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Round 146: Mites vs. Pikmin

		Winner!! Pikmin File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg 11 to 22		File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg
Miniature minions whose main ability is expendability. Which disposable division of various hues will overwhelm the other?
Votes for Mites The Cheese says: I just like them better. The Cheese 11:22, 14 July 2012 (EDT) More of them. And they're two-dimensional. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 11:31, 14 July 2012 (EDT) How epic. ShupaRoeh 12:29, 14 July 2012 (EDT) These guys are a LOT harder than they look.174.30.216.29 12:46, 14 July 2012 (EDT) I hate Olimar.94.234.170.12 13:08, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Olimar is the worst character besides Jigglypuff.Shanicpower Make it rain! 13:23, 14 July 2012 (EDT) --Bandit 15:23, 15 July 2012 (EDT) They have a larger amount of their species than pikmins. The Awesome 13:07, 16 July 2012 (EDT) I quote Ai No Uta. 'Once again today we will fight, multiply, and GET EATEN.' Wow. Just wow. They are happy being eaten!? Plus, I absolutely HATE Olimar. Davsto (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2012 (EDT) What would you prefer to be, lunch or 2-D? You got PWN'D by Link that guy in the tunic 16:41, 19 July 2012 (EDT) Pikmin can't do anything by themselves.DarkVexon (talk) 15:06, 20 July 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Pikmin Because Pikmin. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:39, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Dots You can call me Pollyanna 12:19, 14 July 2012 (EDT) They turn into ghosts when they die. 123JamesHeart 12:46, 14 July 2012 (EDT) They are cute, fierce, and are always loyal to Olimar. Shanderu 14:05, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Just to even things out a bit more. 204.191.141.133 14:34, 14 July 2012 (EDT) THE RAINBOW OF BRAWL: PIKMIN LightningBlue 19:06, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Not as irritating Krazy4Krash (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2012 (EDT) They come with a character. Naked Snake 22:36, 14 July 2012 (EDT) I absolutely love the Pikmin series and have fun playing as Olimar. Mites on the other hand are just plain annoying and basic. 110.174.90.69 23:39, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Mites exceed in doing pretty much nothing at all. Captain Falcon talk 02:47, 15 July 2012 (EDT) "引っこ拔かれて， あなただけについて行く 今日も運ぶ， 戰う， 增える， そして食べられる" -Ai No Uta AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 08:58, 15 July 2012 (EDT) I have never seen 100 mites on any screen at the same time. I have with pikmin. In Brawl, you need about twenty mites to be significant. You only need 1 pikmin.ScoreCounter (talk) 14:10, 15 July 2012 (EDT) They're playable. 24.168.107.113 09:40, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Olimar is the best character in Brawl besides Meta Knight. Toast ltimatum 12:17, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Though I personally disagree with Toast because everyone's good at different characters, Olimar and his Pikmin are pretty high up there.71.55.131.253 15:22, 16 July 2012 (EDT)BK I really think the pikmin flourish when in battle, and that's why they get my vote. Sonicsidekick95 19:25, 16 July 2012 (EDT) Pikmin all the way. 67.173.145.76 21:54, 17 July 2012 (EDT) Pikmin do more damage. --Baboomba! talk 17:20, 18 July 2012 (EDT) A bigger variety that will become even bigger in Pikmin 3. Toadat9021doh (talk) 21:06, 19 July 2012 (EDT) The Pikmin are much cooler, have interesting elemental effects, and are not nearly as annoying as the Mites, whose sheer numbers (especially with the help of Subspace Generators) can make parts of the Subspace Emissary a bit frustrating to get through. Not to mention that they help Captain Olimar a whole lot during fighting/combat situations and adventuring. Fenyx4 (talk) 22:07, 19 July 2012 (EDT) Mites are annoying, but Pikmin aren't.--71.118.245.82 14:49, 20 July 2012 (EDT) Half-votes Mites are SO 2-dimensional (GET IT??) Plus, they don't have a series named after them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSB Brawler (talk • contribs) 10:38, 15 July 2012 Pikmins are cool!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:67.68.40.58 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 20 July 2012
