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:Lack of a reputable source. The article you linked admitted it was just a 5ch post, which is certainly not on the level of Sakurai's statements about Rex, Alucard, etc. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:38, June 12, 2021 (EDT) | :Lack of a reputable source. The article you linked admitted it was just a 5ch post, which is certainly not on the level of Sakurai's statements about Rex, Alucard, etc. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:38, June 12, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Boss name sources == | |||
Per your edit on the Dracula page, the boss name sources are from "Dairantou Smash Brothers X: The Complete Guide" (大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX ザ・コンプリートガイド) for Brawl's bosses and "Dairantou Smash Brothers SPECIAL Official Guide" (大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ SPECIAL オフィシャルガイド) for Ultimate's. The former is published by Dengeki Nintendo, a Japanese Nintendo magazine, and the latter is published by Kadokawa, which is a major Japanese publisher. Both are officially licensed by Nintendo, similar to something Prima or Nintendo Power would have put out back when physical strategy guides were more of a thing over here. | |||
I'm sourcing the name from Japanese wikis that cite said guides, so it's a secondary source as it's a bit expensive to buy the guides from Japan, but I've cross-referenced the names on over a dozen different websites to ensure that the names are real and accurate and from what I can tell, all the move names are used pretty universally across the Japanese internet (citing the guides each time) and I have no reason to believe they're fan-made. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 19:45, June 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I'm not realistically expecting you to purchase a Japanese guide. Rather, I just have my doubts about the "official" status of them. Personally, since the names in several cases don't match up with very well-established canon names from other sources, I find the listings to be at least somewhat dubious. If you want them re-instated, I suggest making a particular talk page post on the subject on one of the boss pages if you think I'm in a minority position on this. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:15, June 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I do agree with your concern that some of them don't match up perfectly, but I'm assuming a lot of those are just descriptors used for one reason or another. However, for a lot of the move names (namely the bosses original to Smash) there are literally no other move name sources. The move names are in an officially licensed and published book from as far as I can tell, and I feel totally writing them off completely due to some more generic descriptors for certain attacks with established names is just throwing away information. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 21:11, June 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::As I said, I'm quite hesitant here, but I can't really gauge if I'm being overcautious or not - hence my suggestion that you start a discussion to see if I am an outlier or not on the subject. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:21, June 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
So, it's been a few weeks and so far no one chimed in about the note I left on the talk page about boss names per this issue. What should I do now? [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 21:49, July 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Feel free to bump the discussion by posting on the talk page, on the Discord, or both. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:10, July 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Image restore == | |||
It appears a recently deleted image (ThegameandwatchUserboxIcon.png) is back in use. Seems the user commented out the page it was on, leading to it being "unused". Should it be restored if possible? --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:28, June 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== "Color" or "Colour" == | |||
I had brought up in the SSBU Alts page that were using the spelling "Colour" instead of "Color". When I pointed it out, it would have appeared the reasoning why it was change was because Smash used "grey" instead of "gray". Because it was already consistent the way it was before, someone reverted it back to the American spelling. Looking at Manual of Style, there seems to be no preference as long as it is consistent in the article. I ask this as I see a 62 other pages using "Colour" when searching the spelling on the Wiki. Do we just change it to whatever is used the most in the article if more than one spelling is currently used in it? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 02:26, July 2, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I believe CanvasK and the Manual of Style adequately answered this question for you already. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:29, July 2, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_spirits_(The_Legend_of_Zelda_series)&curid=87484&diff=1598704&oldid=1598701 Regarding this] == | |||
Trying to avoid edit warring, but your edit is factually wrong. Literally on ZeldaWiki's {{iw|zeldawiki|Toon Link}} article: "Toon Link's... design is based on Link's more recent "cartoon" appearance starting with '''Four Swords''' and The Wind Waker". Further supported by the fact that in some regions, Four Swords was released before Wind Waker. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:20, July 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Four Swords nominally came out first, but just barely (less than 2 weeks difference) and the art style was clearly developed for Wind Waker first with the Four Swords component being thrown onto the port of A Link to the Past after Wind Waker was well into development. It's evidently a "Wind Waker artstyle" that happened to get a tie-in that technically came out first, and that technicality doesn't really change that it wasn't originally created for Four Swords. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:29, July 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I would argue that's more of a technicality than just saying they both came out at the same time. In Korea and Japan, yes, Wind Waker did come before Four Swords, but the opposite is true for US, Europe, and Australia. It would be far simpler to just say the design debuted in both those games, especially since ZeldaWiki says the same. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:48, July 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::Given that Wind Waker is a main 3D game with a much longer development cycle, as opposed to Four Swords being a secondary addendum to a port, combined with Smash featuring Wind Waker substantially more prominently, I think we can leave this pedantic nitpick to the Toon Link infobox where it already is and ignore it otherwise. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:00, July 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Rapper Mario 4chan leak == | |||
