Talk:Top 100 Smash Bros. Players of All Time: Difference between revisions

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:::: I don't see anyone else trying to make a ranking for Smash Wii U or a multi-game rank. By deleting these pages we lose parts of our history and discourage people from even attempting to make their own PR's. If you find it unvaluable that is fine but value is not something that is or should be universal. [[User:JFMV763|JFMV763]] ([[User talk:JFMV763|talk]]) 20:05, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::: I don't see anyone else trying to make a ranking for Smash Wii U or a multi-game rank. By deleting these pages we lose parts of our history and discourage people from even attempting to make their own PR's. If you find it unvaluable that is fine but value is not something that is or should be universal. [[User:JFMV763|JFMV763]] ([[User talk:JFMV763|talk]]) 20:05, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::::Except that isn't something the Wiki gets to decide. Had said list suddenly gained major traction and actually saw usage outside of being a simple musing, then we would report on it. It's not like [[Greatest of all time]] which is a frequent discussion point among the community and is a big part of metagame development. The attention and relevance it has is the salient point: that's exactly why the Wiki is backing away from reporting on the SBR tier lists, because to the community they're worth almost as much as any fanmade tier list. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 20:13, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::::Except that isn't something the Wiki gets to decide. Had said list suddenly gained major traction and actually saw usage outside of being a simple musing, then we would report on it. It's not like [[Greatest of all time]] which is a frequent discussion point among the community and is a big part of metagame development. The attention and relevance it has is the salient point: that's exactly why the Wiki is backing away from reporting on the SBR tier lists, because to the community they're worth almost as much as any fanmade tier list. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 20:13, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::::"''I don't see anyone else trying to make a ranking for Smash Wii U or a multi-game rank.''"
:::::Just supposedly being the "first" doesn't give any more cred, someone else makes their own ranking and then what?
:::::"''By deleting these pages we lose parts of our history''"
:::::So the opinions of random people with little-to-no acceptance by the community is now "history"?
:::::"''and discourage people from even attempting to make their own PR's.''"
:::::This is just silly, the wiki ain't going out there and taking down people's reddit/twitter/whatever posts about their rankings, yours and orange_ssbu's rankings still exist outside the wiki, and people have been just fine posting their own rankings/tier lists/matchup charts on those other sites without trying to seek validation from SmashWiki. We're just not going to fill your need for validation by letting your post userspace content into the mainspace. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:21, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::What separates this ranking from any other rando with their own ranking or tier list? Throwing out buzzwords doesn't help your case, regardless of it's "gatekeepy" the wiki needs notability limits in place; the wiki intends to be a serious professional endeavor, and is explicitly not a place for people to just create their own personal articles for them and their friends. Otherwise this wiki, and its relevant templates and categories, will be clogged up with a bunch of useless articles for random people and their opinions, that would then drown out the articles on the actually legitimate subjects. Do you have any idea what this wiki's Smasher namespace looked like in the early Brawl era when we didn't have notability limits in place? If you want a wiki where you can create articles on whatever rankings you want, you can go to Wikia and create your "Rankings wiki" or whatever. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:09, February 16, 2021 (EST)
:::What separates this ranking from any other rando with their own ranking or tier list? Throwing out buzzwords doesn't help your case, regardless of it's "gatekeepy" the wiki needs notability limits in place; the wiki intends to be a serious professional endeavor, and is explicitly not a place for people to just create their own personal articles for them and their friends. Otherwise this wiki, and its relevant templates and categories, will be clogged up with a bunch of useless articles for random people and their opinions, that would then drown out the articles on the actually legitimate subjects. Do you have any idea what this wiki's Smasher namespace looked like in the early Brawl era when we didn't have notability limits in place? If you want a wiki where you can create articles on whatever rankings you want, you can go to Wikia and create your "Rankings wiki" or whatever. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:09, February 16, 2021 (EST)