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==question==
==question==
how do you link to SmashWiki pages from non smash wiki, wikis? [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
how do you link to SmashWiki pages from non smash wiki, wikis? [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 17:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Just do the link as you would normally (<nowiki>[[page name]]</nowiki>) but put "w:c:super-smash-bros:" before the name of the page you want to link to. If, for example, I wanted to link to my user page from another wiki, I would use <nowiki>[[w:c:super-smash-bros:User:PenguinofDeath]]</nowiki>. As with all links of that type, using something like <nowiki>[[w:c:super-smash-bros:User:PenguinofDeath|this]]</nowiki> would make the link appear as [[w:c:super-smash-bros:User:PenguinofDeath|this]]. Hope that helped. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Just do the link as you would normally (<nowiki>[[page name]]</nowiki>) but put "w:c:super-smash-bros:" before the name of the page you want to link to. If, for example, I wanted to link to my user page from another wiki, I would use <nowiki>[[w:c:super-smash-bros:User:PenguinofDeath]]</nowiki>. As with all links of that type, using something like <nowiki>[[w:c:super-smash-bros:User:PenguinofDeath|this]]</nowiki> would make the link appear as [[User:PenguinofDeath|this]]. Hope that helped. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 17:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, you have to use dashes. Thanks, I was trying many different versions of it and would never have thought to use them. [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 20:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, you have to use dashes. Thanks, I was trying many different versions of it and would never have thought to use them. [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 20:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


==hang onnnnn==
==hang onnnnn==
It says on your page that you have mastered wavedashing, teching and other high level techniques. Teching is not a high level technique in my opinion. It may be hard for many people, but if you have quick reflexes it is fairly simple. {{unsigned|The Hobster|17:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)}}
It says on your page that you have mastered wavedashing, teching and other high level techniques. Teching is not a high level technique in my opinion. It may be hard for many people, but if you have quick reflexes it is fairly simple. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Hobster|The Hobster]] ([[User talk:The Hobster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Hobster|contribs]]) 17:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)</small>
:I asume that you think yourself to have faster reflexes then clarinet hawk. NO ONE has faster reflexes then Clarinet Hawk. Also, sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or die! [[User:Clarinet Hawk fan|Clarinet Hawk fan]] ([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk fan|talk]]) 16:38, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
:I asume that you think yourself to have faster reflexes then clarinet hawk. NO ONE has faster reflexes then Clarinet Hawk. Also, sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or die! [[User:Clarinet Hawk fan|Clarinet Hawk fan]] ([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk fan|talk]]) 16:38, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


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==Howdy==
==Howdy==
Hi Whats Up-LuigiTheSmasher52 {{Unsigned|Luigithesmasher52}}
Hi Whats Up-LuigiTheSmasher52 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Luigithesmasher52|Luigithesmasher52]] ([[User talk:Luigithesmasher52|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Luigithesmasher52|contribs]]) </small>
:I suggest you sign your comments with four tidles. [[User:Y462|Y462]] <small>([[User talk:Y462|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Y462|C]]  • [[Special:Editcount/Y462|E]] )</small> 22:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
:I suggest you sign your comments with four tidles. [[User:Y462|Y462]] <small>([[User talk:Y462|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Y462|C]]  • [[Special:Editcount/Y462|E]] )</small> 22:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


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==Talk page==
==Talk page==
Why'd you delete my talk page? :( {{unsigned|尺eed|22:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)}}
Why'd you delete my talk page? :( <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:尺eed|尺eed]] ([[User talk:尺eed|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/尺eed|contribs]]) 22:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)</small>
:It was a blank page, and, before all content was removed, it was just being used as a second user page, so there was no point un-blanking the page, so he deleted it. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 10:18, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
:It was a blank page, and, before all content was removed, it was just being used as a second user page, so there was no point un-blanking the page, so he deleted it. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 10:18, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


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::Hey Koro, could you please upload the SSB matchup table and place it on the [[matchup]] article? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 00:56, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
::Hey Koro, could you please upload the SSB matchup table and place it on the [[matchup]] article? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 00:56, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


how would i use or make a signature? {{unsigned|Tri-Rain}}
how would i use or make a signature? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Tri-Rain|Tri-Rain]] ([[User talk:Tri-Rain|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tri-Rain|contribs]]) </small>


== what ==
== what ==
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== Faulty comment on my talk page ==
== Faulty comment on my talk page ==


