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Sweet spot (hitbox)

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This article is about the most effective area of a hitbox. For the furthest point from which a character can grab a ledge, see edge sweet spot.
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The sweetspotted Knee Smash

The sweet spot of an attack is the area of the hitbox with the most desirable knockback effect - usually, the most powerful part of the attack. For example, in Super Smash Bros. Melee, the sweet spot for most of Roy's attacks is the area of his sword closest to his body, while Marth's is at the end of his blade, called a tipper. Sweet spots are critical to learn to master a character. Most sweet spots on moves come out straight away, e.g. the move has 2 hitboxes, one with a sweet spot and one very weak one. However, the sweet and sour spots of some attacks, such as Captain Falcon's forward aerial, Zelda's forward & back aerials, Link's up aerial & sex kicks depend on timing rather than the hitbox's emplacement. In this case, most of the attack's duration is the sourspot and only a few frames are the sweetspot.

Notable sweet spot moves

Notable sweet spot moves include:

  • Captain Falcon's Knee Smash forward aerial. The Knee is one of the best horizontal KO moves in Melee and Brawl, giving massive knockback when sweet spotted and an electric effect, but it is rather weak when sourspotted. The sweet spot is much harder to land in Brawl than in Melee.
  • Charizard's down tilt has a sweet spot at the tip of his tail, doing more damage and knockback than a non-sweetspotted down tilt. It also has a different sound effect as well as fire effect.
  • Ivysaur's Vine Whip has a sweetspot at the tip of the vine which deals considerable knockback.
  • Jigglypuff's Rest has a sweetspot at the eyes, which has extremely high knockback.
  • King Dedede's forward smash has a sweetspot at the tip or head of the hammer, giving extremely high knockback.
  • Kirby's Hammer in Melee has a sweetspot at the head of the hammer. When hit with the other parts it won't deal many knockback with no KO potential at all. With the sourspot being bigger then the sweetspot, it is rarely used in competitive play.
  • Luigi's Super Jump Punch has a sweetspot just before he jumps near the center of his elbow. If this hits a character, it will take high damage and knockback, plus a fiery effect and a distinctive 'ping' noise. Otherwise, the move deals a paltry 1% with minor set knockback.
  • Mario's forward smash is notable for having the most visible sweet spot (the flame that he shoots out of his hand).
  • In both Melee and Brawl, all of Marth's attacks except Counter have a sweetspot on the tip of the sword, a tipper, especially his forward smash which is very weak when non-tipped but very powerful when tipped.
  • In Melee, all of Roy's attacks except Counter have a sweetspot at the center of the sword.
  • Meta Knight's Shuttle Loop has a big sweetspot in the middle of the rising up motion, whereby powerful horizontal knockback is given.
  • Mr. Game & Watch's down smash at the very tip of the side of the hammers when they touch down send the opponent skyward instead of sideways.
  • Ness' back aerial is significantly more powerful if sweet spotted and it makes an electric sound effect as well.
  • Ness' forward smash has a sweet spot on the tip of his bat.
  • Ness' down aerial has a sweet spot that makes it a meteor smash.
  • Sheik's up smash has a sweetspot on the tip of her hands.
  • The end of Wolf's Wolf Flash is a very visible sweet spot, electrifying the opponent and possibly spiking them.
  • Peach's up smash is mostly sweetspotted on twirling arm, opposed to her body giving powerful vertical knockback.
  • Peach's side smash in Brawl is mostly sweetspotted in the area of the Tennis Racket, has high horizontal knockback, dealing more damage, and has the strongest semi-spike in the game.
  • All of Zelda's aerials save her neutral aerial and up aerial have sweet spots. Her forward and backward aerials are Lightning Kicks, giving very high knockback when sweetspotted, and her down aerial. Meteor Heel, has a sweet spot which is one of the most powerful spikes in the games.
  • The end part of Zero Suit Samus' side special move, Plasma Whip, has a visible, fire imbued sweet spot. It is also one of the easiest to hit with, as the whip will often push enemies into the sweetspot.
  • The Home-Run Bat has a sweetspot near its tip, also a tipper, but this is only useful in the Home-Run Contest as all parts of the bat one-hit KO.

*Unless otherwise indicated, these sweetspots are for Brawl.

Sour spot

A sour spot is the exact opposite of a sweet spot. A sour spot is an area with the least powerful part of the attack, such the tip of Roy's blade and the "jumping" portion of Luigi's Super Jump Punch. The sour spot, however, does not always have negative effects. For example:

  • The sour spot of Mario's forward aerial in Brawl will not meteor smash, but serves as a very powerful horizontal KO move. If it doesn't KO, it may actually allow Mario to follow up with the sweet spotted forward aerial while his foe has flown off the stage. This is a similar case with Luigi's down aerial in Melee and Brawl.
  • Luigi's sour spotted Super Jump Punch is good at surprising characters who must charge their recovery moves (like Fox and Luigi himself) and stealing KO's due to the small, practically unnoticeable knockback.
  • Marth's Dancing Blade (in both Melee and Brawl), if the third hit is green when not tipped, then his enemy is meteor smashed.
  • If Mr. Game & Watch's down smash is sour spotted, then his enemy is powerfully semi-spiked (in SSBB).
  • The sourspot Captain Falcon's down aerial in Brawl does high horizontal knockback for a non sweetspot and it can earn Captain Falcon many surprise KOs, especially since foes may DI the wrong way, thinking they are going down instead of horizontally.
  • Ness´ down aerial, if sourspotted, does high horizontal knockback, being a reliable KO move at high percentages.

As shown in the examples above, the sour spot of an attack can sometimes be more desirable to use than the sweet spot. Usually, this is due to a sour spot having somewhat bizarre, surprising knockback properties when compared to the sweet spot, as is the case with Mr. Game & Watch. The sour spot of an attack may also feature minimal knockback, which, provided the attack isn't extremely laggy, can allow a character to combo into different attacks, like Captain Falcon's forward aerial. Many of the scenarios where a sour spot can be useful in battle are highly conditional though, usually occurring off-stage.