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 It says the most famous cheat is Sonic and Tails in Brawl. But it also says the most famous cheat is Sonic and Tails in Melee. The Brawl one is incorrect and should be changed. [[User:Smash Bros is Best|Smash Bros is Best]] 21:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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 There's a rumor going around that a Black Mage screenshot has been leaked. It is a fake to me. Here's where the rumor began. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiIC6FDy2fU. Also, I've found some "leaked" screenshots about Shulk from Xenoblade Chronicles and Mewtwo. --[[User:Mr.Santana Lopez|Mr.Santana Lopez]] ([[User talk:Mr.Santana Lopez|talk]]) 09:50, 18 March 2014 (EDT)
-:While it is interesting to see the variety of faked character reveal images, none of your aforementioned rumours have significant enough spread to warrant mentioning on this article. In general, we want to see some significant spread for rumours (i.e. appearances in notable newssites, significant discussion on forums like [[SWF]], etc.) before they're placed on the page; alternatively, they could have some form of "uniqueness" that helps them be diffrentiated from other rumours (such as the Lucina hoax, which showed that ''Brawl'' hacks can be used to manufacture rumours).
+:While it is interesting to see the variety of faked character reveal images, none of your aforementioned rumours have significant enough spread to warrant mentioning on this article. In general, we want to see some significant spread for rumours (i.e. appearances in notable newssites, significant discussion on forums like [[SmashBoards]], etc.) before they're placed on the page; alternatively, they could have some form of "uniqueness" that helps them be diffrentiated from other rumours (such as the Lucina hoax, which showed that ''Brawl'' hacks can be used to manufacture rumours).
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 :OK: '''Do not put pictures on talk pages'''. They take up unnecessary space, even more so in this pic's case, and can be handled by an internal link (<nowiki>[[:File:Name]]; notice the extra colon before 'file')</nowiki>. About the leak itself: What exactly is this supposed to leak? You never explained that. I can't read the text there, and I think you should give us an external link to the thread so we can see what this actually is. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 18:58, 19 August 2014 (EDT)
 ::I can provide a link to the thread, but individuals who do not have a SmashBoards account cannot view the information, and the thread has now been locked so that only senior members can view the information anyways. http://smashboards.com/threads/the-ninka-vaanrose-leak-discussion-theory.362684 The purpose of the image is that if you select it, and go to its file, it's large enough for you to read it's contents. It was the only way for me to provide the information without quoting it myself because I didn't think I'd be believed if I was to just spread the information from it. The leak adds details on certain palette swaps, and more importantly it claims to provide information on newcomers and character cuts from ''Brawl''. --[[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 20:17, 19 August 2014 (EDT)
-== BS 3DS Leak ==
-http://ssb4dojo.com/post/95233999086/rumor-mill-4chan-20 (Look through the comments for the 4chan link with more pics, since 4chan is blacklisted here, I can't link to them) Should this be added here? It's pretty fake looking, but it's pretty widespread right now. (Heck, Toomai upped the wiki level for it) For those who aren't aware, it's fake due to the names aren't listed under the characters which, as we've seen, is present in the 3DS version, in addition Bowser Jr.'s and Dr.Mario's artworks seem to be photoshopped versions of other artwork. There are other, more subtle nitpicky things, but I won't waste time listing them here. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 01:21, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-:This doesn't look like a very credible leak. You chose the right title. The order sucks, it's ordered by universe except there's a Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina are on the other side of their place. Ness' pic is the same one from his debunked leak. This wasn't thought through very well. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 01:39, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-:Don't forget Shulk's face being a shop of Little Mac's. The most telling thing to me, though is that one of the screenshots (not on Laikue's link but that I've seen with these on other sites) shows the player's tag as "ESRB______" something or another, implying it's an ESRB reviewer. Which is quick proof it's fake since [[wikipedia:ESRB#Rating process|they review video footage]], not copies of the game itself. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:52, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-::Let's not forget the Duck Hunt Dog, probably the most random pick of all the unannounced characters. I'm not sure how the Duck Hunt Dog can work as a fighter.
-::Anyways, was looking at the comments. One comment mentioned what could further harm the credibility: how the leaker handled criticism about his post about DLC. Let's just say he refused to accept those criticisms and responded to them in a profane manner... [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 08:20, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-:::Credible or not, it's gaining speed very quickly, and deserves a place on this article. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 10:42, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-::::It was posted 15 hours ago, and yeah it's pretty much debunked. I don't see how it could be notable. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 12:08, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-:::::Each rendered character artwork is unique. The leaker showed more than just the character selection screen; he showed other images as well. Shulk is not the same render as Little Mac. And all of this information complies with the information from the Ninka/Vaanrose Leak. The image of Bowser Jr. is an orgiinal render, with a unique angle of his face and the fact that he is in the Koopa Clown Cart. Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina are all together because they all came into being through the same method: they started out as alternate skins, but Sakurai decided to do more original things with their models. There has never been a render of the Dukc Hunt Dog quite like the one they've shown. To be honest, very little has come as concrete evidence that this is false.--[[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 14:48, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-::::::Would Sakurai separate Lucina, Dark Pit, and Dr. Mario from the ''other representatives of their respective franchises'', like the leaker did? Sakurai has never done that, and I don't think he will. It's basically common sense in play. Another thing that debunks the leak is how the stage select is shown. It has the past stages mixed in with the new ones, which makes it look like a mess. In Melee and Brawl, past stages have their own separate area, and Smash 4 will certainly follow that trend. You might want to look at the image more closely. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 15:13, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-::::::I would like to also note that using "unique" images for characters is [[Talk:List_of_rumors#Klonoa_.22Leak.22|not a new concept for hoaxers]]. Plus, due to the blurriness of the image, the hoaxer can cut corners in making renders of characters.
-::::::--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  17:36, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-::::::Ness's "artwork" for Smash 4 is also unique, so the "unique images" part is somewhat believable. Other details would need to be be noted, which has been discussed earlier by many of us, to debunk the rumors. As for this leak's notability, I'm uncertain at the moment. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:54, 20 August 2014 (EDT)
-Look, can't we all just agree that it's so fake that it shouldn't be mentioned on this page? [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Average Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 18:48, 20 August 2014 (EDT)