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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! Though new requests for fights can no longer be made, voting on already existing requests can be done here.

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Round 151: Zero Suit Samus vs. Snake

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
Two body-suited mercenaries with access to artillery are up in this next bout. Which stealthy shooter trumps the other?
Votes for Zero-Suit Samus Starts out with free items. Enough said. Mr. Anontalk 11:33, 18 August 2012 (EDT) --TommyNook (talk) 12:34, 18 August 2012 (EDT) 204.191.141.32 13:35, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Snake, why are you even in Brawl? Slither off to PSASBR instead. Toast ltimatum 14:55, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Snake is way overrated. Toadat9021doh (talk) 20:32, 18 August 2012 (EDT) I don't really like Snake, Samus I'm neutral on. 69.112.244.140 21:43, 18 August 2012 (EDT)dragon She has great, erm, speed and weapons.Davsto (talk) 08:00, 19 August 2012 (EDT) ZSS was the first character I ever beat in Brawl, +10 memory points to ZSS and I hate using Snake. -5 slowness points to Snake. 10 to negative 5, barely a contest.--99.249.196.42 10:59, 19 August 2012 (EDT) Zero suit samus can jump behind snake at anytime to attack from well behind plus her speed is a huge advantage. PengyPenguin (talk) 19:32, 19 August 2012 (EDT) She should be her own separate character and not the result of Samus's final smash. ChuckNorris 11:49, 20 August 2012 (EDT) Three reasons I vote for her: A. Free items at the start of a match! B. Faster and more agile. And C. She's 10th on my list of my Brawl top ten. Snake isn't even on there. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 13:10, 20 August 2012 (EDT) Not as cheap. 67.173.145.76 21:49, 23 August 2012 (EDT) Z.S.S. was the first character I used when I started playing Brawl. Always begins a match with power suit parts at my disposal and can score KO's decently. Snake's alright, but his smashes and aerials are a chore to use correctly. 71.199.149.250 23:36, 23 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Snake Higher tier.Shanicpower Make it rain! 11:40, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Forward smash. That is all. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:43, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Samus without armor just looks gross. I hope she's not in the next game. Supersmash4 (talk) 11:48, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Tiers exist. Also, cooler. ShupaRoeh 11:49, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Solid Snake has more weapons and you can do a smash taunt!!! The Awesome 11:53, 18 August 2012 (EDT) ZSS sucks--Bandit 12:00, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Zero Suit Samus should be her own character and not part of a Final Smash; I hate passing up Smash Balls when playing as Samus. JamesHeartless 12:12, 18 August 2012 (EDT) If I vote for ZSS, people might get... the *ahem* wrong impression of me... Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 13:16, 18 August 2012 (EDT) I enjoy playing as Snake. Also, his DACUS is great. Shanderu 14:22, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Really like both characters, but Snake has the Smash Taunt. Krazy4Krash (talk) 22:58, 18 August 2012 (EDT) I really like both, but I'm better as Snake. 110.174.90.69 02:48, 19 August 2012 (EDT) FishPlay 20:25, 19 August 2012 (EDT) Metal Gear is one of the best series of all time. Naked Snake 01:26, 20 August 2012 (EDT) Pure masculinity. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 11:13, 20 August 2012 (EDT) The Cheese 11:17, 20 August 2012 (EDT) Powerful, manly, and he has a box.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 11:20, 20 August 2012 (EDT) Up tilt, forward tilt, and forward smash! That's all. Smash Master 16:05, 21 August 2012 (EDT)
Comments I think the vote sections are showing the wrong names...Shanicpower Make it rain! 11:42, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Just a note to one of the Snake votes: ZSS is playable without using a final smash, but you have to hold down the Z button while selecting Samus. Mr. Anontalk 12:24, 18 August 2012 (EDT) One of the votes for Samus has this misconception too. Naked Snake 12:46, 20 August 2012 (EDT) If I remember correctly, this was my suggestion, right? Mr. Anontalk 14:42, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Just checked, it was not. Mr. Anontalk 14:43, 18 August 2012 (EDT) How do you check that? 194.17.116.198 03:06, 22 August 2012 (EDT) I quickly scanned the history of the suggestions page and I found when the matchup was recently suggested. I was one of its earliest supporters, but I did not propose it. Mr. Anontalk 23:54, 23 August 2012 (EDT)