Comments Y U Guys hate Olimar? LightningBlue 19:07, 14 July 2012 (EDT) I'm not really allowed to be critical towards one particular vote, but "Olimar is the worst character besides Jigglypuff" is just plain wrong. Shanicpower, you should get Wi-Fi so I can wreck you with my main, that being Olimar. Toast ltimatum 19:18, 14 July 2012 (EDT) OK Let's cut to the chase. ShupaRoeh 20:04, 14 July 2012 (EDT) I don't like to use Olimar, but there's a difference between not liking a character and thinking a character is terrible. Naked Snake 22:36, 14 July 2012 (EDT) Toast, I'm really, really sorry if I offended you and seeing what you have achieved I believe you are pretty skilled with Olimar. Yes, I would probably be punished if I faced you online. It's just... I'm not good at all with Olimar. I get pawned by level 2 CPU's when I'm using him. As I said, I'm very sorry if I offended you. Shanicpower Make it rain! 03:16, 15 July 2012 (EDT) Its ok, we understand you. Some people like Olimar and some people dislike Olimar. Its ok to have that opinion. But I will have to disagree that Olimar sucks though because he is 2nd on the tier list. But like I said, some people are anti tiers. :P Dots The Hammer (bro) 17:21, 15 July 2012 (EDT) Because tiers are for que *shot*. But seriously, you have underestimated Olimar's power. F1reBurn1ng (talk) 02:02, 16 July 2012 (EDT) AirConditioner, do you really know Japanese??? The Awesome 13:33, 18 July 2012 (EDT) Hell no. I just copied and pasted a random line from the song. :) AirConditioner File:Accoolx.png 19:24, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

Round 147: Break the Targets vs. Board the Platforms

		Winner!! Break the Targets 18 to 13
The two original bonus rounds that test characters' mobility and accuracy. Is attacking or jumping the more favoured pastime?
Votes for Break the Targets Tries to jump on platform. D'oh I missed! You don't d'oh miss as much here. ShupaRoeh 11:23, 21 July 2012 (EDT) The targets don't move at a ridiculous speed like the platforms do. Toadat9021doh (talk) 12:01, 21 July 2012 (EDT) 目標を破る ! Smash Master 12:14, 21 July 2012 (EDT) Tough choice, but I choose Break the Targets becuase it's lasted. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 12:33, 21 July 2012 (EDT) Board the Platforms is boring. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 14:07, 21 July 2012 (EDT) I haven't played the original, at least not enough to remember "Board the Platforms." JamesHeartless 23:55, 21 July 2012 (EDT) I think the fact that this has lasted through the series shows its superiority. Krazy4Krash (talk) 06:31, 22 July 2012 (EDT) I wish they would bring back character specific bonus games. This is a hard call but I'm going with Break The Targets. ChuckNorris 13:36, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Target test seems to test the character attributes more. Mr. Anontalk 18:53, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Young Link's target test. Pure genius. LightningBlue 21:50, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Just more interesting IMO. Naked Snake 02:10, 23 July 2012 (EDT) I like the creativity of many of the Break the Targets stages. However, having five difficulty levels in Brawl would have been creative if not for the fact that everyone is stuck with the same five stages. And I hope that Board the Platforms returns in SSB4. RickTommy (talk) 02:23, 23 July 2012 (EDT) Personally, I prefer Break the Targets because I believe that it provides a better challenge. FishPlay (talk) 22:54, 26 July 2012 (EDT) Break The Targets/Target Test just seems more...complete-able. Board The Platforms is fun, although certain Platforms can get really irritating to get to, like the last really far one on Jigglypuff's Targest Test stage in Super Smash Bros. 64. Also, completions of Break The Targets tend to be a bit cooler, since you have a myriad of options of how to destroy each target, and numerous strategies can result in fast WTF-completion time records. Exhibit A. Exhibit B. With the platforms, you're usually limited to whatever few jumps your character possesses. Finally, "Break The Targets" has had the most longevity in the series, having been featured in every single Smash Bros. game to date. Nevertheless, I hope both modes return in SSB4. Last but not least, Pause Abuse, anyone? Fenyx4 (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Ooh, this is hard. Although this may be biased, as I haven't played BTD, I find that it only requires movement skill, whereas this requires attacking skill, even if there is a little less movement skill. Davsto (talk) 11:33, 25 July 2012 (EDT) This was difficult, but I found I enjoyed breaking targets more than boarding platforms despite the latter being short-lived. It's not as tedious. