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==In [[competitive play]]==
==In [[competitive play]]==
===Tier placement and history===
Due to Peach's great aerial potential and [[combo]] ability, she has been a character consistently ranking in the top tiers of the ''Melee'' [[tier list]]. However, she has generally been regarded as below the other top tiers in terms of tournament viability, due to her slow movement speed and floatiness. During the 2000s, several Peach players, including {{Sm|Sastopher}}, {{Sm|Cort}}, and {{Sm|DoH}}, were able to defeat top players and frequently, albeit inconsistently, place in the top eight at majors. However, Peach's tournament representation truly shined during {{Sm|Armada}}'s reign of dominance from 2009 to 2013, where he placed 1st or 2nd at nearly every tournament he entered in the United States, defeating North America's top players with Peach.
However, Peach's tournament viability has always been held back by her extremely unfavorable matchup against Jigglypuff. Armada was unable to take a single game off of Hungrybox's Jigglypuff with Peach from 2009 to 2013, despite being considered a more skilled player at the time. He eventually gave up using Peach to try defeating Hungrybox, and switched to counterpicks such as {{SSBM|Young Link}} and {{SSBM|Fox}}, with which he had much greater success. He also brought out the Fox counterpick against other players, such as fellow Swedish player {{Sm|Leffen}}, whom he found it increasingly difficult to defeat with Peach. It is generally acknowledged that Peach's tournament success was largely due to Armada's incredible abilities as a player, rather than Peach being better than the other top tiers. This is supported by the fact that only a handful of other Peach players have been able to consistently place in the top sixteen of majors during the modern era. Following Armada's retirement from competing in 2018, Peach's representation in tournaments dropped significantly.
Today, Peach is generally considered among the least viable of the top tier characters, and is often seen as having the worst matchup spread among all the top tiers. Her lopsided matchup vs. Jigglypuff is considered the single hardest counter among any of the top tier matchups, and she is seen as clearly losing every other top tier matchup (with the exception of Falco). As a result of this perception, she has dropped to 7th on the thirteenth and latest tier list, at the bottom of A tier.
====PAL viability====
Peach did not receive any changes from NTSC to PAL, but several characters that would years later be placed higher than her on the tier list did; Fox now has a harder time KOing Peach and gets edgeguarded much more easily, Sheik has no guaranteed followups with her down throw and relies more heavily on zoning, and Marth has slightly lower air speed and weight, improving Peach's chances in those matchups. Peach is still ranked 6th in the PAL tier list, but is notably placed in her own tier at B, where most European players can see a noticeable difference in viability between Sheik, Peach, and Captain Falcon.
===Notable players===
===Notable players===
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*{{Sm|Vwins|Canada}}
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*{{Sm|XIF|USA}}
*{{Sm|XIF|USA}}
===Tier placement and history===
Due to Peach's great aerial potential and [[combo]] ability, she has been a character consistently ranking in the top tiers of the ''Melee'' [[tier list]]. However, she has generally been regarded as below the other top tiers in terms of tournament viability, due to her slow movement speed and floatiness. During the 2000s, several Peach players, including {{Sm|Sastopher}}, {{Sm|Cort}}, and {{Sm|DoH}}, were able to defeat top players and frequently, albeit inconsistently, place in the top eight at majors. However, Peach's tournament representation truly shined during {{Sm|Armada}}'s reign of dominance from 2009 to 2013, where he placed 1st or 2nd at nearly every tournament he entered in the United States, defeating North America's top players with Peach.
However, Peach's tournament viability has always been held back by her extremely unfavorable matchup against Jigglypuff. Armada was unable to take a single game off of Hungrybox's Jigglypuff with Peach from 2009 to 2013, despite being considered a more skilled player at the time. He eventually gave up using Peach to try defeating Hungrybox, and switched to counterpicks such as {{SSBM|Young Link}} and {{SSBM|Fox}}, with which he had much greater success. He also brought out the Fox counterpick against other players, such as fellow Swedish player {{Sm|Leffen}}, whom he found it increasingly difficult to defeat with Peach. It is generally acknowledged that Peach's tournament success was largely due to Armada's incredible abilities as a player, rather than Peach being better than the other top tiers. This is supported by the fact that only a handful of other Peach players have been able to consistently place in the top sixteen of majors during the modern era. Following Armada's retirement from competing in 2018, Peach's representation in tournaments dropped significantly.
Today, Peach is generally considered among the least viable of the top tier characters, and is often seen as having the worst matchup spread among all the top tiers. Her lopsided matchup vs. Jigglypuff is considered the single hardest counter among any of the top tier matchups, and she is seen as clearly losing every other top tier matchup (with the exception of Falco). As a result of this perception, she has dropped to 7th on the thirteenth and latest tier list, at the bottom of A tier.
====PAL viability====
Peach did not receive any changes from NTSC to PAL, but several characters that would years later be placed higher than her on the tier list did; Fox now has a harder time KOing Peach and gets edgeguarded much more easily, Sheik has no guaranteed followups with her down throw and relies more heavily on zoning, and Marth has slightly lower air speed and weight, improving Peach's chances in those matchups. Peach is still ranked 6th in the PAL tier list, but is notably placed in her own tier at B, where most European players can see a noticeable difference in viability between Sheik, Peach, and Captain Falcon.


==In 1-P Mode==
==In 1-P Mode==