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'''Ness''' is a playable character in the ''[[Brawl]]'' mod ''[[Project M]]'' and is ranked 19th out of 41 on the official [[Project M#Tier list|official]] [[tier list]], at the top of B tier. This is an improvement over his placements in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' where he was 23rd out of 26 and 26th out of 38, respectively.  He ranks slightly lower in ''Project+'', being ranked 27th in the {{h2|Project+|official tier list}}, now in the middle of the B tier.

 

His placing on the tier list comes from having one of the best punishes in the game, as well as a solid neutral. However, he is held back due to a susceptibility to crouch canceling from most of his moves, being easily outranged by a lot of the cast, and a recovery which is generally easy to edgeguard despite sending him far.

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His up smash involves his yo-yo, sending it whipping around his body in a circle. Although it does not grow stronger as it is charged, it maintains a weak hitbox on the yo-yo, sitting in front of and disjointed from Ness's body. This makes it useful for flinching approaching opponents comboing into the strong hit on upward swing the up smash release. The upswing itself is useful for intercepting aerial opponents due to it's disjoint. These combined properties mean that this move is useful near the ledge. Hanging the yo-yo off of the ledge can make it difficult for some characters to sweetspot and if the opponent passes close above or in front of Ness he can still intercept without moving. However, it can no longer be used to perform the [[yo-yo glitch]] like it could in ''Melee''.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[[File:NessDairPM.jpg|thumb|200px|Ness's down aerial in ''Project M''.]]

*{{change|Forward smash's sourspot produces the "wooden bat" SFX from ''Brawl'', while the sweetspot displays a [[ping]] sound like in ''Melee'' and ''Smash 64''.}}

*{{change|Ness now has a [[Smash Taunt]] that can be done using his up taunt: he poses at the screen and a "photo" flash is displayed, based on the iconic Fuzzy Pickles moments in his origin game, ''{{s|wikibound|EarthBound}}''.}}

*{{buff|Ness retains his double jump cancel ability, though it is now optional; just pressing and then releasing the jump button when attacking will cause him to DJC, while holding the jump button causes him to perform a rising aerial, just like characters who cannot use this technique. Special moves will always DJC.}}

*{{buff|[[Forward smash]] has slightly more range and is much more powerful (went from on par with Mario's when tipped to being slightly stronger than Captain Falcon's forward smash).}}

*{{buff|[[Down smash]] covers more distance and also deals higher damage and knockback, serving as a powerful on-stage [[edge-guarding]] tool.}}

*{{bugfix|[[Yo-yo glitch|Yoyo/Jacket glitch]] has been fixed.}}

*{{buff|Neutral aerial has less startup lag with a longer duration (frames 5-23 → 4-23). It also has less landing lag (22 frames → 14) and auto-cancels one frame sooner (frame 27 → 26).}}

*{{nerf|Back aerial's sweetspot deals less damage (16% → 15%).}}

*{{buff|Up aerial (109 → 118) and the sweetspot of back aerial (100 → 115) have increased knockback scaling.}}

*{{buff|[[Down aerial]] is now closer to its ''Smash 64'' counterpart, greatly reducing its [[startup]] (frame 20 → 5) and ending lag (frame 60 → 38) though it is still slower than it's ''64'' counterpart. It also has much higher knockback scaling (70 → 90 (clean), 80 (late)) and deals 2% more damage (12% → 14%). It also has less landing lag (28 frames → 20).}}

*{{nerf|Down aerial now has a weaker late hit and it has much less base knockback (90 → 40 (clean), 20 (late)) making it less effective at lower percents. Its [[auto-cancel]] window is also much smaller (frame <19 29> → <3 >35) making it auto-cancel later and no longer making it auto-cancel the entire time the hitbox isn't active.}}

*{{buff|[[Back throw]] has more knockback scaling (130 → 135).}}

*{{buff|[[PK Flash]] moves farther horizontally and is faster, greatly improving its use as an [[edgeguard]]ing move. It also no longer enforces [[helplessness]] if used in the air.}}

*{{nerf|PK Flash, though retaining its powerful knockback, is smaller and deals much less damage.}}