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 17:45, 25 July 2012 (EDT) I hate the other one, wish they just board it up. So much "ARGH I MISSED" moment and then plat ! Turning me into some weird goop form and then I precede to rage, and dive off the stage. 208.54.38.179 23:44, 26 July 2012 (EDT) Half-votes The Targets has stood out more than Board the Platforms. Plus, it takes less time and more risks for taking the targets out than the platforms.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 21:56, 21 July 2012 (EDT) Never played SSB, so while I may be the target of hate from people who voted for the other side... Hate to break it to you, Board-the-Platform likers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Air Conditioner (talk • contribs) 8:46, 22 July 2012			Votes for Board the Platforms I like it when the lights turn bright blue after you land on them :p--Bandit 12:30, 21 July 2012 (EDT) I want to see this come back in the next game. 66.222.169.214 13:08, 21 July 2012 (EDT) --Havoc48 >:D!!! 13:11, 21 July 2012 (EDT) The Cheese says: I wish they would bring this back... The Cheese 14:35, 21 July 2012 (EDT) Bleh. I like both of them, so BTP gets my vote because it has less of them. 24.168.107.113 20:30, 21 July 2012 (EDT) I like to board the platforms!!! The Awesome 23:02, 21 July 2012 (EDT) Tough choice, but ultimately I choose Board the Platforms since I miss it being in the other games. 110.174.90.69 01:47, 22 July 2012 (EDT) I'm not board by either of these, but what Bandit said sums everything up. Toast ltimatum 08:05, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Board the platforms has more platforms. R.O.BitySonic (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2012 (EDT) I missed this minigame. :( Dots The Hammer (bro) 13:25, 22 July 2012 (EDT) Such fun memories of this mini-game. =] 67.173.145.76 13:00, 25 July 2012 (EDT) An underrated minigame, should have been used more often.ScoreCounter (talk) 07:06, 26 July 2012 (EDT) Half-votes The Board the Platforms is one of my favorite mini-games of SSB 64. Because it a challenge to get all of the platforms. Please bring the mini-game back in SSB4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smash x 5432 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 24 July 2012‎ Board the Platforms is better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:98.14.47.136 (talk • contribs)
Comments To AC:You already broke it for us. ShupaRoeh 12:50, 22 July 2012 (EDT) In reference to ShupaRoeh's vote: Not funny. RickTommy (talk) 02:23, 23 July 2012 (EDT) You're just making me feel like SmashPeter. Not funny. ShupaRoeh 09:59, 23 July 2012 (EDT) Well, ShupaRoeh's comment does have truth to it. Those "D'oh; I missed" Platform-missing moments can get irritating as heck - more so than missing Targets. XD Fenyx4 (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Was this a suggestion??? The Awesome 12:24, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Yes it was. 66.222.169.214 12:30, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Nice puns, ShupaRoeh and AirConditioning. Also, methinks that Race to the Finish could have used some love here (in a three-way match). Fenyx4 (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Thanks for ignoring that stickler RickTommy. What about ToastUltimatum's pun? ShupaRoeh 23:26, 24 July 2012 (EDT) Hey can anyone help? My comment (last one on the break the targets side) is off a bit. Can anyone help? 208.54.38.179 23:49, 26 July 2012 (EDT) Accidental tap of the "Enter" key, I guess. JamesHeartless 23:53, 26 July 2012 (EDT)

Round 148: Torchic vs. Piplup

		Winner!! Piplup 14 to 22
A bout between two common Pokéball Pokémon: both birds that cover their immediate area in trapping hitboxes, but controlling vastly different elements. Which peeper prevails?
