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List of updates (SSB4-3DS)/1.0.4 changelog

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This is the list of known changes in version 1.0.4 of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. This update became available on November 17th or 18th, 2014.

Universal[edit]

  • Change Launch speed influence no longer affects moves that launch at angles between 65° and 115°, or between 245° and 295°, with directional influence taken into account. This improves the effectiveness of vertical finishers and combo tools.
  • Change DACUS has been removed, making certain up smashes slightly less versatile.


Bowser[edit]

  • Nerf Self-destructs using Flying Slam now KO Bowser first instead of the opponent. When Bowser is KO'd, the opponent is released from the grab, potentially allowing them to recover back onto the stage.
  • Change Certain properties of Fire Breath have been adjusted.


Giga Bowser[edit]

  • Buff What appears to be ending lag on most ground attacks has been removed.


Bowser Jr.[edit]

  • Nerf Down throw deals slightly less damage: 8% → 7.5%. It also does eight hits, down from ten.


Captain Falcon[edit]

  • Change Raptor Boost (and its custom variants) can no longer transition into the hitbox if it interacts with a damageable floor.


Charizard[edit]

  • Buff Four frames of intangibility have been added to Charizard's head for its shielding animation. This leaves Charizard less susceptible to shield stabbing, as its head is not covered by the shield during these first frames even at full health, and could therefore be hit prior to the change.
  • Nerf Dragon Rush deals less damage: 15% → 11%.
  • Change Some properties of what appear to be the headbutt in Rock Hurl and Flamethrower have been adjusted.


Dark Pit[edit]

  • Change Electrocut Arm (and its custom variants) can no longer transition into the hitbox if it interacts with a damageable floor.


Diddy Kong[edit]

  • Nerf Neutral infinite's loop hits deals less damage per hit (1% → 0.6%).
  • Buff Neutral infinite's loop hits launch opponents at a higher angle (60° → 70°/90°), they have lower set knockback (8 → 6) and they have a lower hitlag multiplier (2x → 1.3x). All of these changes overall make neutral infinite connect more reliably.
  • Buff Neutral infinite's loop hits have bigger hitboxes (2.8u → 3u).
  • Buff Neutral infinite's final hit has a larger hitbox (4u → 5u) which is positioned higher (y offsets: 5 → 5.5), improving its range.
  • Bug fix Diddy Kong can no longer use Peanut Popgun to cancel non-tumble hitstun.
    • Nerf This naturally hinders the move's utility at lower percents especially, as Diddy can no longer use Peanut Popgun to potentially escape combos.
  • Change Exploding Popgun can no longer hit damageable floors.
  • Nerf Monkey Flip's grab has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 19-36 → 20-36).
  • Nerf Monkey Flip and Flying Monkey Flip's grabs have smaller hitboxes (4u/5u → 3u/4u) which have been positioned closer to Diddy (z offset: 5/4 → 3/2), reducing their range.
  • Change Diddy's barrel jets from Rocketbarrel Boost (and its custom variants) have received additional visual wind effects.


Dr. Mario[edit]

  • Buff Forward aerial has increased knockback scaling (85 (early/late)/95 (clean) → 95/102)
  • Buff Down aerial's loop hits deal 0.336% more damage (1.568% → 1.904%)
  • Buff Down aerial has less landing lag (24 frames → 21).
  • Nerf Down aerial deals less damage overall due to having two less hits (14.336% → 12.88%).


Duck Hunt[edit]

  • Buff Up smash's first hit has received an additional aerial-only hitbox. As the previous hitbox was ground-only, this allows the first hit to affect aerial opponents.


Falco[edit]

  • Buff Forward aerial's landing hit deals considerably more damage (2% → 5%). Its knockback values were not compensated, drastically improving its KO potential.
  • Buff Forward aerial's landing hit extends farther horizontally (z offsets: 11/8 → 12/7), increasing its horizontal range.
  • Buff Down aerial has less ending lag (FAF 58 → 52) and landing lag (26 frames → 23).
  • Buff Blaster has a more generous repeat window (frames 7-14 → 7-17).
  • Buff Grounded Blaster has a shorter delay between shots (34 frames → 29).
  • Buff Grounded Blaster has less ending lag (FAF 64 → 59).
  • Bug fix Fixed a glitch in which Reflector Void failed to reflect Timber properly.
  • Change Landmaster's falling hitbox can no longer hit damageable floors.