Round 150: The Spiffy One-Fifty

Waluigi vs. Tingle

		Winner!! Waluigi 27.5 to 5.5
The black sheep of their respective series, adored by some fans and abolished by others. Which eccentric elf comes out for the better?
Votes for Waluigi 204.191.141.195 23:49, 10 August 2012 (EDT) Anything but Tingle. Mr. Anontalk 23:51, 10 August 2012 (EDT) From the Mario series. ShupaRoeh 00:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) He's related to wario :| --Bandit 00:37, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Too bad. Waluigi time. Naked Snake 01:02, 11 August 2012 (EDT) He's PURPLE!!!! LightningBlue 01:06, 11 August 2012 (EDT) I may not like him but I guess he could do. Dots The PSI Asian 01:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Thought I was going to vote for Tingle because he's green? TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME! Davsto (talk) 03:20, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Per Mr. Anon.Shanicpower Make it rain! 04:35, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Tingle forces his brother and his friend to work non stop turning the wheel on his stupid little island, steals a camera and is probeley a mass murderer. Waluigi on the other hand is an amazing dancer.94.6.198.21 04:49, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Not Tingle. Krazy4Krash (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Waluigi Pinball... Plus, I hate Tingle. Who doesn't? Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Purple is a colour. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:11, 11 August 2012 (EDT) As much as I like Zelda, Tingle is just a little too weird. DragonMistress (talk) 11:32, 11 August 2012 (EDT) FishPlay 15:34, 11 August 2012 (EDT) WAAAAAALUIGI! I love Mario spinoffs, so my vote goes to the man with a gamma on his hat. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 15:43, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Waluigi is very underrated. Tingle however is a stupid character (And you can't deny it). Waluigi all the way! 107.2.128.251 17:55, 11 August 2012 (EDT) As much as I don't like Waluigi, my dislike for Tingle is much worse. ScoreCounter (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Per all, primarily vote 2. Tingle is one of the creepiest things of this universe. --68.43.192.71 07:32, 12 August 2012 (EDT) It's a shame that this man has not appeared in any games besides Mario spin-offs. ChuckNorris 10:12, 12 August 2012 (EDT) I totally vote for Waluigi.Wa,lu,igi! R2101 (talk) 18:37, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Waluigi has an item with him so he's more powerful!! The Awesome 13:17, 14 August 2012 (EDT) WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 98.238.254.158 22:56, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Per ChuckNorris24. This guy just doesn't get enough love. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:59, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Not nessesarily, Bowzerdude, but he is awesome. Marioisawesome118 14:05, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Not only do way more people know Waluigi then Tingle, but he actually assists you. He kicks fighters into the ground. Tingle puts flowers or balloons in the air. I really hope Waluigi's playable in SSB4 and he gets his own game soon. Trust me, I'd like the franchise way more if it were WaluigiWare. user:supersmash4 13:36, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Waluigi may be odd, but Tingle's just too odd. 67.173.145.76 22:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes Walugi nevers flees from the battle, but Tingle sometimes wants to be an airhead (pun intended with the baloons).-Kaizer24.185.135.102 09:24, 18 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Tingle His face. That clock. JamesHeartless 01:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) "TINGLE KOOLOO-LIMPAH!" Toadat9021doh (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2012 (EDT) I pity da foo. 24.168.106.119 12:11, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The Cheese 17:22, 13 August 2012 (EDT) I like Tingle, whereas I dislike Waluigi. --71.106.223.13 01:21, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes He may send a tingle up your spine, but his brothers in Minish Cap are awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ToastUltimatum (talk • contribs) 05:35, 15 August 2012 (EDT)
Comments

