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 :::That can be your opinion on what matters more between significance and importance, but is Jigglypuff as popular as Vincent? Besides not being important in the games at all, I have not seen any proof that Jigglypuff is a popular enough pokemon to be in SSB. To my knowledge, Jigglypuff is also unpopular as a smasher in ''Brawl'', both among casual and competitive smashers. So I highly doubt that Jigglypuff is among the top 10 pokemon among the people's want list and I don't see how including Jigglypuff is going to bring Nintendo more money. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 22:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 ::::The last part of your argument in flawed. Ganondorf and Link are also considered some of the worst characters, but should they be taken out of the next SSB? There are plenty of polls that you can look through, and in all of them Jigglypuff is pretty high. Just because the Anime has influence does not mean that it should be removed. Keep in mind that (to my knowledge) Nintendo has helped make the Anime, and there are plenty of influences to smash that are from TV shows or other non video game stuff (such as MK's final smash, Pikachu, Shadow Ball as Mewtwo's move, Lucario's appearence, etc) [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 06:10, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Why did some new user have to bring this back up? I really hate this debate. Now don't say the last part of my argument is flawed when it is not. Link and Ganondorf aren't insignificant or unpopular in their series. I brought up Jigglypuff's unpopularity as a smasher because a character's popularity as a smash character is probably what got borderline characters such as Sheik and Jigglypuff to return in Brawl (even Falco's popularity could have been what got the developers to bring him back and declone him) and is probably the main reason Mewtwo didn't return. But with Jigglypuff's nerf came the lost of the valuable popularity among competitive players, so for a borderline character such as Jigglypuff, its popularity is important for determining whether or not to bring it back in the next smash game. Now show me these show called polls that shows Jigglypuff is popular, and they better not be flawed like the one KingYoshi linked to. It cannot be a legit poll unless it allows a person to choose any damn pokemon they pleased, not just a select few that are presumed to be "popular". Why do you want the anime to have influence? ''Smash Bros.'' is a game about '''video game characters''', not '''anime characters'''. Therefore, all media outside of video games should not be factor in. Shadow Ball being Mewtwo's move has nothing to do with the anime or movie, he can learn the move in the video games. Stop saying Lucario is only in ''Brawl'' because of some stupid movie. Has it occurred to you that Lucario has some significance in the games as well as popularity? Also, Pikachu is the mascot of Pokemon, so stop saying it is a smasher just because of the anime. Just like Salad told KingYoshi on the IRC, if the anime was so influential, why isn't Meowth a smasher? Very simply, it has not influenced since the first ''Smash Bros.'' nor shall it ever again. There are also very few, if any, references to things outside of video games in ''Smash Bros.'' The only one you listed that is plausible is the naming of Meta Knight's final smash, the rest is you just being highly speculative. So stop trying to defend the anime, it hasn't influenced since the first SSB and it should never. Any one who does believe the anime should be influential is being highly ignorant of the fact that the Pokemon games came first and are far, far, FAR more important than the anime. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 06:49, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
+:::::Why did some new user have to bring this back up? I really hate this debate. Now don't say the last part of my argument is flawed when it is not. Link and Ganondorf aren't insignificant or unpopular in their series. I brought up Jigglypuff's unpopularity as a smasher because a character's popularity as a smash character is probably what got borderline characters such as Sheik and Jigglypuff to return in Brawl (even Falco's popularity could have been what got the developers to bring him back and declone him) and is probably the main reason Mewtwo didn't return. But with Jigglypuff's nerf came the lost of the valuable popularity among competitive players, so for a borderline character such as Jigglypuff, its popularity is important for determining whether or not to bring it back in the next smash game. Now show me these so called polls that shows Jigglypuff is popular, and they better not be flawed like the one KingYoshi linked to. It cannot be a legit poll unless it allows a person to choose any damn pokemon they pleased, not just a select few that are presumed to be "popular". Why do you want the anime to have influence? ''Smash Bros.'' is a game about '''video game characters''', not '''anime characters'''. Therefore, all media outside of video games should not be factor in. Shadow Ball being Mewtwo's move has nothing to do with the anime or movie, he can learn the move in the video games. Stop saying Lucario is only in ''Brawl'' because of some stupid movie. Has it occurred to you that Lucario has some significance in the games as well as popularity? Also, Pikachu is the mascot of Pokemon, so stop saying it is a smasher just because of the anime. Just like Salad told KingYoshi on the IRC, if the anime was so influential, why isn't Meowth a smasher? Very simply, it has not influenced since the first ''Smash Bros.'' nor shall it ever again. There are also very few, if any, references to things outside of video games in ''Smash Bros.'' The only one you listed that is plausible is the naming of Meta Knight's final smash, the rest is you just being highly speculative. So stop trying to defend the anime, it hasn't influenced since the first SSB and it should never. Any one who does believe the anime should be influential is being highly ignorant of the fact that the Pokemon games came first and are far, far, FAR more important than the anime. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 06:49, June 28, 2010 (UTC)