Ganondorf[edit]

  • Buff All aerials' landing lag decreased: 22 → 18 frames (neutral), 25 → 23 frames (forward), 22 → 20 frames (back), 22 → 20 frames (up), 30 → 28 frames (down).


Greninja[edit]

  • Buff Greninja can be at its maximum fall speed for an additional frame before it is forced into hard landing lag when landing (6 frames → 7). This notably means that Greninja now goes into a soft landing after a short hop.
  • Nerf The hurtboxes on Greninja's central body and head are larger (2.6u (body)/2u (head) → 3.2u/2.5u) and the head hurtbox has been extended overall, making Greninja easier to hit.
  • Nerf Up smash has considerably higher ending lag (FAF 42 → 52), significantly hindering its combo potential and making it considerably more punishable.
    • In Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 1.0.0, the FAF was 50.
  • Nerf Up smash's first hit has a smaller hitbox (6.5u → 5u).
  • Nerf Up smash's second hit's sweetspot is smaller (7u → 6u) and it is positioned lower (y offset: -5 → -4), reducing its range.
  • Nerf Up smash's second hit's sourspot deals less damage (13% → 11%), significantly hindering its KO potential.
  • Nerf Up smash's late second hit deals less damage (11% → 10%) hindering its KO potential.
  • Buff Down smash deals more damage (11% (katanas), 9% (arms) → 13%/11%) without full compensation on its knockback scaling (93 → 90), significantly improving its KO potential.
  • Nerf Forward aerial has lower knockback scaling (92 → 84), significantly hindering its KO potential.
  • Nerf Up aerial's fifth hit now has set knockback (0 → 10) and no longer uses the auto-link angle (366° → 85°). This makes it connect less reliably with the final hit, along with making Greninja's drag down up aerial combos less consistent.
  • Buff Up aerial's fifth hit has a larger hitbox (5.5u → 6.2u).
  • Nerf Up aerial's final hit has lower knockback scaling (190 → 168), significantly hindering its KO potential.
  • Buff Up aerial's final hit's lower hitbox is slightly larger (6u → 6.2u).
  • Nerf Water Shuriken has more ending lag on the ground (FAF 25 (from release) → 32).
  • Buff Shadow Sneak and Shadow Strike have slightly higher knockback scaling (100 → 102 (forwards)/101 (backwards)).
  • Buff Shadow Sneak has less ending lag (FAF 77 → 67).
  • Bug fix Fixed a glitch where Greninja could cancel the landing lag from its aerials with Shadow Sneak.
    • Nerf This naturally hinders the mixup potential of Greninja's aerials on landing, as well as removing Shadow Sneak's ability to combo after certain aerials at specific percents.
  • Nerf Hydro Pump deals significantly less knockback (85 (base)/130 (scaling) → 65/100).
  • Nerf High-Capacity Pump has less set knockback (100 → 90).


Ike[edit]

  • Buff The third hit of neutral attack has less startup lag (frame 8 → 6), allowing it to connect more reliably.
    • Nerf However, its total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 40 → 39), giving it slightly more ending lag.
  • Buff Forward tilt has considerably lower ending lag (FAF 54 → 45).
  • Buff Down tilt has considerably lower ending lag (FAF 39 → 29).
  • Buff Down tilt deals more damage (7% → 8%).
  • Nerf Down tilt has smaller hitboxes (4u → 3.8u/3u).
  • Buff Down tilt now launches opponents vertically (361° → 80°) and it has more base knockback but less knockback scaling (50 (base), 90 (scaling) → 70/70). When combined with its lower ending lag, this grants down tilt combo potential.
    • Nerf However, this also hinders its edgeguarding potential.
  • Buff Down smash has less ending lag (FAF 74 → 71).
  • Change Down smash launches opponents at a lower angle (52° (hit 1/hit 2 (clean))/65° (hit 2, late) → 48°/61°.
  • Buff Forward aerial has less startup (frame 16 → 13) and ending lag (FAF 60 → 55).
  • Buff Forward aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 42 → 38), now being able to do so in a short hop.
  • Nerf Forward aerial has a shorter duration (frames 16-20 → 13-16).
  • Nerf Forward aerial has a shorter initial auto-cancel window (frames 1-5 → 1).
  • Buff Forward aerial has larger hitboxes (4.5u → 5u) although the far hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike to compensate for their horizontal range (y offsets: 9.5/6.5 → 9/6.2).
  • Buff Back aerial deals more damage (13% → 14%), improving its KO potential.
  • Buff Down aerial has larger hitboxes (4.8u/4.5u/5.3u → 6u/5.5u/6.3u).
  • Buff Great Aether's multi hits extend further away from Ike (z offset: 50/10/22/34/46 → 62/12/24/38/52), giving them more range.