Mushroomy Kingdom 1-1 vs. Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2

		Winner!! Mushroomy Kingdom 1-1 18.5 to 13
Two variants of a single stage, both in brick-filled lands of ancient wonder, but of differing terrain and atmosphere. Does the underworld or overworld finish first?
Votes for Mushroomy Kingdom 1-1 Just for the classics. 204.191.141.195 23:49, 10 August 2012 (EDT) Above comment, and better music. Mr. Anontalk 23:52, 10 August 2012 (EDT) Classic. ShupaRoeh 00:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Less bricks--Bandit 00:37, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The legendary original first stage. Naked Snake 01:02, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Classic. Dots The PSI Asian 01:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Not as cramped. Allows actual fighting. Krazy4Krash (talk) 08:27, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Per ShupaRoeh and Krazy4Krash. Toadat9021doh (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Caves of life suck. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:11, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Less cause for lag, I guess. 24.168.106.119 12:12, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Better item placement (in my opinion), no huge breakable walls, and no U-smash kill zone. Thank you very much! DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 15:43, 11 August 2012 (EDT) You can actually KO people on this stage. ChuckNorris 10:12, 12 August 2012 (EDT) I love this level. It's the best.It's my favorite because I have New Super Mario Bros. DS and it's my favorite level. Go, 1-1! R2101 (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Let's-a-go!The Cheese 23:08, 13 August 2012 (EDT) I hate fighting on both of these levels, but overall 1-1 is more bearable. 110.174.90.69 02:56, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Because it's one of the first things people saw as soon as they turned on the NES game. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:57, 15 August 2012 (EDT) This section is my favorate. Marioisawesome118 14:05, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Even if you've never played a Mario platform game, this stage is way more understandable than 1-2. User:supersmash4 13:43, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes The first is almost always the best.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 09:21, 18 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 Oh come on, you dont like the Underground Theme for Super Mario Land??? Come on that's awesome! LightningBlue 01:04, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Better music. JamesHeartless 01:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Don't see why it's good to, but whenever I play on this stage, there are so many blocks then when I set off a bunch of smart bombs (They are the only items I use that can have lots of them onscreen at once) it lags so much that it is funny. Plus Super Mario Land underground and Super Mario Bros. Underwater themes FOR THE WIN! Davsto (talk) 03:23, 11 August 2012 (EDT) These both suck but the picture above has ike, bowser and mario in it where as the other one only has mario in it.94.6.198.21 04:47, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Get on top of the stage, Raptor Boost, instant win. Toast ltimatum 09:15, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Better music. Am I the only one that favors the SMB underground theme to the SML underground theme? Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) FishPlay 15:34, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Looks more like the original mario. ScoreCounter (talk) 18:14, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It is more explosive!!! The Awesome 13:18, 14 August 2012 (EDT) BEST. MUSIC. EVER.98.238.254.158 22:57, 14 August 2012 (EDT) I like the underground feel. 67.173.145.76 22:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT) I just like it while using Ness, even though I love the Gritzy Desert Theme in the other stage.--71.160.242.11 21:58, 17 August 2012 (EDT) This music is some of the best video game music of all time. --99.249.196.42 10:38, 18 August 2012 (EDT)
Comments Of course not, Air Conditioner. SMB underground theme is far superior. I hate the SML underground theme. I have haunting memories of that tune trying to unlock Wolf in the SSE. Krazy4Krash (talk) 19:45, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Dang, I was gonna suggest this until I found out that suggestions were disabled. Well, time to remove it from my list of SmashArena Suggestions. F1reBurn1ng (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2012 (EDT) KrazyKrash: seriously why did you try to unlock him in SSE? Just do it the hard way like everyone else done. It shouldn't have been that hard.  :/ LightningBlue 23:01, 12 August 2012 (EDT) Because I wanted to 100% the SSE. Why else? Besides, it wasn't hard at all. I'm just fooling around. I just don't like the theme, that's all. Krazy4Krash (talk) 02:45, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Cresselia