There's a "Rapper Mario Leak" over on 4chan. Can you add it to "List of rumors? [[User:Hassantaleb123|Hassantaleb123]] ([[User talk:Hassantaleb123|talk]]) 19:34, August 4, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I sincerely doubt that such a thing has a shred of credibility. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:40, August 4, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::It got the reveal of Pyra/Mythra, Kazuya and the Dante Mii Costume right, but yeah you're probably right, the thing could end up being false. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hassantaleb123|Hassantaleb123]] ([[User talk:Hassantaleb123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hassantaleb123|contribs]]) 19:47, August 4, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
:::The "leak" is incredibly vague in its wording, meaning that it's "correct" predictions were more or less lucky guesses or coincidences. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:43, August 4, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Kirby&curid=644&diff=1620651&oldid=1620646 This revert] == | |||
Isn't it our custom to use artwork from the newest games? [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 00:42, September 24, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Even if it is, I believe the custom is to regardless do that ''after'' the game comes out. Maybe I'm confusing us for MarioWiki, though. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:47, September 24, 2021 (EDT) | |||
I have repeatedly emphasized that newer isn't always better. In fact I generally oppose using any art newer than the character's last appearance in Smash under most circumstances. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:01, September 24, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Reuse of Lazarus Logo == | |||
Hi there! I'm currently trying to make a page for Lazarus Esports (an esports organization that sponsors {{Sm|SuperGirlKels}} and {{Sm|Soar}}. As I was trying to upload their team logo, I was met with a notification telling me that you deleted a previous version of the logo (the one I'm using seems to be different from that one). Would it be fine if I resubmitted it, this time with a purpose? Thank you in advance :) [[User:Z0mpin|Z0mpin]] ([[User talk:Z0mpin|talk]]) 11:54, October 15, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:The image was only deleted for having been unused for several days after its upload. It would be fine to upload such an image if it actually gets used for something. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:20, October 15, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== That IP you blocked yesterday should have a longer block == | |||
[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:208.102.171.122 This still-blocked IP] has a very similar IP number and address, as well as similar hostile behavior to [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Log?type=block&user=&page=User%3A+208.102.169.8 this one you blocked yesterday.] Even if they weren't the same, the statements they made on their talk page about [[User talk:208.102.169.8|another user being "stupid" and "braindead"]] and the [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Ken_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=1638548 hilariously ironic] [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Wii_Fit_Trainer_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=1638549 edit summaries] should qualify for way more than 3 days' worth. I'd honestly say go for 6 months again. | |||
Should they continue, it would also probably be worth mentioning that [https://www.thefreedictionary.com/voicer voicer means somebody who voices criticism or tunes an organ, and has nothing to do with acting]. (Unrelated and more casual, but they commented on their talk page also has atrocious grammar such as ""Voicer" is more sensical term than "Voice Actor"", which kind of implies they don't actually know that much about english, which I find kind of funny). [[Special:Contributions/157.242.208.122|157.242.208.122]] 02:37, November 19, 2021 (EST) | |||
== The Swamp == | |||
Yes I have experienced firsthand that unless the theme of the Pokemon Center is unlocked it will not play in the battle against jigglypuff. [[Special:Contributions/162.233.176.177|162.233.176.177]] 11:13, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
:If that's the case, do you recall what track played instead? Either way, we should work to verify this. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:21, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
:Or not, because I answered before checking Recent changes to see your behavior. Anyway, if anyone else can verify this fact either way, feel free to update the page accordingly. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:22, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
::I can confirm that Pokémon Center will still play without being unlocked. I've recorded a video as proof [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBLvJTTgcQ here]. I forgot I had the recorder muted in the first half for other things, and if you trust me then just skip to around 6 minutes because I am not good at Brawl. This save has about 6 stickers and 200 are needed to unlock the song. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:44, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::That's what I figured would be the case. Thanks for the double-check. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:04, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
== Potd == | |||
If you’re still around, are you gonna update that page? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 20:11, May 29, 2022 (EDT) | |||