucina's back aerials, it has the interesting property of turning Roy around when used. It has 16 frames of landing lag.
Up aerial   9%/6% (sweetspot/sourspot) A backflipping, upward arcing slash. The weakest of Roy's aerials in terms of damage and knockback, making it suitable for juggling and/or combos.
Down aerial   15%/10% (sweetspot/sourspot) An overhead, downward two-handed takedown slash, similar to Ike's down aerial. Meteor smashes powerfully when hit with the Sword of Seals' hilt, while it launches opponents upward if not hit with the hilt. KOs around 130% when sweetspotted on-stage, but has considerable ending and landing lag.
Grab   Lunges and reaches out with his free hand.
Pummel   2% Knees the opponent. A fairly fast pummel.
Forward throw   5% A one-handed shove in front of him. Has low ending lag, allowing it to combo into a neutral attack or forward tilt at low percents and a dash attack at medium percents. It sometimes combos into up smash if the opponent does not react. Also works very well as a setup to his neutral aerial, which when hit, can extend into even more combos.
Back throw   5% Trips the opponent over his leg behind him. If the opponent does not expect it, this can lead into down aerial at low percents or a back aerial for a KO at high percents near the ledge, though the latter requires good timing.
Up throw   6% Flings the opponent upward with his free hand. His strongest throw, KOing at very high percents starting at 170%.
Down throw   5% A one-handed body slam. Good combo potential, as it launches the opponent directly above Roy. This is made better by the fact that it has low base knockback and low knockback growth. However, its hitstun is lackluster making it unreliable on floaty characters and other characters above low percents. True combos into Blazer on most characters until medium percents. At low percents it combos into up tilt, forward tilt, and neutral attack. If the opponent does not react, stringing a combo into neutral attack may lead into another grab.
Floor attack (front)   7% Slashes to the left and then the right as he gets up.
Floor attack (back)   7% Gets into a kneeling position and then does a spinning slice as he gets up.
Floor attack (trip)   5% Hops briskly to his feet then does a stab to the left and a slash to the right.
Edge attack   8% Does a handstand and flips himself onto the stage, then slashes horizontally to the right.
Neutral special Default Flare Blade 6%-45%, 50% (fully charged sweetspot), 36%( fully charged sourspot) Charges the Sword of Seals with flames, similarly to Ike's Eruption. It can be charged for a maximum of five seconds before unleashing an explosion, with the explosion's size growing as it charges. With high base knockback at almost all charge levels and very high knockback growth, a barely charged Flare Blade is one of Roy's most viable KOing options. Fully charged, it is capable of one-hit KOing every single character in the game, except Bowser and Shulk with Shield active, from the center of Final Destination. A fully charged explosion deals 10% recoil damage to Roy, however. Despite its power, the move has surprisingly little ending lag, with Roy being able to act out of it almost immediately. The attack also has a sourspot at the edges that deals much less damage and knockback and is not a OHKO, instead KOing at 41%. It is possibly Roy's best option to use to punish a dazed opponent because of its OHKO potential when fully charged, especially considering Roy's good shield pressuring capability.
Custom 1 N/A
Custom 2 N/A
Side special Default Double-Edge Dance 3%-5% (first hit), 2%-3% (second forward hit), 2%-3% (second upward hit), 1%-3% (second downward hit), 2%-3% (third forward hit), 3% (third upward hit), 4% (third downward hit), 6% (last forward hit), 5% (last upward hit), 2% (last downward hits 1-4), 6% (last downward hit 5) A combination of sword slashes, similarly to Marth and Lucina's Dancing Blade. The type of slashes can be influenced by directional inputs, the attacks being no different in animation from Marth and Lucina's, though the move's overall knockback is slightly stronger on Roy's end. The very last hit of each variation deals flame damage.
Custom 1 N/A
Custom 2 N/A
Up special Default Blazer 5%/4% (hit 1, sweetspotted/sourspotted), 1% (hits 2-4), 8%/7% (hit 5, sweetspotted/sourspotted) A jumping, reverse gripped fiery slash. Hits multiple times, which can also be angled diagonally. Grants super armor at the beginning of the move. If all of its hits connect, it KOs at around 110% on the ground. A viable out of shield or KOing option because of the super armor frames at the beginning of the move, but rather mediocre if used for recovery.
Custom 1 N/A
Custom 2 N/A
Down special Default Counter 1.35x (min 8%) Parries and then counterattacks against any incoming attacks with a fiery slash. Damage and knockback dealt scale on the move that is countered, with a damage multiplier of 1.35x. Roy may additionally yell "いまだ!" ("Now!") or "そこ!" ("There!") if successful.
Custom 1 N/A
Custom 2 N/A
Final Smash Critical Hit 1% (hits 1-10), 35% (last hit) Swings the Sword of Seals in a fully circular arc before slamming it downward, generating a powerful explosive slash that engulfs the attacked area in flames. Unlike Marth's and Lucina's Critical Hit, Roy's is not a one-hit KO. The circular trail can connect up to four times from the front; if the move is performed with an opponent behind Roy, it can hit up to ten times, which traps the opponent until the last slash is dealt.

