User talk:Cookies and Creme: Difference between revisions

::"I also think his decline on the second list has more to do with rising perceptions of other characters than falling perceptions of Ness. A similar argument can be made for his overall representation in tournaments. I think the absence of Ness in rankings is more about players of Ness becoming less active than the character actually getting worse. "

:I feel like this is where we mostly disagree, as I do believe Ness's results at the top level is definitely worse than it was in previous years, which as I said before was one of the reasons that factored into the drop. Ness's best players becoming less active is also true to an extent, but Ness didn't lose any of his biggest contributors to retirement: his biggest loss was either Awestin, FOW, or S1, but the former two were never actually ranked on any global ranking while at his peak S1's performances were never at the same level as Gackt, Scend, or even Syrup (OrionRank 2019 was more janky of a ranking compared to OrionRank 2022). Outside of this, I did also state that "Ness's top level results remained stagnant" and I believe that is probably the best way to put it. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:40, February 23, 2024 (EST)