Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.

This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

  • The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
  • Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
  • Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
  • Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
  • Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
  • You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
  • Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
  • Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
  • Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
  • The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
  • Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occured 100 rounds ago.
  • Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
  • In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
  • Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
  • Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
  • If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
  • And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

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Suggestions

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Trophy Tussle 1 vs. Trophy Tussle 2 vs. Trophy Tussle 3

The three events in Melee that award you with the trophy you just fought on. Which is the best? --174.59.4.202 11:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. I've always said that the best fights in the Smash Arena feature obscurities (One day, the Controls test stage will compete...) so this is in my tastes. ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 12:06, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Great suggestion here, the trophy tussles were interesting and unique events, played on stages you couldn't play elsewhere without hacking. Of course, people are going to oppose it due to their lack of familiarity with the trophy tussles :/ Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. I love fights like these. The underappreciated battles and things in the game. ReiDemon 22:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. I believe this suggestion merits support per the above comments. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. I actually like this. Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Oh suuureeee, 9_9 why not target smash lv 1 vs target smash lv 2?ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 12:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Just... wth?--PSIWolf (TCE) 13:06, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Um, what? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 13:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Just don't get it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. This is just like a Target Smash!! battle. In other words, per Lucasthefourth. --107.5.57.137 17:21, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Well I've never played Melee, and the event matches aren't exactly important. Mastersword (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  7. This really doesn't work well. Besides why the STAGES? Wouldn't a Goomba vs. (whatever Trophy Tussle 2 was, I forgot) vs. Majora's Mask be better (obviously, this is, in general, a terrible idea too)? --81.156.186.185 07:34, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Super Mushroom vs. Poison Mushroom

On one hand, you can make yourself giant with a Super Mushroom, and make them tiny with a Poison Mushroom. On the other, you can become smaller with a Poison Mushroom, and your foes can be bigger with the Super Mushroom. Which is more useful? Toa 95 (talk) 16:18, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Sounds good. Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 16:20, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Yeah, all right. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Beyond epic. --107.5.57.137 17:21, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. sweet ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 18:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. It's-a-me, Wolf, and I say YESH!--PSIWolf (TCE) 06:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. I dislike both items, but the concept is interesting. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. This would be especially appealing if the poison mushroom's colors matched its colors in All Stars and the Mario Party games that have the mushroom (or variants of it) available as an item. For those who don't know what those colors are: Purple and green. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Seems extremely biased.-Ivy73002MS.png 18:50, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. I hate getting poisoned. I love super mushrooms. This battle actually IS one-sided. --174.59.4.202 19:34, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Per Above ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 09:08, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Who the hell would vote poison mushroom? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 11:23, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. If this suggestion appeared in SA, I felt pity for Poison Mushroom 206.53.148.144 16:29, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. In some games like lets say being small can give you an advantage. In games like Brawl, well...
  7. One sided in my opinion Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 05:55, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Comments

  • Think about it this way. Would you rather you be big or your enemies be small? They can both have their advantages. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:06, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
Look at my vote. It explains why being bigger is better. Besides, if you didn't know anything about Brawl or Mario, and someone said asked if you would like a Super Mushroom or a Poison Mushroom, wouldn't you choose the Super Mushroom? Mastersword (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
EXACTLY what I thought when I first thought of this! Toa 95 (talk)
Me big because I have an advantage over all of my foes instead of just one. --174.59.4.202 19:05, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
"Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself." ReiDemon 19:07, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
This is me explaining how this fight is imbalanced, not voting. --174.59.4.202 19:51, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Meta Knight vs. Ike

I don't know if this is good or not. The lightest character vs the heaviest character who uses a sword. Who do you like better? ..... Naturaly PikachuHeadSSBB.png why? 20:02, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. I actually like this one. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 11:23, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. After seeing discussions over Ike beating MK on AiB, I'm actually enticed to say yes.-Ivy73002MS.png 20:40, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. They are kewl 206.53.148.209 03:31, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. Hey, look, two swordsmen. One's overrated for a reason and the other is overrated for no reason whatsoever! =D Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Sorry, I just don't see any other similarities other than "they wield swords". ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:08, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Per above. --174.59.4.202 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Just a little boring, sorry. ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. I really don't like it. Again, solar dragon said that the only similarities are that they both wield swords. In fact, they're VERY different swords. In fact, they're VERY different in appearance and fighting style. Not enough similarities. Mastersword (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Just doesn't appeal. --107.5.57.137 16:27, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

