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When these sections on character pages were conceptualized, they were meant to include only "historically significant" players, i.e. the very best players of the characters on a national level, or players who in the past had a huge impact on the character's competitive presence. They were explicitly not to be used to list just any pretty good player who uses the character, nor any big-name player who just occasionally messes around with the character (i.e. stop listing Mew2King on every single character he used once in a tournament). They were to provide a handy reference for readers on the most important players for that character; if readers wanted to see all the other players who competitively used the characters, that is what the character-specific categories were for. When I was around I was strict about enforcing this, but as my activity here wavered, I see these sections have become absolutely bloated, especially on the Smash 4 character articles. I made some attempts here and there when I was around to clean up some of them, but as I see those efforts did not stick and they just bloated back up. | When these sections on character pages were conceptualized, they were meant to include only "historically significant" players, i.e. the very best players of the characters on a national level, or players who in the past had a huge impact on the character's competitive presence. They were explicitly not to be used to list just any pretty good player who uses the character, nor any big-name player who just occasionally messes around with the character (i.e. stop listing Mew2King on every single character he used once in a tournament). They were to provide a handy reference for readers on the most important players for that character; if readers wanted to see all the other players who competitively used the characters, that is what the character-specific categories were for. When I was around I was strict about enforcing this, but as my activity here wavered, I see these sections have become absolutely bloated, especially on the Smash 4 character articles. I made some attempts here and there when I was around to clean up some of them, but as I see those efforts did not stick and they just bloated back up. | ||
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:::Also, Ganondorf has wayy too many notable players in my opinion. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 21:34, 16 April 2016 (EDT) | :::Also, Ganondorf has wayy too many notable players in my opinion. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 21:34, 16 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::No, all I said was that we wouldn't use our "skill" listing to determine who goes in these sections. Even when you account for their lower standards, lower tier characters are very much suffering from this dilution problem too. Taking a brief glimpse at Lucina, there's no way over half those players belong there (seriously, 12 players are there for one of the most competitively unpopular characters in the game, in only a year and half worth of history?). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:01, 16 April 2016 (EDT) | ::::No, all I said was that we wouldn't use our "skill" listing to determine who goes in these sections. Even when you account for their lower standards, lower tier characters are very much suffering from this dilution problem too. Taking a brief glimpse at Lucina, there's no way over half those players belong there (seriously, 12 players are there for one of the most competitively unpopular characters in the game, in only a year and half worth of history?). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:01, 16 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::::In your opinion, which smashers from these characters should be purged? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 22:04, 16 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::::Speaking specifically about Lucina, I would say almost everyone, actually. I think it says a lot about a "notable players" category when two of the inactive players listed on there are very likely better than everyone listed in the "active" section. Salem got 25th place at EVO 2015 with Lucina (which is better than anyone else has ever done with the character) and Nairo's secondary Lucina has taken sets off of players such as Angel Cortes (although I don't necessarily think this is enough to keep him listed). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 00:09, 17 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
Bump, maybe, now that OT is here? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 17:49, 20 April 2016 (EDT) | |||