Winner!! Dialga 16.5 to 10 to 7
Three legendary Pokémon that provide the shenanigans of Spear Pillar. Will temporal distillation, spacial reflection, or lunar blades earn victory?
Votes for Dialga Awesome. 204.191.141.195 23:49, 10 August 2012 (EDT) Time is the ultimate power. Mr. Anontalk 23:52, 10 August 2012 (EDT) A Steel-Dragon type. ShupaRoeh 00:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Naked Snake 01:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It looks cooler? Dots The PSI Asian 01:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Cressilia always run from me, and I like Dialga better than Palkia.Shanicpower Make it rain! 04:42, 11 August 2012 (EDT) From a brawl viewpoint dialga is the least annoying legendary on this stage. From a pokemon viewpoint it looks cool.94.6.198.21 04:45, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Looks the coolest. Krazy4Krash (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It's cooler, less annoying and Diamond was still my first Pokémon game. DragonMistress (talk) 11:30, 11 August 2012 (EDT) My suggestion a while back! I like slow-mo much better than rotation or Psycho Cut. I also want Diamond. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 15:43, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Simply because he can control time. ScoreCounter (talk) 18:14, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Just because it's Dialga.174.20.251.84 18:38, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Because he's awesome.The Cheese 23:09, 13 August 2012 Palkia and Cresselia are going down. Go Dialga![User:--R2101 10:28, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Dialga is stronger than the rest of them!!! The Awesome 13:19, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Pokemon Diamond was my first Pokemon game. I remember beating so many pokemon with 1 Roar of Time. Ah, memories. --99.249.196.42 10:36, 18 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes Time can beat water anytime.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 09:15, 18 August 2012 (EDT)		Votes for Palkia I like that gear thing on his shoulder--Bandit 00:37, 11 August 2012 (EDT) 'Cuz it's fun when he mirrors the stage or turns it upside-down because it annoys everyone. Plus, he is amazingly underrated in the Pokémon series. Also, Water+Dragon=AWESOME. Davsto (talk) 03:25, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Water is the best type. Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The funnest of the trio. 24.168.106.119 12:13, 11 August 2012 (EDT) In Pokemon, Palkia is better in everything :| FishPlay 15:35, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Turning the stage 180 degrees. Your argument is irrelevant. --68.43.192.71 06:45, 12 August 2012 (EDT) He looks the coolest out of the three. ChuckNorris 10:12, 12 August 2012 (EDT) Palkia is probably the most annoying Pokémon to have on the Spear Pillar, and its Gen IV back sprite was very unfortunate, but Palkia is still my favourite Pokémon of these three. Toast ltimatum 10:34, 14 August 2012 (EDT) I like the whole concept of mastering time and space, though I think distorting reality is just a little bit better. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:53, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I really in fact love the color pink so yeah, I guess I like Palkia. Marioisawesome118 13:58, 15 August 2012 (EDT)		Votes for Cresselia Cutter is a dangerous hazard. :P LightningBlue 01:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The rarest of the three. Toadat9021doh (talk) You never see it coming. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:11, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The only one that can actually hit me...98.238.254.158 22:58, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Different. JamesHeartless 14:17, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I don't care about any of these, but this one deserves some votes 'cause he's doing so bad, whoever he is. Supersmash4 (talk) 01:36, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Different and exotic. 67.173.145.76 22:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT)
Comments Hey Toast, what exactly do you mean by Palkia's Gen IV back sprite being "very unfortunate"? Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:55, 15 August 2012 (EDT) It's not as bad as I remembered it, but still this isn't a smashing back sprite to have, is it? Toast ltimatum 14:03, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Well... I kinda guess you're right. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 07:01, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Smashman4, Cressielia is female in every circumstance. ShupaRoeh 22:38, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Anybody else get the feeling that Cresselia would be more suited had it been Giratina? 75.159.41.249 19:22, 17 August 2012 (EDT) Provided Giratina is in the same trio as Dialga and Palkia, you have a point. However, Giratina has not appeared in a Smash game, so he isn't included. ShupaRoeh 19:57, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

