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*Wii U version may get delayed into 2015 for farther character balancing and tweaks. | *Wii U version may get delayed into 2015 for farther character balancing and tweaks. | ||
*DLC and post-release patching is definitely happening. | *DLC and post-release patching is definitely happening. | ||
*Unlike the previous games', where characters got scrapped mid-development, we're going to get pretty much everyone that was planned, along with extra characters added mid-development because of how smooth and efficient everything is going. | *Unlike the previous games', where characters got scrapped mid-development for the team not having enough time/space, we're going to get pretty much everyone that was planned, along with extra characters added mid-development because of how smooth and efficient everything is going. | ||
**This also means Lucina will likely not be the only bonus clone. | **This also means Lucina will likely not be the only bonus clone. | ||
*Sakurai was fervently going to put in another SSE, up to the point of firing people who refused to work on it, until everyone else convinced him it was a '''''very very bad idea'''''. So we should thank the non-Sakurai development team for there being no SSE, rather than the cutscenes on youtube. | *Sakurai was fervently going to put in another SSE, up to the point of firing people who refused to work on it, until everyone else convinced him it was a '''''very very bad idea'''''. So we should thank the non-Sakurai development team for there being no SSE, rather than the cutscenes on youtube. | ||
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--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 14:50, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | --- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 14:50, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
I don't tend to take "leaks" about this kind of stuff seriously in general. This one in particular I hope is false, because DLC characters would be a pretty big slap in the face to fans. Smash is already going to sell well and move consoles on two systems, plus they're primed to make a boatload of cash off of amiibo. They shouldn't need DLC on Smash to make a healthy profit from it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:35, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:What, exactly, is wrong with DLC? It can't hurt the game's level of enjoyment, and it's not likely that anyone is going to be charged for it. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 15:43, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::I'm not as optimistic that it'd be free DLC. If it is, it's more palatable. I'm not expecting that, though. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:44, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::If they sell individual characters (like, just Dixie Kong) I would be annoyed. But if they sell packs (like Dixie Kong, King K. Rool, a DK stage, etc.) it would be kinda cool, I think. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 15:52, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
Here's another thing about Brawl's development (and why SSE was so bad for the game) | |||
{{cquote|With Brawl, according to sources @thethirdkoopa has (note: don't apply this to Smash 4), the SSE killed production of a ton of characters. | |||
Like, a ton. | |||
And according to them, the last "cuts" to make the roster a full 38 characters (Sonic was added in 2007, and this was in 2005) were... | |||
Roy: They found him boring. He was cut sometime in mid-2005 or some time around then. | |||
Mewtwo: They wanted to partially remake him. They had programming issues with this and was kind of glitchy. So, they cut him sometime in late 2005 or early 2006. He was much further in development than Roy though. | |||
So yes, it was the SSE that cut those 2, and a lot of other character (ideas) then. | |||
Don't expect something like that to happen again. | |||
There will be no equivalent situation to that again.}} | |||
So Mewtwo apparently encountered technical issues? (and as anyone with a brain would have known, Lucario's inclusion had nothing to do with his exclusion). | |||
Also you all are too phobic of DLC. You really gonna be that against some extra bonus post-release content you might have to pay for, that you hope this is all made up, even though it would mean we would have a roster around 60 characters '''''before DLC''''', and that Smash 4 wouldn't have a ton of scrapped characters and content and ridiculous delays? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:31, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:I'd much rather have a polished 50 character roster released as a complete game than have 60+ where I have to pay for more on top of the game's price to get all the playable characters. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:39, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::You don't have to pay DLC if you're that stingy, and this would leave you with a much larger and "polished" roster, so you would have more characters either way. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:46, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
Have you heard of [[wikipedia:Eternal September|Eternal September]]? It was basically the time when the Internet became available to the average person, and what was a small influx of post-secondary students once a year became an endless tidal wave of newbies that destroyed the cycle of "new stuff happens, deal with it, refine and perfect it, get ready for the next new stuff". I feel patches and DLC would invoke this kind of change to the Smash Bros. series and this wiki - we might never get a down-cycle again, always having to stay on top of the newest version without time to improve what's already here. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Producer 16:47, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:That's an exaggeration; DLC and patching would not be infinite, they would stop happening at some point. The patching would also reasonably be spread out, and wouldn't make significant changes. Plus, whether the wiki can hypothetically keep up or not is completely irrelevant to peoples' enjoyment of the game. But the wiki should be able to keep up anyway; the Minecraft wiki can keep with their constantly updating game, we should be able to keep up with some patches and DLC characters. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:22, 24 July 2014 (EDT) | |||