*{{buff|[[PK Fire]]'s flame effect has the same power as in ''Brawl''. Ness also keeps his forward momentum when using it in midair. The move can additionally "[[Fobble]]": the knockback of other hitboxes that hit within a 3 frame window of one of the [[PK Fire]]'s repeating hitboxes gets completely canceled due to [[Project M]]'s new knockback engine, allowing the player to rack up deadly amounts of damage.}}

*{{buff|Ness can jump out of [[PSI Magnet]] (like how the [[space animal]]s can jump out of their [[Reflector]]s), and the move additionally deals consecutive damage, with a strong initial hit that sends foes above Ness and link into aerial attacks. When absorbing a projectile, he can also cancel the move to go into the ending animation afterwards, preventing rapid-fire projectiles such as Fox's [[Blaster]] from trapping him into the move indefinitely.}}

===v2.1===

*{{buff|Ness' PK Flash no longer puts him in a helpless state.}}

===v2.5b===

*{{buff|[[Dash attack]] cannot be [[DI]]'d down or shielded in between hits.}}

*{{nerf|[[Down throw]] has more ending lag.}}

===v2.6b===

Up to date as of version 3.6.

! colspan="2" | !!Name!!Damage!!Description

| 4%

! rowspan="3" | Forward tilt || ↗

| rowspan="3" | || 12% || rowspan="3" | Kicks forwards with a foot. This can be angled up or down.

!→

| 11%

!↘

| 10%

! colspan="2" | Up tilt

| || 7% || Quickly extends both his arms upwards. Can be used to juggle fast fallers up to 70% which can then lead into an aerial attack. Ness's head is [[intangible]] when performing the attack.

! colspan="2" | Down tilt

| || 3% || Kicks his foot out slightly. Short ranged attack, but can be used in quick succession.

! colspan="2" | Dash attack

| || 5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) || Runs forward and creates three disjointed PSI bubbles from his hands. The first two hits have a [[semi-spike]] trajectory, while the last hit sends opponents straight upwards which can lead into aerials.

! colspan="2" | Forward smash

| || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|18}} (body),{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (bat base), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|22}} (bat mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|24}} (bat tip) || Takes out his bat and swings it the opponent horizontally. The sweetspot is located at the bat's tip. The bat can [[reflect]] [[projectile]]s.

! colspan="2" | Up smash

| || 2% (charging hits 1-7), 12% (swing) || Takes out his yo-yo and swings it above him, performing the "around the world trick". Pretty fast for an up smash; covering a wide area above his head. It is also affected slightly by gravity when used near an edge. Can be charged, but doing so does not increase the attack's damage.

! colspan="2" | Down smash

| || 2% (hits 1-7 [hold]), 12% (swing) || Takes out his yo-yo and swings it across the floor, performing the "walk the dog" trick. Strong power, can be used to safely [[edge-guard]] from the stage. Similar to his up smash, the yo-yo doesn't increase in damage or in knockback when it's "charging".

! colspan="2" | Neutral aerial

| || 11% (clean), 8% (late) || Spins diagonally in the air with arms stretched out. Has good knockback and is very fast with high combo potential, but has poor range.

! colspan="2" | Forward aerial

| || 4% (hits 1-2), 2% (hits 3-4), 3% (hit 5) || Sticks his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him. This move hits multiple times, making it harder to so towards enemies at high percents.

! colspan="2" | Back aerial

! colspan="2" | Down aerial

| || 14% || Kicks one foot downwards. A fast [[meteor smash]], useful for edge-guarding. Combined with double-jump canceling and [[L-cancel]]ing, it can also pressure [[shield]]s efficiently.

! colspan="2" | Grab

| || &mdash; || Grabs the opponent with both hands. The fastest grab in the game, but has short reach.

! colspan="2" | Pummel

| || 3% || Headbutts the opponent.

! colspan="2" | Forward throw

| || 11% || Psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward.

! colspan="2" | Back throw

| || 11% || Psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Has low base knockback, but a surprisingly strong knockback scaling, becoming a powerful KO move and also one of the strongest throws in the game.

! colspan="2" | Up throw

| || 10% || Psychokinetically spins the opponent above his head before sending them up. Can chain grab at very low percentage and set up for aerial followups.

! colspan="2" | Down throw

| || 1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) || Throws the opponent onto the ground and scorches them with PK Fire.

! colspan="2" | Floor attack (front)

! colspan="2" | Floor attack (back)

! colspan="2" | Floor attack (trip)

! colspan="2" | Edge attack (fast)

| || 6% (body), 8% (foot) || Fips onto the stage and does a sweep kick.