Barrel Cannon vs. Minecart vs. Slide Launcher

Winner!! Minecart 13.5 to 16.5 to 2
Three methods of personal personnel transportation are up in this bout. Will the winner be the blasting barrel, the rolling railcart, or the fling thing?
Votes for Barrel Cannon It's slightly more useful and can be controlled. Naked Snake 01:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The other ones are just in your way.Shanicpower Make it rain! 04:38, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Krazy4Krash (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Contains Kirby and Donkey Kong nostalgia. And I love that one gravity-defying barrel cannon at the end of the lake. Toadat9021doh (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2012 (EDT) BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! etc. DarkFox01: Smashing in Summer 15:43, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Minecart: Uncontrollable, can cause you to SD for no reason. Speed Launcher: Does nothing but speed you up. Barrel Cannon: Actually Useful. ScoreCounter (talk) 18:14, 11 August 2012 (EDT) WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!The Cheese 23:09, 13 August 2012 (EDT) See 698.238.254.158 22:59, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Neigh! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 06:13, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Kirby was the first game I ever played. That and Donkey Kong Country is an equally epic game. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:52, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Feels the most nostalgic (though I've only played DKC3 once). JamesHeartless 14:17, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I love the barrel canons in the all Dkc games its a blast. And when I saw the barrel canon in brawl's sse I went nuts. I hope you more barrel canons in ssb4.Smash X 5432 (talk) 14:03, 16 August 2012 (EDT) The most fun of the three in my opinion. :) 67.173.145.76 22:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes This is usually necessary, but the other two just get in your way. Mr. Anontalk 23:53, 10 August 2012 (EDT)		Votes for Minecart Has wheels. ShupaRoeh 00:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) I like roller coasters--Bandit 00:37, 11 August 2012 (EDT) ^ (btw Top Thrill Dragster is better Bandit :P).LightningBlue 01:03, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It rams into people. Dots The PSI Asian 01:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Just because. Davsto (talk) 03:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The slide launcher is just plain annoying and the barrel launchers don't give you the thrill that comes from waiting for the longest possibly time before jumping out of the mine cart.94.6.198.21 04:41, 11 August 2012 (EDT) This minecart is my cart. Toast ltimatum 09:15, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Wanna race? --Oh, you mean minecart, not Mario Kart. Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Requires no effort to use, mostly. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:11, 11 August 2012 (EDT) The Slider is mostly just annoying, and the barrel thing isn't as fun. DragonMistress (talk) 11:27, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Reminds me of Minecraft FishPlay 15:36, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It's so fun to ride in it. ChuckNorris 10:12, 12 August 2012 (EDT) This is an awesome ride! You just got to look out for the wall or the fall at the end. LOL![[User:--R2101 (talk) 10:39, 14 August 2012 (EDT)R2101|--R2101 (talk) 10:39, 14 August 2012 (EDT)R2101]] 10:38, 14 August 2012 (EDT) It looks like a fun ride to me!!!! The Awesome 13:21, 14 August 2012 (EDT) I love the mine cart because it's a vehicle that moves on WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELS. Marioisawesome118 13:58, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I was gonna vote for Barrel Cannon because it's from Donkey Kong Country, but train carts in video games are always more fun. Supersmash4 (talk) 01:38, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes You can just stay in the cart while it kills all of your enemies in front of you.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 09:20, 18 August 2012 (EDT)		Votes for Slide Launcher Kirby Nostalgia! 204.191.141.195 23:49, 10 August 2012 (EDT) I pity da foo. Again. 24.168.106.119 12:14, 11 August 2012 (EDT)
Comments lolno Kingda Ka will always be better.--Bandit 01:44, 11 August 2012 (EDT) @IP: actually Super Star had minecarts. Check the Great Gave Offensive. LightningBlue 03:32, 12 August 2012 (EDT)

