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::User specific: {{s|user|Sdkerr}}. He's from wikia.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">the</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">lord</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 00:14, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
::User specific: {{s|user|Sdkerr}}. He's from wikia.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">the</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">lord</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 00:14, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
:::If a vandal comes back, then we block them then. If they don't, then whatever. being extremely paranoid when most vandals aren't capable of causing extremely significant damage isn't the best thing to do. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 00:26, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
== Protection? ==
What do people think of the idea of protecting the noticeboard so it can only be edited by autoconfirmed users? I'm hesitating because I would like new users with legitimate reasons for wanting to get an admin's attention to be able to, but this page seems to be a vandalism magnet as well. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:42, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
:That would be an excellent idea Miles. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''INoMed'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''(Talk • '''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''Contribs)'''''</span>]]</sup></font> 13:45, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
::Only problem: Well-intentioned new users and IPs. They'll be left out. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''INoMed'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''(Talk • '''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/INoMed|<span style="color:red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''Contribs)'''''</span>]]</sup></font> 13:49, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
:'''Strong Support''' [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  13:47, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
::'''Weak oppose''' per INoMed's second point. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: black">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:52, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
:::'''Support'''. Tired of having to deal with this crap. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 14:07, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
:::Also, I feel like, if something were to happen (such as vandalism), other older users would catch it, or at the very least, the newer users could find someone who can the admin board. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 14:16, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
==Potential inappropriate username?==
{{IP|Failedabortion}} I'm not 100% on this so I'm putting it here, but this seems like an inappropriate username. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:15, April 14, 2019 (EDT)
== Rapid revert vandals ==
With the recent incident(s) with a particular vandal, I think it may be best to let these kinds of vandals (those who revert back to their edit as soon as possible) "win" for a bit, especially if there isn't someone online to block them. They want attention and are stalking the edit history, and by stalking the edit history ourselves to revert, they get that attention and get another opportunity. With the most recent incident, I let the edits sit for about 20 minutes. In that time they made less than 10 edits on about 4 pages. As soon as someone came online to "revert-on-sight", that quickly jumped up to over 50 edits in 10 minutes. They may hit more pages overall, but the edit history will be much cleaner and requires less effort. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 09:55, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
:That sounds like a terrible idea. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the 🦊[[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry''']]🐺. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:57, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
:This is a ''valid'' strategy but whether it's ''better'' is up in the air, especially if the pages being vandalised are kind of important. I would not recommend it but I wouldn't tell anyone to stop doing it. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 09:59, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
::The reason he stopped when his edits weren't reverted was because the page already looked like how he wanted it to look like. Every moment the page looks that way, a reader could encounter it, and this undermines the credibility of the site. The purpose of reverting vandalism on sight is to keep the pages the way they're supposed to be. A rapid back-and-forth of edits isn't as big a deal as a page staying vandalised for 20 minutes, because the edits are behind the scenes. The only circumstance in which not reverting the edits immediately is a good idea is when the edits are to things like user and talk pages, since these are far less visible and not of much importance to the average reader. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:02, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::Understood. I've been a little deep in the "behind the scenes" side which is probably why I was focused on the edit spam. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 10:16, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::I agree with Alex here, letting readers potentially see a vandalized page is a much more pressing issue than a vandal getting into a revert war with users. We want to minimize the amount of time a page is vandalized as much as possible. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:56, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
== Since IPs and non-autoconfirmed users can't edit this page... ==
So I had a private chat with an admin on Discord on how IPs/non-autoconfirmed users should notify the Wiki about any troublesome users, and we came to an agreement that the best way is for IPs/new users to ping an admin's talk page about the situation.
However, IPs and non-autoconfirmed users are not allowed to edit this page (for reasons I am well aware of, but we should still not ignore the IPs that are trustworthy), yet it does not give out any sort of advice on what they should do, so there should at least be a paragraph of that sort.
As I stated above, my suggestion is simply for an IP/new user to go to an admin's talk page, but I am curious if anyone else has better ideas. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 01:41, July 31, 2022 (EDT)
:Bumping this. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 19:15, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
People should simply be reporting this stuff to the discord most of the time to guarantee much faster responses, which has no restrictions for people to join. Accessing the #smashwiki channel on it requires the contributor role that you must have an autoconfirmed account to be given barring some exceptions, but that doesn't stop someone from reporting vandals in just the #general channel. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:24, August 23, 2022 (EDT)