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 ::What circular reasoning? My god, how hard is it to understand that tournament results indisputably and quite literally indicate the skill level of the player? If ZeRo consistently gets the best results out of Diddy, then it clearly can be said that he has the best Diddy. You have no credible argument here and quite frankly, you are beginning to sound ridiculous. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:39, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
 ::Yesterday, via Discord, Omega Tyrant asked me why did I consider you a bigot. I think it is now clear why. And the supposed "fact" you say is easily overriden by OUR "fact", and ours is also backed by what the community says. If you don't love Zinoto, then okay, I get it. But, the thing is that the metagame does run by the pre-determined rules: without items, only in stages without a large hazard. No matter how you see it, match-ups are always the same on those stages. Also, at this point I'm no longer implying crap about what I said. Because it is clear you are what I said you were acting like: '''a bigot'''. Buzz off. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 18:48, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
+::"''I'll end my side of the conversation with this (as the entire thread went downhill to the unproductive as soon as someone said the non-argument I'm "arguing for the sake of being difficult with us and wasting our time")''"
+::I will ask again, where is there any sort of serious contingent in the community that actually argues Zero is not the best Diddy? The questionable quality of your arguments aside, your claim is an extremely fringe one at best, that your pushing of and ignoring factual standards of (e.g. results) makes you come off as someone being contrarian for the sake of argument, which this perception is not helped by your immediate prior argument on the tier list talk page.
+::"''The metagame and the competitive scene does not run by rules the universe pre-determined. They were constructed by us humans as players. This is turn invalidates claims that "oh, this is an undeniable universal fact because results because they are fact" as this is circular reasoning. We're not computers.''"
+::And under the rules of competition set up, who wins more? In what sort of head-to-head competition anywhere, is the player who has the ability to win more often under equal standing is not the better player? How does a player win more often if they're not the better player, when in order to win, you have to outplay the opponent, which means playing the game better than them and thus being the better player? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:06, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
 ==We should mention this page was mentioned/featured in a news article==
 The gaming magazine [http://compete.kotaku.com/a-southern-california-tournament-curse-plagues-top-smas-1793909897 Kokatu references this page] when referring to {{Sm| ZeRo}}'s all-time lowest placing. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Press_coverage Wikipedia does something similar] by mentioning the news articles that involve Wikipedia in the respective talk pages. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 19:22, 3 April 2017 (EDT)