Ice Climbers (SSBM): Difference between revisions

|rankingPAL = 8

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They rank 8th on the tier list (in the B+ tier). Among the Ice Climbers' strengths are their devastating grab game. When both Popo and Nana are alive, the Ice Climbers can land a zero-to-death on any character in the game off of a grab through [[wobbling]], and can perform hand-offs in settings where wobbling is banned to achieve nearly as punishing results. They are immune to chain grabs and some other combo setups, as if one Climber gets grabbed, the partner can hit them out of the grab at any time. The Ice Climbers have access to fast and powerful smash attacks, great disjoint on their hammer moves, such as up aerial and back aerial, and one of the longest [[wavedash]]es in the game, aiding their offensive capabilities. They also can perform various techniques through [[desyncing]], which allows the player to control both Climbers at different times; when combined with their [[Blizzard]] projectile, this makes the Ice Climbers especially difficult to break through defensively. Their unique attributes and threat of an instant KO off of a grab forces other characters to adopt unique and often frustrating playstyles against the Ice Climbers.

|game=SSBM

|neutralcount=2

|neutral1dmg=1-2%

|neutral2dmg=3-4%

|neutraldesc=A horizontal swipe followed by an upward swing.

|ftiltdmg=7-8%

|ftiltdesc=Does a side swing with their hammers with long reach. Can [[wobble]]. Can be angled up or down, but deals the same damage regardless.

|utiltdmg=0-1% (hits 1-6), 6-7% (hit 7)

|utiltdesc=Twirl their hammers above themselves, being short-ranged, but highly damaging. Can deal up to 21% damage if both Ice Climbers connect all hits and if the move is used fresh. Can [[wobble]] in conjunction with back air.

|dtiltdmg=4-5%

|dtiltdesc=Swings their hammer low across the ground. One of the Ice Climbers' less damaging moves even with both their damages combined. Can [[wobble]].

|dashdmg=8-9%

|dashdesc=Sweeps upwards with their hammers while coming to a stop. Has some ending lag, but both Ice Climbers' hits add up to an impressive damage output for a dash attack.

|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|12}}-{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|14}} (head), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|9}}-{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|10}} (handle)

|fsmashdesc=Lifts their hammers over their heads, then smash them straight down. Great damage and knockback if both Ice Climbers' connect. Can [[wobble]] if staled.

|usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|10}}-{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|11}}

|usmashdesc=Swings their hammers in an arc over their heads. Excellent for getting KOs at higher percentages.

|dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|11}}-{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|12}}

|dsmashdesc=Spins around and sweeps the ground with their hammers. Fast, but somewhat short ranged, good for tight [[spacing]]. Good horizontal knockback. Can [[wobble]] if staled.

|nairdmg=7-8%

|nairdesc=Twirls around in the air, hammers extended. Short ranged, but good for aerial spacing and following up with another neutral aerial if predicted right. Can [[wobble]] in conjunction with back air..

|fairdmg=9-11% (leader), 8-10% (partner)

|fairdesc=Hold their hammers up, then bring them down in a similar fashion to their forward smash. Can [[meteor smash]] if [[sweetspot]]ted, which is located at the handle of their hammers.

|bairdmg=11-12% (head), 10-11% (handle)

|uairdmg=8-9% (clean), 7% (late)

|uairdesc=Thrust their hammers above themselves just like their up tilt, but with only one hitbox per Ice Climber.

|dairdmg=8-9%

|dairdesc=Hold their hammers below themselves and fall downwards. Has long duration and some landing lag (though [[L-cancelling]] helps). This attack has extremely low [[set knockback]], and therefore cannot KO grounded opponents at any percentage. It can help prevent air [[juggling]] a bit due to the slightly increased falling speed.

|grabdesc=Grabs the opponent. While the lead Ice Climber is holding the opponent, the partner can attack the grabbed opponent, but will take less damage from their attacks (attacks deal half the damage they usually do).