Jigglypuff[edit]

  • Bug fix The instant reversal glitch of Rollout (by holding away while landing with Rollout when facing right) has been removed.
    • Nerf This slightly hinders Rollout's utility.
  • Bug fix There was previously an issue where if Jigglypuff landed with rollout while facing left and holding away, Jigglypuff could not turn around at any point after landing with Rollout and the move lacked a hitbox. This was fixed.


King Dedede[edit]

  • Nerf Forward aerial deals 1% less damage: 13% → 12%.
  • Buff Down throw's angle altered: 70° → 80°, making it less susceptible to DI.
  • Nerf Down throw's knockback scaling increased: 60 → 82. This hampers its combo ability at higher percents.
  • Nerf All variations of Gordo Throw require 1% less damage to be reflected: 3% → 2%.
  • Nerf All variations of Gordo Throw have had their hitbox sizes decreased by 0.4 units.
  • Change Dedede Burst's hammer hits transition into each other faster.
    • Nerf Due to the above change and the lower knockback on each hit, characters can now air dodge out of and escape Dedede Burst.


Kirby[edit]

  • Change Copy abilities whose base character's neutral special was altered by the patch have been altered in the same way.
  • Change Many behaviors, such as Stone and its custom variants and Final Cutter, have been adjusted.


Link[edit]

  • Buff Non-tipped forward smash's first hit's has lower base knockback (60 → 47), allowing it to more reliably lead into the second hit.
  • Bug fix Link can no longer throw a bomb with down special to cancel landing lag (outside of special moves which already could not be canceled).
    • Nerf This hinders the safety of his aerials and air dodge, hinders the combo potential of his aerials and it prevents Link from canceling hitstun if he lands while in non-tumble hitstun.
  • Bug fix Link can no longer throw a bomb with down special to cancel tumble hitstun.
    • Nerf This not only makes Link considerably more susceptible to combos, since he can no longer throw a bomb to cancel the hitstun and act sooner but this also considerably hinders his endurance, since he can no longer throw a bomb and then utilise momentum canceling to survive longer.


Little Mac[edit]

  • Nerf The period Little Mac can be at his maximum fall speed before using hard landing lag has been shortened: 4 → 3 frames.
  • Nerf End of roll intangibility: frame 17 → 15.
  • Nerf All hits of neutral attack except the first deal less damage: 3% → 2% (second), 8% → 7% (third), 1% → 0.7% (infinite).
  • Buff Due to their lower damage, neutral attack's second hit and infinite connect better into the following hits.
  • Change The first hitbox of forward tilt's each hit has a lower X-offset: -5 → -3.8
  • Nerf Neutral aerial's SDI multiplier increased: 1x → 2x.
  • Nerf Aerial Jolt Haymaker's distance decreased by 10% and its speed decreased.


Lucario[edit]

  • Nerf Forward smash's ending lag increased: frame 46 → 55.
  • Nerf Down smash's ending lag increased: frame 50 → 55.
  • Nerf Landing lag from helplessness increased: 36 → 60 frames.
  • Nerf Extreme Speed/Extreme Speed Attack hit 2 ending lag (frames): 0 → 8
  • Nerf Extreme Speed Attack hit 1 ending lag: 0 → 5


Lucina[edit]

  • Nerf Neutral attack's first hit deals less knockback (25 base/60 scaling → 20/50). While this does allow it to connect more reliably into the second hit from far ranges, this more importantly prevents it from linking into the second hit until much higher percents, hindering its reliability as well as its safety on hit.
  • Bug fix Fixed a glitch where using Counter after being edge-trumped no longer changes momentum.


