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''San brought Ike out of the low tiers, yet he is still famous for that and being the best Ike main.''
''San brought Ike out of the low tiers, yet he is still famous for that and being the best Ike main.''


That's why we have [[:Category:Ike professionals]].
That's why we have [[:Category:Ike players]].


''Information such as winning with a then low tier character does not become outdated, especially in multiple unique cases, such as Verm''
''Information such as winning with a then low tier character does not become outdated, especially in multiple unique cases, such as Verm''


If so, what is your basis for excluding players who succeed with high-tier characters from this category if this isn't simply going to turn into a an amalgam of people who should be in, or are already in, [[:Category:Professionals]] and whomever else you deem to be "important"? Again, that is why we have Category:(character) professionals and respective categories for tournament organizers, game developers and the like.
If so, what is your basis for excluding players who succeed with high-tier characters from this category if this isn't simply going to turn into a an amalgam of people who should be in, or are already in, Category:Professionals and whomever else you deem to be "important"? Again, that is why we have Category:(character) professionals and respective categories for tournament organizers, game developers and the like.


''You do not expect a 15 year old like Nairo to place anywhere in the top five of a major tournament, yet such a thing was done.''
''You do not expect a 15 year old like Nairo to place anywhere in the top five of a major tournament, yet such a thing was done.''
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''Though you can convert this category to a top professional category, you exclude people who've discovered useful things, but have failed to place highly in tournaments.''
''Though you can convert this category to a top professional category, you exclude people who've discovered useful things, but have failed to place highly in tournaments.''


To reiterate, we have [[:Category:Professionals]]. The simple act of discovering something does not make someone automatically notable enough to be considered "very important". {{Sm|Toadbanjoconker}} did not discover [[wavedash]]ing, but he is notable because he popularized it in a video he uploaded. And again, there is no objective way to determine how important a discovery is to warrant belonging to this category, not to mention that most people who would fit the above criterion are already professional players who would belong to one or more of the aforementioned categories e.g. {{Sm|Ken Hoang}} and the [[Ken combo]].  
To reiterate, we have Category:Professionals. The simple act of discovering something does not make someone automatically notable enough to be considered "very important". Toadbanjoconker did not discover [[wavedash]]ing, but he is notable because he popularized it in a video he uploaded. And again, there is no objective way to determine how important a discovery is to warrant belonging to this category, not to mention that most people who would fit the above criterion are already professional players who would belong to one or more of the aforementioned categories e.g. {{Sm|Ken Hoang}} and the [[Ken combo]].  


''Ask a competitive user if they recognize the name.''
''Ask a competitive user if they recognize the name.''
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*'''VIP Tournament directors''' - This category would be for the most important tournament hosts of the competitive scene. Examples would include {{Sm|Alex Strife}}, {{Sm|Xyro}}, and {{Sm|Matt Deezie}}.
*'''VIP Tournament directors''' - This category would be for the most important tournament hosts of the competitive scene. Examples would include {{Sm|Alex Strife}}, {{Sm|Xyro}}, and {{Sm|Matt Deezie}}.


*'''VIP Contributors''' - This category would be for the most important contributors to Smash. They would be either from vital discoveries and spread of information ({{Sm|God-is-my-Rock}}), vital contributions to the community from non-tournament means ({{Sm|Nealdt}}, {{Sm|Gideon}}), or a combination of.
*'''VIP Contributors''' - This category would be for the most important contributors to Smash. They would be either from vital discoveries and spread of information ({{Sm|GimR}}), vital contributions to the community from non-tournament means ({{Sm|Nealdt}}, {{Sm|Gideon}}), or a combination of.


As for the people involved in the direct creation of Smash, a VIP category won't be necessary, as it's redundant with the game developer category (and everyone there qualifies as VIP by default). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:45, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
As for the people involved in the direct creation of Smash, a VIP category won't be necessary, as it's redundant with the game developer category (and everyone there qualifies as VIP by default). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:45, 6 October 2012 (EDT)