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So then, anyone has something new to say? Also, should Porple handle the call? Or should the admins try to get together for a Skype group call? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:47, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
So then, anyone has something new to say? Also, should Porple handle the call? Or should the admins try to get together for a Skype group call? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:47, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:What disturbs me is the ads. They can get in the way easily. Aside from that if they won't change how we run the wiki then I'm fine. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Mushroom 13:52, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:As long as the ads basically operate in the same way they currently do, it shouldn't be a problem; as it stands, we're not having issues with overly obtrusive ads or anything right now. I'd say the call is mostly Porple's job to handle, since it would involve some work on his part to set up the ad switching. Other than that, I can't think of any other reasons not to just go forward with this. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:59, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:Seems okay to me, as long as the allure of them sharing certain articles doesn't end up affecting what types of articles we prioritize. But yes, in the end I think all you admins getting together and deciding among yourselves is the fairest way to decide on the course of action, but Porple should have the final say, if he deals with the hosting costs and whatnot. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 15:34, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:''Ads''
Who cares, not like anyone clicks on those anyway. We'll still be getting the same amount of ads, so it won't affect us very much.
And here's the big thing. If we reject them. Guess who they're going to next?
That's right. Smashpedia. Don't want that, do you?[[User:Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="purple">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="silver">the</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="red">lord</font>]] [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 17:47, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:Does Smashpedia even cover things related to competitive smash anymore? [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:51, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
::Went to that cancerous site a while back. They have a few tier lists plus a page on tournaments (and no examples). That's it. I get the impression they're removing all competitive references. [[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 18:40, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Wow, is there bad blood between us and Smashpedia? Last I checked, we split on peaceful terms... [[Image:VinSymbol.png|16px|link=User:VinLAURiA]][[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 17:44, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
::::I really doubt "bad blood" is a good way to put it. Most of the Wiki considers Smashpedia a joke now, especially now that SmashWiki has been displacing Smashpedia in Google rankings, and it seems only new-ish members who are trying to be edgy seem to think bashing Smashpedia should be a requirement for users.
::::--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  20:21, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
:Smashpedia no longer covers the competitive scene (with their tier list page being horribly out of date and their ''Project M'' page being up for deletion), so I don't believe that MLG would bother. I have doubts a site owned by Wikia would even allow an outside source to control adverts on the site.
:Also:
::''Who cares, not like anyone clicks on those anyway.''
:While I cannot speak on the behalf of Porple on how our adverts work, [[wikipedia:Impression (online media)|there are are adverts that do not require clicking on to give revenue to the site]].
:If I may add, you may notice that the adverts on this site are only displayed for non-registered users and are relegated to only the top and side of the side of the page, with none of them actually bleeding over into the text of the article or otherwise being a distraction. A primary concern is how MLG plans on incorporating them; if they start showing up for registered users or otherwise invading the writing of the page, we may as well have stayed with Wikia.
:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  19:20, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
:Oh, and if I may add, I believe Porple should be heading discussions with MLG. If adverts are the only thing being discussed, then he would know the most about the topic.
:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  19:26, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
::Hm. Well, that is true, but using a different ad server will not change the amount of times an ad is seen.[[User:Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="purple">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="silver">the</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Qwerty|<font face="sand" color="red">lord</font>]] [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 20:51, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
Update: I spoke with them about the ads. Our level of control isn't going to change in terms of who we show ads to, the types of ads shown, etc. Since I don't see any downside here, the current status is that we're moving forward with the affiliation. I've been told that getting everything finalized will take about four weeks since it will take some time for them to get ad campaigns ready for us. It's not a done deal yet and input is still welcome. I agree with the concerns of them having too much control, and with that addressed, this looks good to me. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 19:53, 6 June 2014 (EDT)
:Sounds good. Unless something comes up, we should be good to go forward with this. Glad it worked out so smoothly. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:52, 6 June 2014 (EDT)
This sounds really cool! I like it. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 15:24, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
I'm... reluctant. Cards on the table, I've been wanting to start a push to bring the NIWA wikis closer together and perhaps even get some sort of official recognition from Nintendo themselves, much like what happened with the Team Fortress Wiki and the VWN (the VALVe equivalent of the NIWA.) I can't help but feel that an affiliation with MLG would conflict with that. [[Image:VinSymbol.png|16px|link=User:VinLAURiA]][[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 17:42, 8 June 2014 (EDT)
I think this would be a great oppurtunity for smashwiki to overtake our rival (smashpedia), as well as just a good thing in general. :D [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 05:10, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
:Pretty late response, but we have never had to deal with Smashpedia. They are not a rival, and they are most definitely not a threat to our Wiki's status. At this point, they're more like a little fly that we've just come to ignore because it's too much effort to take it out, yet it can't do much harm at all. Just laying that out there. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 02:49, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
So how is this coming along now? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 23:46, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
:A lot of us agree apparently. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Pollyanna 10:34, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
Bump [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 09:14, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
What exactly happened to this? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:04, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:We joined the affiliate network and I'm still waiting for the new ad units. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 01:30, 21 July 2014 (EDT)