Votes for Torchic Even though there's the type disadvantage and all, purely talking about their SSBB abilities I prefer Torchic since it actually attacks pretty much instantly after being released from the Poke Ball, unlike Piplup. 110.174.90.69 00:06, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I don't play with Pokeballs on, but to me a fire attack makes more sense that a water one. Naked Snake 00:31, 28 July 2012 (EDT) The Cheese says: Fire RUELS! The Cheese 00:34, 28 July 2012 (EDT) So tough to decide! I'm probably going to go with Torchic, though. I always mimic its voice when released. Too cute. Krazy4Krash (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Blaziken was awesome back when the Fire/Fighting starter WASN'T completely overused. 24.168.107.113 10:46, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I like fire better--Bandit 11:51, 28 July 2012 (EDT) While I would normally support the water type, I do like the look of Torchic more. Plus I've never played past generation III. JamesHeartless 13:14, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Does more damage and knockback.--71.160.242.60 19:36, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I have a history with Torchics. I first got one as my starter in Emerald and nicknamed it Fireballs. After beating the game with it, I wanted to play through Emerald again with all three starters, so I got Fireballs to produce two children, one called FireballJr, the other without a name. One was then used on Emerald, while the other was used on a friend's playthrough of FireRed. At a later date, both Fireballs and FireballJr were migrated to Black, where FireballJr then had a son of its own after falling in love with a nice Leafeon, called FireballIV, also making Fireballs a Grandfather, and Ditto a Grandmother. Unnamed Torchic is yet to find itself a partner, but maybe one day, the family will expand even further. Toast ltimatum 20:02, 28 July 2012 (EDT) This is the starter that I used for my favorite Pokemon game, Emerald. Stranger 1260 09:55, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Torchic actually does damage,Piplup doesn't.--DarkVexon (talk) 20:22, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup is easy to avoid, and Torchic is better to knock into. I have had both Pokemon in their games, but, not suprisingly, I've Torchic longer and Blaziken is great. Floor2000x (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2012 (EDT) Torchic's cuter, and has a much better evolution. The White Blur , the Whitest Thing Alive. Torchic does way more damage and has a good chance of KOing opponents. It also stays in one spot, and you can push opponents to it, unlike Piplup, where you can just jump over it easily.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:13, 2 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Piplup Can PWN Torchic easily. ShupaRoeh 23:59, 27 July 2012 (EDT) Well despite the type advantage, I prefer Piplup because every time it gets called out it just shoves me off the stage. While with Torchic I can escape and continue fighting against my enemy's. Headmaster Hand (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I just like the idea of Piplup killing itself;) FishPlay (talk) 02:05, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Another tough one. Piplup's evolution line is better. Don't get me wrong Blaziken is one of my favorite fighting types, but Empoleon is [literally] much cooler. His typing is unique and he has an imperial look, which earns it points. Therefore, Piplup has my vote. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 04:29, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup can easily knock out characters once they get trapped!!! The Awesome 10:39, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Piplup can drag you to your doom! 204.191.139.10 10:41, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Many reasons: Its actually pretty easy to avoid Torchic's attack, Piplup can actually do a suicide KO even if the opponents damage % is low. And even though Blaziken would be better than Empoleon, Penguins are my favorite animal. And lastly, Water does super effect Fire. Dots The PSI Asian 11:48, 28 July 2012 (EDT) It doesn't work half of the time, but when it does... --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 15:04, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Just look at my signature and tell me what my favorite starter is. :| Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 17:00, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I like his water attack. R.O.BitySonic (talk) 18:28, 28 July 2012 (EDT) Looks like a penguin. That is all.94.15.11.116 07:06, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I would say two points. One, it is generally more useful. True, it's inaccurate due to a slow start up, but if it hits is does a little damage and uncommonly KOs on regular stages and almost always does so on walk-off-blast-line stages. Two, it's a penguin, and a cute penguin at that. True, in the Pokémon series Blaziken is more useful than Empoleon, but Piplup trumps Torchic in both Pokémon AND Brawl. Davsto (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I love watching Piplup surf back and forth in a walled-in area. Toadat9021doh (talk) 14:03, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Puplup is more useful than Torchic, 'cause it drags the opponents to their doom. Smash Master 14:18, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Type advantage. Type advantage. LightningBlue 15:53, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Per LightningBlue and his new sig. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 16:01, 29 July 2012 (EDT) I LOVE PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are cute and fluffy and Piplup is no exception. Oh, and Piplup can talk too. ChuckNorris 12:09, 31 July 2012 (EDT) I would say exactly the same thing as AirConditioner if I had an Empoleon sig.--Shanicpower Make it rain! 12:43, 31 July 2012 (EDT)Piplup's my favorite too... Water > Fire. 67.173.145.76 20:16, 1 August 2012 (EDT) My first pokemon game was Diamond. My mom started it, chose Piplup and gave it a stupid nickname. DragonMistress (talk) 14:31, 2 August 2012 (EDT)DragonMistress 20:30, 2 August 1012 64.130.180.158 15:55, 2 August 2012 (EDT) Water beats fire. Cherrim98Talk 23:07, 3 August 2012 (EDT) Thats right im back!
Comments ShupaRoeh you didn't put the # next to your comment. Headmaster Hand (talk) 00:19, 28 July 2012 (EDT) I would fix it, but something else did. ShupaRoeh 10:23, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Oh my gosh!!!!! Toast didn't make a pun! There was plenty of ideals, and he didn't use any. Wow. Davsto (talk) 13:10, 29 July 2012 (EDT) Stop posting comments that attract your attention. ShupaRoeh 13:13, 29 July 2012 (EDT)