Wavedash vs. DACUS

File:Wavedash.gif		Winner!! Wavedash File:Wavedash.gif 17.5 to 13
Two friction-defying techniques that define their respective metagames. Which sliding superpower overcomes the other?
Votes for Wavedash First, it's in Melee, a better game then Brawl (sorry Brawl fans). Second, you can wavedash yourself out of the stage to edge guard. That's pretty cool. Lastly, everybody has an advantage with it... no matter what. Fugudev 23:59, 10 August 2012 (EDT) It looks more technical--Bandit 00:37, 11 August 2012 (EDT) LUIGI WINS!!! LightningBlue 01:02, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Looks more impressive and requires more technical skill. Naked Snake 01:00, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Uh... I'm going to say wavedash because it has a cooler name :D Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 09:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Whee...FishPlay 15:38, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Wavedashing was a bread and butter technique for all players and all mains. Having infinitely more uses and versatility, it could do more than simply extend the hitbox of a smash attack. Wavedashing serves as form of safe approaching/retreating, a way to extend combos, and a safe Out of Shield option to escape pressure. You can both attack and powershield out of a wavedash, and use it as a way to provide synergy with ground movement and aerial attacks. Also nothing can match the advantage of moving backward while facing forward, which the DACUS does not provide.--BrianDon't try me! 15:08, 13 August 2012 (EDT) YES!!The Cheese 17:23, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Luigi is AWESOME!!!!! The Awesome 13:22, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Luigi is my favorite character out of all of them. Go wigi,go wigi,go wigi,go wigi! [User:--R2101 (talk) 15:27, 14 August 2012 (EDT) It shows Luigi. That is all.98.238.254.158 23:02, 14 August 2012 (EDT) Slightly easier to do and the must-know for newer players while DACUS requires knowledge of the game's system, which newer players don't have. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! 13:49, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I like wavedashing because it's fun to do. Marioisawesome118 13:58, 15 August 2012 (EDT) Featured in this video. JamesHeartless 14:17, 15 August 2012 (EDT) I actually understand this ability. If you want to see something that looks like running then random spinning around, look up, then right. Supersmash4 (talk) 01:41, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Seems more fun. 67.173.145.76 22:35, 16 August 2012 (EDT) Waveshining. Nuff said. 75.159.41.249 18:36, 17 August 2012 (EDT) Half-votes Its more fun.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 09:18, 18 August 2012 (EDT)			Votes for DACUS Don't care for wavedashing. 204.191.141.195 23:49, 10 August 2012 (EDT) It feels more fun. Mr. Anontalk 23:53, 10 August 2012 (EDT) You attack. ShupaRoeh 00:01, 11 August 2012 (EDT) It gives you a better approach and distance despite wavedashing being a good traveling technique. Dots The PSI Asian 01:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Because Falco taunts at the end of the gif, and Yoshi is there. Davsto (talk) 03:28, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Falco and Yoshi. Instant win.94.6.198.21 04:38, 11 August 2012 (EDT) I can DACUS. I can't wavedash. As a Link main, I would be dead without the DACUS. Krazy4Krash (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Wavedash was only elemental for three characters, none of which were high tier, don't know why y'all miss it so much. I can't DACUS because I'm a tap jumper, but bleh. Toast ltimatum 09:15, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Hands of my bread!!! Lols. DragonMistress (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2012 (EDT) Brawl is my game. 24.168.106.119 12:15, 11 August 2012 (EDT) I actually find this useful. ChuckNorris 10:12, 12 August 2012 (EDT) The DACUS is more useful, and with my second main (Falco), I can easily use this as an advantage. Smash Master 14:09, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Half Votes Useful in all three games, as opposed to one. And my top three in Brawl (Fox, Marth, and Falcon) all have a good DACUS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkFox01 (talk • contribs) 12:43, August 11, 2012 Wavedash is overrated. Nuff said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.2.128.251 (talk • contribs) 15:03, August 11, 2012
Comments @Darkfox: The DACUS is a brawl exclusive technique. You cannot use it in melee or ssb64 because the physics in both games don't allow the dash attack to be canceled. A moving up smash in melee is known a wavesmash (wavedash -> up smash) and a moving up smash in ssb64 is called a teleport up smash. Also of all the brawl mains you mentioned, only Fox has a sliding DACUS. I have tested this and both Falcon and Marth move no distance when I input their up smashes as DACUSes.--BrianDon't try me! 14:58, 13 August 2012 (EDT) Fox does not have a sliding DACUS, last I checked. For Falcon and Marth, I believe the user was confusing DACUS with a slide smash, and both Falcon and Marth have fairly far sliding slide smashes. Mr. Anontalk 21:18, 15 August 2012 (EDT) If you read the actual updated page, Fox does indeed have a sliding DACUS. I tested this and added that info. And even if Darkfox was confusing slide smashing and the DACUS, running up smashes don't exist in melee or ssb64 either.--BrianDon't try me! 14:29, 16 August 2012 (EDT)

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