Luigi[edit]

  • Buff Forward smash damage: 14% → 15%
  • Change Forward smash's side angle: 55° → 53°
  • Change Down smash's second hit angle: 70° → 60°
  • Buff Down smash's second hit knockback scaling: 80 → 100
  • Buff Forward aerial's hand hitbox radius: 4.8 → 5.6
  • Change Order of hitboxes of forward aerial reversed (no practical effect).
  • Buff Super Jump Punch (default) ground sweetspot radius: 1.6 → 1.7
  • Change Super Jump Punch (default) ground sweetspot z-offset: 6.1 → 7.0
  • Buff Super Jump Punch (default) air sweetspot radius: 2.1 → 2.2
  • Change Super Jump Punch (default) air sweetspot z-offset: 4.7 → 5.5


Mario[edit]

  • Change Up tilt deals less damage: 6.3% → 5.5%, but the slight knockback decrease the damage reduction brings makes it slightly easier to followup at high percentage.


Marth[edit]

  • Bug fix Using Counter after being trumped from the ledge no longer changes momentum.


Mega Man[edit]

  • Buff Mega Man now receives additional backwards momentum when aerial grab released (0 → -0.8). Because of this, Mega Man is sent much further out when aerial grab released; removing most of the guaranteed followups which were previously possible against him.
  • Bug fix Fixed bug where Mega Man could use Rush Coil to cancel hitstun.
  • Buff Leaf Shield can be acted out of sooner.


Meta Knight[edit]

  • Buff Neutral aerial deals more damage: 7% clean/5% late → 10%/7.5%.
  • Nerf Forward aerial's first two hits' aerial-only hitboxes have lower set knockback (90 → 40) and no longer use the autolink angle (366° → 85°), leaving them unable to drag opponents down and set up locks.
  • Buff Last hit of back aerial has increased knockback scaling: 180 → 212.
  • Buff Up aerial's Y offsets increased: 17/14 → 19/16, giving it more vertical range.
  • Buff Down aerial's Y offsets (-4.5 → -6.5) and Z offsets (3.5/4.5/-4.5 → 2.5/3.5/-5.5) are farther apart, increasing the move's range and coverage below Meta Knight.
  • Change The sword trails of up aerial and down aerial match the hitboxes better.
  • Buff Dimensional Cape has a more horizontal angle (60° → 53°) and higher knockback growth (105/93 → 107/98), improving its KO potential.


Mii Swordfighter[edit]

  • Change Certain hitbox properties have been adjusted.


Mr. Game & Watch[edit]

  • Change Properties of Octopus have been adjusted.


Ness[edit]

  • Buff The period Ness can be at his maximum fall speed before using hard landing lag has been lengthened: 4 → 5 frames.
  • Nerf PK Thunder and all custom variations have 6 frames more ending lag.
  • Buff Down throw's five hits have gained additional hitboxes, allowing them to hit Mr. Game & Watch.
  • Nerf Down throw's five hits before release deal less damage: 1% → 0.6%.
  • Nerf Down throw's release has increased knockback: 90 base/30 growth → 70/80, hindering its combo ability at high percents.


Olimar[edit]

  • Buff The Pikmin's safespot distance from Olimar has decreased (5 → 4), making them follow Olimar sooner.
    • Nerf However, there is also a shorter distance between the Pikmin's own safespots (5 → 4).
  • Buff All Pikmin except purple Pikmin run faster (40 → 60 (overall run speed), 2.4 (red/yellow/blue)/3 (white) → 3 (R/Y/B)/4 (W).
  • Buff Pikmin have increased follow distance (18 → 23) if they have to change direction.
  • Buff Pikmin follow the previous aerial velocity for a shorter period of time (15 frames → 8).
  • Buff Neutral, forward, and back aerials have less landing lag (17 frames → 15).
  • Nerf Pikmin Pluck can no longer be edge-canceled.
  • Nerf Red, Yellow and Blue Pikmin latched onto opponents deal less damage (1.3% → 1.1%).
  • Buff White Pikmin latched onto opponents deal more damage (2.6% → 3.7%).
  • Nerf Purple Pikmin throw deal less damage (6.5% → 6%).
  • Buff Pikmin Throw's additional latch time has been increased (200 frames → 300).


Pac-Man[edit]

  • Nerf Up smash's ending lag increased: frame 38 → 50.
  • Nerf Bonus Fruit's Galaxian deals less damage: 11% → 9%.
  • Buff Power Pellet heals more damage: 1% → 2%.
  • Buff Fire Hydrant takes more damage to be launched: 12% → 13%.


Palutena[edit]