Forum:Further documentation on unplayable characters: Difference between revisions

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To clarify, I don't know what the current standards are on this, but from what I see on the wiki, if I were to go ham on it, I would probably cause a ruckus of some kind, so I'm writing this up.  

* Finally, my friend EyeDonutz made a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FknMeiZfcZjpCfz0PJcXpv6uaJv4TF5TYI0uvhvuspk/edit?usp=sharing spreadsheet] for Ultimate Giga Bowser as well, which I believe I've used for editing in the past.

* '''EDIT:''' Toomai brought up some stuff on Discord, regarding documenting the Brawl bosses. In terms of moveset pages, it makes sense to document them like [[Ken_(SSBU)/Command_input|command input pages]]; "Move 1" and so on. For numbering them, internal move order sounds correct. Collecting data on SSBU characters may be difficult given the difference in compilation, but Giga Bowser's is at least there.

I believe that unplayable characters should have pages akin to that of playable characters, talked from the perspective of playing against them, and playing as them, in separate sections, with the latter being pretty much as detailed as a playable character's. Therefore, I believe that my previous comment about the Giga Bowser and Wario-Man Final Smash pages is wrong, and that they don't go far ''enough''. Even simple overviews seem perfectly fair: We have character pages for characters from Project M and so on, and I would put hacking in playable characters like these ones on exactly the same level as them, personally. With at least the Melee community having discussions along these lines, it seems reasonable to have this information on the wiki to aid in future discussions. Other areas are doing better on documentation than SmashWiki as said before, and we should contribute to the progress in some capacity. From an encyclopaedic perspective, more is always better, and shutting things down with the idea of it being "bloat" is counter to a wiki's interests.  

Echoing OT's comment, if we want to be a comprehensive wiki, we should have all the data—including bosses, Final Smash transformations, and "only by hacks" characters. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Gamer'''</span>]] 10:00, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

So now there's a [[User:Plague_von_Karma/Rayquaza (SSBB)|Rayquaza (SSBB)]] page to show off what the Brawl stuff will look like if you're still interested in this being allowed through. Played a bunch of games with friends to evaluate each one, so I'm capable of going through them all at a later date. Toomai suggested I make a Template for these given their odd nature, but [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:Infobox_Character_Unplayable that didn't go well], would appreciate someone going through this with an iron-toothed comb to make it less awful. I've also added a nice little italic thing about the specifities of the page (went with "debug-playable" but could possibly be improved). With that, I believe I've got everything up that would demonstrate how these pages will go, and any feedback or edits are welcomed. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 02:05, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

'''Support,''' it's a good idea to go into detail about them. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 13:17, May 9, 2023 (EDT)