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== Using the tabber for stages and moves==
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:The moves names should play no part in the decision : Would you consider Bayonetta's neutral attack to be a different move based on the selected palette (because the guns from Bayonetta 1 are not named the same as the guns from Bayonetta 2) ? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 07:27, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
:The moves names should play no part in the decision : Would you consider Bayonetta's neutral attack to be a different move based on the selected palette (because the guns from Bayonetta 1 are not named the same as the guns from Bayonetta 2) ? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 07:27, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
::You explained it perfectly. If some other character had a move called crownerang, I wouldn’t want to see all of K Rool’s advanced tech if I wanted to see the other crownerang. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:31, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
::You explained it perfectly. If some other character had a move called crownerang, I wouldn’t want to see all of K Rool’s advanced tech if I wanted to see the other crownerang. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:31, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
Alright so I made draft pages of what the merged starfox reflectors and and blasters would look like. Any edits are welcome incase it looks weird in some parts, but this was made for the purpose of seeing what it would look like and see if it can influence discussion on if the pages should be merged or not. The pages can be found at [[User:Xtra3678/Blaster]], and [[User:Xtra3678/Reflector]]. [[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 08:08, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
Alright so I made draft pages of what the merged starfox reflectors and and blasters would look like. Any edits are welcome incase it looks weird in some parts, but this was made for the purpose of seeing what it would look like and see if it can influence discussion on if the pages should be merged or not. The pages can be found at User:Xtra3678/Blaster, and User:Xtra3678/Reflector. [[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 08:08, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
:I’m going to be completely honest here: They look terrible. There’s a bunch of tech on Fox’s reflector that wouldn’t be possible on Falco anymore even wih Melee physics and it never applied to Wolf. All the drafts did was convince me that they should stay separate. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:31, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
:I’m going to be completely honest here: They look terrible. There’s a bunch of tech on Fox’s reflector that wouldn’t be possible on Falco anymore even wih Melee physics and it never applied to Wolf. All the drafts did was convince me that they should stay separate. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:31, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
::Thats why the techs only talk about fox mostly. They specifically mention fox only, and the ones that are applicable to falco mention falco. Plus this is still open to editing to make it look better on the merged page, but I still feel that merging reflector, and blaster is the smartest desision to make.[[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 12:35, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
::Thats why the techs only talk about fox mostly. They specifically mention fox only, and the ones that are applicable to falco mention falco. Plus this is still open to editing to make it look better on the merged page, but I still feel that merging reflector, and blaster is the smartest desision to make.[[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 12:35, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
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:::This is how I would organize the [[User:Xtra3678/Blaster|Blaster]] and [[User:Xtra3678/Reflector|Reflector]] pages. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:02, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
:::This is how I would organize the User:Xtra3678/Blaster|Blaster and User:Xtra3678/Reflector|Reflector pages. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:02, March 22, 2019 (EDT)
::::That looks a lot worse because we're not actually merging any information there, just putting it on one page and we have a lot of repeated information (like the entirety of the throws section in blaster). I feel what it looked like before was better because of the information being together and a lack of repeated information. [[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 01:22, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
::::That looks a lot worse because we're not actually merging any information there, just putting it on one page and we have a lot of repeated information (like the entirety of the throws section in blaster). I feel what it looked like before was better because of the information being together and a lack of repeated information. [[User:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Blue;">'''Xtra'''</span>]] [[File:Shulk_SSBU_foruser.png|25px]] [[User_talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: #CC0000">'''Edits'''</span>]] 01:22, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
:::::I just tried to make it resemble the [[Landmaster]] page, which is separated by character. Fox's info goes first, then Falco's, and finally Wolf's. Any repeated info can probably be rewritten into the Overview as that is most likely what they have in common, then the character specified info (such as minor differences, damage values, and techniques) can go in their respective character page. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 01:38, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
:::::I just tried to make it resemble the [[Landmaster]] page, which is separated by character. Fox's info goes first, then Falco's, and finally Wolf's. Any repeated info can probably be rewritten into the Overview as that is most likely what they have in common, then the character specified info (such as minor differences, damage values, and techniques) can go in their respective character page. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 01:38, March 23, 2019 (EDT)
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This will simply never get done, due to 2 different oppinouns by different groups being spread about repeatedly back at each other with noone taking each others arguments in to account, and nothing ever getting done. what can we do to get something done. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 6px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 13:20, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
This will simply never get done, due to 2 different oppinouns by different groups being spread about repeatedly back at each other with noone taking each others arguments in to account, and nothing ever getting done. what can we do to get something done. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 6px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 13:20, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
Just leave it alone tbh. Having them split or on one article barely matters in this case. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:29, April 4, 2019 (EDT)