Forum:Zeldasmash's new SSBM Tier List
This is Zeldasmash's and Doc King's opinions for the upcoming 10th SSBM Tier List. Doc King has recently discovered that the MBR is going to make a new and updated tier list on a YouTube video.So we would like you all to give your full opinions on the tier list, where someone should be, etc.
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Videos
Here are some videos that you can look at to make up your mind about the new tier list! Doc King (talk) 01:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
Are you truly serious and unbiased about these two?
As much as I loathe Peach, I don't see how a character who had the tournament success that she had would drop from 5th to last. I also don't see how Mewtwo can go from 24th up to 10th on the tier list without any notable tournament success. Your video does not prove that Metwo is not bottom tier. One match alone does not show how good a character truly is. Omega Tyrant 
02:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- We think that Mewtwo is a good character and he has a good chain grab ability which can help him keep up with other characters including the fast fallers (which include the the Top 5 and Roy). Zeldasmash (talk) 02:53, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Why is Fox #1?! Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the recovery tier list!Mr. Anon teh awsome 02:56, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Have you guys forgotten how light Mewtwo is despite being one of the largest characters in the game? Have you also forgotten the KO problems that he has? Also, Mewtwo chain throwing ability is far from being good enough to make up for these massive weaknesses. I do not want to get in a dispute about tier positions, but I do not see how character consistently in the bottom five would suddenly rise to the high tier in the #10 spot. Omega Tyrant
03:01, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Now wait, while I don't think Mewtwo should be that high, floatyness is not necessarily a bad thing. Floatyness makes a character harder to chain grab, and makes a character have a better recovery. While Mewtwo is suseptable to juggling, his up special, air dodge, and nair can protect him from that. As for Koing, Mewtwo has his throws and his down smash. Up smash is very usefull for racking up damage, and dair is a meteor smash. Shadowball is a powerful projectile, ans Confusion can stop opponents from recovering. Mr. Anon teh awsome 03:18, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Anon, the first part of your speech is fine but the rest needs some work. The hard thing about throwing is that you can't grab in midair. His d-smash can easily be dodged, and his u-smash can easily be escaped from, leaving Mewtwo vulnerable. His d-air is pretty hard to land correctly. Shadow Ball isn't a reliable kill move and for Confusion to work you have to be in front of the opponent.-Ivy73
03:50, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Anon, the first part of your speech is fine but the rest needs some work. The hard thing about throwing is that you can't grab in midair. His d-smash can easily be dodged, and his u-smash can easily be escaped from, leaving Mewtwo vulnerable. His d-air is pretty hard to land correctly. Shadow Ball isn't a reliable kill move and for Confusion to work you have to be in front of the opponent.-Ivy73
- While floatiness necessarily is not a bad thing, Mewtwo's large size still makes him vulnerable to combos and more importantly, causes him to get KO'd vertically at pathetically low percentages. As for juggling, his nair has very short reach, so it will not protect him from juggling moves that have good reach, such as Marth's fair and uair or Ganodorf's uair. For his KO moves, like I pointed out to you before, they all have problems. His throws tend to be situational. His up throw is ineffective against the prominent fast fallers. It is incapable of KOing Fox, Falco, and Captain Falcon under 150%. As for his back throw, he has to be near the edge for it to have strong KO power. Otherwise, it is not fully reliable. As for his down smash, it is one of the slowest down smashes, have poor reach, and it strikes one side. His dair is a weak to moderate meteor smash that is slow, has a small hitbox, and is difficult to land. I don't know where you got the idea that Confusion can stop recoveries, but it certainly does not. Now for Shadow Ball, while it is strong enough to KO under 100%, it is a rather slow projectile and it is rather predictable. Omega Tyrant 03:52, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
- While floatiness necessarily is not a bad thing, Mewtwo's large size still makes him vulnerable to combos and more importantly, causes him to get KO'd vertically at pathetically low percentages. As for juggling, his nair has very short reach, so it will not protect him from juggling moves that have good reach, such as Marth's fair and uair or Ganodorf's uair. For his KO moves, like I pointed out to you before, they all have problems. His throws tend to be situational. His up throw is ineffective against the prominent fast fallers. It is incapable of KOing Fox, Falco, and Captain Falcon under 150%. As for his back throw, he has to be near the edge for it to have strong KO power. Otherwise, it is not fully reliable. As for his down smash, it is one of the slowest down smashes, have poor reach, and it strikes one side. His dair is a weak to moderate meteor smash that is slow, has a small hitbox, and is difficult to land. I don't know where you got the idea that Confusion can stop recoveries, but it certainly does not. Now for Shadow Ball, while it is strong enough to KO under 100%, it is a rather slow projectile and it is rather predictable. Omega Tyrant
What the heck are you talking about?
Exactly where in that video in the top post do you see anything about a new tier list? I watched it (good match) but didn't see anything about a new tier list. Was it in a comment? If so, we should still verify it through SmashBoards as I've never before heard of them posting on Youtube before SmashBoards... Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:41, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
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The list itself has incorrect link, and how is Pichu NOT THE WORSE?!?--MegaTron1XD
06:00, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