! colspan="2" | Edge attack (slow)

| || 10% || Slowly climbs up onto stage and throws out a punch.

! colspan="2" | Neutral special

| [[PK Flash]] || 8-22% || Ness generates a green ball of light that slowly rises vertically above Ness before descending. The downward arc can be controlled by moving either left or right on the [[control stick]]. This can be used as an effective edge-guarding move, due to its range and power. The explosion can be [[Absorption|absorbed]] and reflected, though the latter only affects Ness if he's close to it.

! colspan="2" | Side special

| [[PK Fire]] || 8% (bolt), 1% (pillar hits 1-5) || Ness shoots a lighting bolt forward that bursts into a pillar of flames upon hitting a foe. When used in midair, Ness instead shoots it at a diagonally downward angle while keeping his forward momentum. The pillar is affected by gravity and can be hit by attacks. The bolt vanishes upon hitting a surface, and can be reflected or absorbed.

! colspan="2" | Up special

| [[PK Thunder]] || 4% (startup), 8% (thunder head), 1% (thunder tail)<br/>PK Thunder 2: 25% (clean), 21% (mid), 15% (late) || Ness produces ball of lightning from his head, which he can then control freely. When the projectile is first produced, a brief hitbox covers his body, repelling foes attempting to stop the attack. If the projectile hits Ness, he will be propelled in the same direction it was last travelling in, surrounded by a powerful electric hitbox, known as PK Thunder 2. If the tip of the projectile hits a surface, foe, a disjointed hitbox that deals knockback, or gets absorbed, the projectile will disappear and leave Ness [[helpless]] (in midair). If the projectile is reflected or if Ness is hit while controlling the beam, he will lose control of the projectile and will continue flying in the same direction he was guiding it in. When hitting a wall or ceiling with PK Thunder 2, Ness will either travel parallel to it or rebound off it, depending on how perpendicular to the wall he was when he blasted into it. When PK Thunder 2 is launched towards the ground, he will [[Floor recovery|lie on the floor]]. Though an effective recovery move, it's difficult to recover with it between tall walls (such as the buildings in [[Fourside]]).

! colspan="2" | Down special

| [[PSI Magnet]] || 6% (startup), 2% (loop), heals 1.6x the damage of absorbed projectiles || Ness creates a purple energy field around him which allows him to absorb all energy-based projectiles. As an attack, it first launches enemies diagonally upwards, then hits consecutively with no knockback. When used in the air, it resets Ness's falling speed. He can jump out of the ending lag of the move to string it together with aerials.

! colspan="2" | Final Smash

| [[PK Starstorm]] || 20% (each star) || Ness calls down a rain of stars from the sky, yelling "PK... Starstorm!"

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*{{Sm|Akimi|USA}} - Ranked 1st on the Washington ''Project M'' Power Rankings and 28th on [[PMRank 2018]].

*{{Sm|WouldSmokeCraq|USA}} - Very strong player from Connecticut, placed 17th at Undertow with a win over Malachi.

*{{Sm|Mira|USA}} - Formerly ranked 1st on the Massachusetts ''Project M'' Power Rankings and 27th on [[PMRank 2022]].

*{{Sm|Jose V|USA}} - Ranked 38th on [[PMRank 2018]].

*{{Sm|Not Chris|USA}} - Ranked #39 on [[PMRank 2023]].

*{{Sm|Reslived|USA}} - Ranked 47th on [[PMRank 2018]].

Ness' alternate costume is his blue-striped pajamas he wears in the beginning of ''EarthBound'' and while in [[Magicant]] in the international releases of ''EarthBound''.

3.5 gave Ness' pajamas additional recolors to be used for team battles, and a purple costume based off of {{s|wikibound|Yes Man Junior}}.

|colspan=8|[[File:Ness Palette (PM).png|frame|center|Ness' alternate costumes in PM]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadWhiteSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadYellowSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadGreenSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadBlueSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadPurpleSSBB.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadPurplePM.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadPajamaPM.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadPajamaRedPM.png]]

|colspan=1|[[File:NessHeadPajamaGreenPM.png]]

*[https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/k4qyve/labbing_discord_results_ness/ Labbing Discord Tech Post]