On-screen appearance

  • Warps onto the stage using warp magic while crouching as the Sword of Seals is stuck in the ground when he appears, which he then pulls out before assuming his idle stance.
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Taunts

  • Up taunt: Triumphantly holds the Sword of Seals above his head pointing towards the side. Based on the cutscene illustration from The Binding Blade where Roy draws the Sword of Seals for the first time.
  • Side taunt: Winds back before posing, holding the Sword of Seals backhanded toward the screen while saying "僕 は 負けない!", which translates to "I won't lose!" This line was one of his victory quotes in Melee but was repurposed for this taunt.
  • Down taunt: Kneels and twirls the Sword of Seals behind him while yelling "Heee-ya!" This taunt returns from Melee and the yell is one of his attacking lines when using moves.
Up taunt Side taunt Down taunt
Roy's up taunt in Smash 4 Roy's side taunt in Smash 4 Roy's down taunt in Smash 4

Idle poses

  • Pumps his fist while grinning. While it looks like an idle animation, this is actually the end of his standing animation, and can be seen on the customization screen, unlike other idle poses.
  • Swipes his hand lightly against the Sword of Seals while holding it in front of himself.
Roy's first idle pose in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Roy's second idle pose in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.

Crowd cheer

English Japanese
Cheer
Description Roy's our Boy! Roy! Roy! Roy!
Pitch Female Female

Victory poses

This victory theme is a small orchestral cover from the title theme of the first Fire Emblem game, which has since become the main theme of the series.
  • Swipes the Sword of Seals once over his shoulder, then swipes it down and behind him while facing left, saying "真の戦いは、これからだ。", which translates to "The true battle, is yet to begin."
  • Spins the Sword of Seals one and a half times and then sheaths it, saying "苦しい戦いだった。", which translates to "It was a painful fight." Replaces his old victory animation from Melee, where he thrusted the Sword of Seals toward the ground.
  • Flourishes the Sword of Seals and poses with it by his side, saying "守るべきもののために、負けられない!", which is localized as "For those whom I must protect, I will not lose!"
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Roy
Roy, the main character of Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, returns for the first time since Melee! In The Binding Blade, Roy led the troops of Pherae into battle in his ailing father’s stead, and now he brings his speed and talent for short-range combat into this game. His sword, the Sword of Seals, is uniquely powerful at the base of the blade.
GB Advance: Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade
Roy (Alt)
Ntsc His sword, the Sword of Seals, is uniquely powerful at the base of the blade. Flare Blade creates an explosion in front of Roy that can be charged by holding down the button. Take care, though, because at the highest levels of charge, Roy himself will catch fire and take damage! His side special, Double-Edge Dance, changes for each strike after the first depending on whether you hold up or down while attacking.
Pal Flare Blade creates an explosion in front of Roy that can be charged by holding down the button. Take care, though, because at the highest levels of charge, Roy himself will catch fire and take damage! His side special, Double-Edge Dance, changes for each strike after the first depending on whether you hold up or down while attacking.
GB Advance: Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade
Critical Hit
Ntsc For Roy’s Final Smash, he traps enemies in a circular swing of the blade, brings it up behind him, and then, in a blast of fire, brings the blade down for a powerful finisher! The downward attack is powerful on its own but doesn’t have much range, so make sure you’re close enough to hit your enemies with the full combo and really seal their fate!
Pal For Roy’s Final Smash, he traps enemies in a circular swing of the blade, brings it up behind him, and then, in a blast of fire, brings the blade down for a powerful finisher! The downward attack is powerful on its own but doesn’t have much range, so make sure you’re close enough to hit your enemies with the full combo and really seal their fate!

Alternate costumes

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Trivia

  • Roy's pose in his official artwork is nearly identical to his Melee official artwork, as with Mewtwo.
  • Aspects of Roy's sound design carry over from Melee.
    • All of Roy's sourspotted attacks make a punch/kick sound effect instead of a slashing sound effect.
    • Roy uses different voice clips when using battering items.
    • When Roy is dizzy, his corresponding voice clip loops constantly instead of playing only once.
    • Roy uses more than one voice clip for his smash attacks.
    • Roy only has one voice clip for being KO'd.
  • Roy's up smash, Flame Sword, shares the same name as Mega Man's forward aerial.
  • Roy, Marth, and Cloud are the only characters to speak Japanese in every regional release of SSB4.
  • Roy is the only DLC character that does not possess a projectile attack.