|pummeldmg=3%

|pummeldesc=The lead climber headbutts the opponent, whereas the player has some control over the partner while pummeling. The damage adds up quickly due to [[desynching]].

|fthrowdmg=6% (hit 1), 5% (throw)

|fthrowdesc=Hits opponent forward with their hammer.

|bthrowdmg=8% (collateral), 7% (throw)

|bthrowdesc=Takes opponent and flings them behind with one hand.

|uthrowdmg=6% (hit 1), 5% (throw)

|uthrowdesc=Throw opponent upwards, then hits them with their hammer. Powerful, though it's power costs them combo follow ups, for a throw. One of the strongest throws in the game.

|dthrowdmg=6%

|dthrowdesc=Spins and then slams the opponent on the ground. The attack deals little damage, but the opponent is usually knocked right in front them, leading into many quick combos and [[chaingrab]]s.

|dsdmg= 1-2% (loop)

|dsdesc=Each Ice Climber blows icy wind from their hands, damaging nearby opponents. When the move is used on the ground, the partner will shoot in the direction opposite of the leader. Can rack up damage and [[freeze]] opponents for a small amount of time. The move can be used to perform Blizzobbling, a variation of [[Wobbling]] performed with Blizzard; instead of a tilt, the partner uses Blizzard to damage the opponent while the leader pummels. This attack has [[Priority#Transcendent_priority|transcendent priority]].

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==In [[competitive play]]==

===Tier placement and history===

The Ice Climbers were once a middle to low-middle tiered character, as in the beginning of ''Melee'', professionals did not discover their powerful grounded presence and threatening [[wobbling]] techniques, as their flaws, such as their poor aerial approach and difficulty in maintaining both climbers, were highlighted more often. With the discovery of the Ice Climbers' [[desynching]] combos and wobbling, more players advocated for their potential, showcased in {{Sm|ChuDat}}, {{Sm|Wobbles}} and {{Sm|Fly Amanita}}’s discoveries. {{Sm|Wobbles}}'s second place finish at [[EVO 2013]] with the Ice Climbers did not change their tier position but finally pushed them into the S tier, where they are at last recognized as a viable character for tournaments alongside the top tiered characters. With the release of the twelfth tier list, they moved up one spot, above {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}}, for the first time. In the thirteenth tier list, the Ice Climbers are ranked 8th, however this placement was determined with the assumption that wobbling is not banned; their viability without wobbling allowed is yet to be assessed. Also, the major advancements for other characters like {{SSBM|Marth}} and {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} have indirectly worsened the potency of the Ice Climbers due to the increasing gap in potential, especially after the ban on wobbling.

===Wobbling Controversy===

{{main|Wobbling}}

{{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}} was the first major to officially announce a wobbling ban.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/aqphih/goml_2019_becomes_first_major_tournament_to_ban/|title=GOML 2019 becomes first major tournament to ban wobbling.}}</ref> Throughout 2019 and 2020, various majors announced their own bans of the technique, including {{Trn|Low Tier City 7}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/brvvyg/wobbling_will_be_banned_at_ltc7/|title=Wobbling will be banned at LTC7!}}</ref> {{Trn|The Big House 9}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/cq1zvw/wobbling_banned_at_tbh9/|title=Wobbling banned at TBH9}}</ref> [[Tournament:Pound Online|Pound 2020]],<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/ew8p1w/wobbling_is_banned_at_pound_2020/|title=Wobbling is banned at Pound 2020}}</ref> and {{Trn|Smash World Tour}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/fcilar/smash_world_tour_bans_wobbling/|title=Smash World Tour Bans Wobbling}}</ref> Today, wobbling is banned at most tournaments, although some smaller events may choose to legalize the technique at their own discretion.

==In 1-P Mode==

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SSBM Ice Climbers HQ.jpg|Official artwork of Ice Climbers.

CaptainFalconClassicMode.jpg|Knocked back by {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}}'s [[Falcon Kick]] on [[Corneria]].

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==References==

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