Comments

I knew this was a bad idea for sure, dispite being my first suggestion. ..... Naturaly PikachuHeadSSBB.png why? 09:10, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

LOL, all of the opposing post said that theres not enough similarities. ..... I think so.... WolfHeadSSBB.png S454 10:21, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Squirtle vs. Koopa Troopa

The two small turtle-like characters face off. Both are able to retreat into their shells and move around like that but who is the best? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:13, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. There's been Ice Climbers vs. Hammer Bro before. I love Koopa Troopas, and there'd be no better opponent for them than Squirtle. ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. looking at DP99's post, I almost wanted to oppose. But if I think again, koopa and squirtle are both from popular series, which might be interesting ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 23:46, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Two turtle-like creatures who have been in their own highly-successful series from the beginning. I think they have more similarities than people think. Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. YES! --107.5.57.137 16:27, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. One is a playable character in Brawl. One only shows in SSE and Adventure. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 21:30, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. Per above. --174.59.4.202 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Above.--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 05:05, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

  • It's a popularity contest. Also, Squirtle can be KOd by Koopa. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:13, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

All SSBB Bosses vs. All Brawl Fighters

An epic battle between the bosses in the SSBB boss battles(including Crazy Hand) and the legal playable Brawl characters!Will the brawlers get crushed,or will the bosses fall?99.111.204.97 20:34, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Interesting idea... ReiDemon 20:46, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. :D ..... I think so.... PikachuHeadSSBB.png S454 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. Too many characters. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:41, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  2. I'm not sure if my crappy computer would even be able to load the page. NO WAY. WAY too many characters. --174.59.4.202 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  3. Essentially just "boss or playable character", which is all just far too generic. Be specific, don't just throw two types of characters at each other with no reason. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  4. 12 characters in Round 64 was already enough, but this is nearly 50 characters battling. We don't even have 50 regularly active users. Even if you narrow it down to only Brawl newcommers, that is still 23 different guys fighting. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  5. This is the worst suggestion I have ever seen. Are you trying to be funny? In the words of the great James Rolfe, "I don't get it." ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 23:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  6. Per all. Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 23:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  7. SA page would be screwed up I guess...--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 05:05, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
  8. Drawing a reason to support either furing the fight would be hard, too many subcategories within each option. ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
  9. EXACTLY what SolarDragon said. 37 fighters vs 10 bosses (11 including Giga Bowser/Koopa)? Seriously? Ridiculous. --81.156.186.185 07:34, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  10. Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  11. *spits out the juice in his mouth* --107.5.57.137 16:27, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

Comments

This is a popularity contest remember? Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 20:37, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

@Anon and IP 174: This person isn't suggesting all bosses and playable characters going individually, but rather the bosses against the playable characters. Still a poor suggestion nonetheless though. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:16, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Dragoon Parts vs. Smash Ball

Normally you'd think that the Smash Ball is superior for sure, but the Dragoon Parts can be very accurate, and are pretty cool. However, you still need to collect all three pieces. The Smash ball, of course is very cool, but for some characters, it has downsides, ie Marth, and some characters don't have very good smashes, like Peach. What do you think? Mastersword (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

Support

  1. Yeah, sure ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God!Lucas alive.PNG 02:48, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. Yeah, as long as the description is more along the lines of 'the ultimate items of Brawl', rather than than complicated and hard to understand piece of text that's there now. ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 14:47, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. Dragoon kinda feels like a different final smash everyone can use. --174.59.4.202 15:23, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  4. Fairly interesting idea, IMO. Squishyfrog Chat 12:27, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
  5. Eh, whatever. --107.5.57.137 16:27, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

  1. I just really do not get this. What? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:05, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  2. What SD said tbh. Plus now that the queue is full with suggestions hopefully much better than this... ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 21:23, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
  3. One is an OHKO (is it?), and another one is NOT always an OHKO Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 10:50, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Just a question, after a suggestion has been posted, about how long would it take before it gets used? (if it was be used.) ToastUltimatum A transparent image of Swadloon for my sig.Complaints Box 17:19, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

Anywhere from a week to months. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:24, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

It depends. I tend to try to space out fights of the same type (so we wouldn't have for example two stage fights in a row), while sometimes reserving stranger bouts for multiples of five. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Celeritous 18:29, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

OK, if you're confused, let's just say that the best items in brawl are versing each other, like what ToastUltimatum said. Mastersword (talk) 03:56, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

@KtA: Yes. --107.5.57.137 16:27, 16 September 2011 (EDT)