I wasn't trying to stir up any trouble, nor troll. I was just speaking my mind, which happened to be against this site's faulty Ganondorf article. I feel that tournament success is unnecessary in deciding a character's abilities, and that it should instead be decided on how well someone can use different characters. I'm sorry for vandalizing your site by saying that practice overruns widespread preference, but can you argue and say that the statement is not true? And besides, how could I contribute to this site? It seems to have virtually all in-game data and more somewhere, and from personal experience, I heavily doubt my posts will receive a warm welcome. {{unsigned|SSBC|22:19, March 16 2010 (UTC)}}
I wasn't trying to stir up any trouble, nor troll. I was just speaking my mind, which happened to be against this site's faulty Ganondorf article. I feel that tournament success is unnecessary in deciding a character's abilities, and that it should instead be decided on how well someone can use different characters. I'm sorry for vandalizing your site by saying that practice overruns widespread preference, but can you argue and say that the statement is not true? And besides, how could I contribute to this site? It seems to have virtually all in-game data and more somewhere, and from personal experience, I heavily doubt my posts will receive a warm welcome. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SSBC|SSBC]] ([[User talk:SSBC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SSBC|contribs]]) 22:19, March 16 2010 (UTC)</small>
:#The Ganondorf article is not "faulty". It simply tells it how it is - that Ganondorf is not very useful under tournament rules and in the metagames of the most skilled players.
:#The Ganondorf article is not "faulty". It simply tells it how it is - that Ganondorf is not very useful under tournament rules and in the metagames of the most skilled players.
:#You were not vandalising by saying that "practice overruns widespread preference", since such is inherently true. But again, in the context of competitive play and the tier list, practice is irrelevant - it is assumed that all players are at the highest level.
:#You were not vandalising by saying that "practice overruns widespread preference", since such is inherently true. But again, in the context of competitive play and the tier list, practice is irrelevant - it is assumed that all players are at the highest level.
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:#On talk pages, always put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your posts. This signs them for you.
:#On talk pages, always put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your posts. This signs them for you.
:[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 00:31, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 00:31, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Next time, I'll make sure to base my opinion on characters from popularity rather than core taste. And simply correcting a grammatical error wouldn't seem to pay some sort of debt I have to this site. I'm sure you want something that goes a longer way out of me. And if I'm not mistaken, I believe you said you won't accept my signature. {{unsigned|SSBC|19:12, Marth 17, 2010 (UTC)}}
Ah, I see. Next time, I'll make sure to base my opinion on characters from popularity rather than core taste. And simply correcting a grammatical error wouldn't seem to pay some sort of debt I have to this site. I'm sure you want something that goes a longer way out of me. And if I'm not mistaken, I believe you said you won't accept my signature. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SSBC|SSBC]] ([[User talk:SSBC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SSBC|contribs]]) 19:12, Marth 17, 2010 (UTC)</small>
:#You seem to be forgetting something about wikis - articles are to be objective and opinion-free. I agree with you that tier lists are lame and cause newbies to act like MK is teh bezt evar, and that tournaments aren't how the game was designed. But I also do not ignore the facts that some characters do better than others under tournament rules, and as a game designer myself, I know it's essentially impossible to balance everything for every situation - including the ones you can't plan for.
:#You seem to be forgetting something about wikis - articles are to be objective and opinion-free. I agree with you that tier lists are lame and cause newbies to act like MK is teh bezt evar, and that tournaments aren't how the game was designed. But I also do not ignore the facts that some characters do better than others under tournament rules, and as a game designer myself, I know it's essentially impossible to balance everything for every situation - including the ones you can't plan for.
:#You can be a perfectly good contributor by doing minor edits; as long as they improve the wiki nobody really cares how significant they are.
:#You can be a perfectly good contributor by doing minor edits; as long as they improve the wiki nobody really cares how significant they are.
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== Request to re-add NWX page ==
== Request to re-add NWX page ==


hi i understand that you deleted my info off of this site i dont have a problem with it because i didnt inform you or anyone else here but yea if you can bring back the page i made id appreciate it. thanks, NWX {{unsigned|NWX|12:07, March 26, 2010 (UTC)}}
hi i understand that you deleted my info off of this site i dont have a problem with it because i didnt inform you or anyone else here but yea if you can bring back the page i made id appreciate it. thanks, NWX <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:NWX|NWX]] ([[User talk:NWX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NWX|contribs]]) 12:07, March 26, 2010 (UTC)</small>
:I believe the page was deleted because it was so badly written that the deletor couldn't make heads or tails of whether you were [[SW:NOTE|notable]] enough. You're free to put (almost) whatever you want on your user page, but to have a smasher page, you have to fit to notability criteria - and without spell/grammar-checking, it certainly looks like an amateur. (And on talke, pages, always put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your comments so the system can sign them for you.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 16:29, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the page was deleted because it was so badly written that the deletor couldn't make heads or tails of whether you were [[SW:NOTE|notable]] enough. You're free to put (almost) whatever you want on your user page, but to have a smasher page, you have to fit to notability criteria - and without spell/grammar-checking, it certainly looks like an amateur. (And on talke, pages, always put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your comments so the system can sign them for you.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 16:29, March 26, 2010 (UTC)


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:::::Are you serious?  No, really:  are you actually serious?  I will quote the guidelines:  '''"Beyond conversations about edits to the wiki, minor outside conversations are perfectly acceptable. However, do not extend these into being chat rooms, message boards, and/or e-mail accounts."''''  Please, if this isn't clear, let me know, but I don't see how it isn't.  Learn to post properly or leave.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 04:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Are you serious?  No, really:  are you actually serious?  I will quote the guidelines:  '''"Beyond conversations about edits to the wiki, minor outside conversations are perfectly acceptable. However, do not extend these into being chat rooms, message boards, and/or e-mail accounts."''''  Please, if this isn't clear, let me know, but I don't see how it isn't.  Learn to post properly or leave.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 04:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


im tired of you. you dont need to burst into a debate of mine nad just yell "THE DEBATE R USELESS". are you just saying that cuz its my debate? and "refusal to learn"? dude... are you that one sided? -_- {{unsigned|Zelda101}}
im tired of you. you dont need to burst into a debate of mine nad just yell "THE DEBATE R USELESS". are you just saying that cuz its my debate? and "refusal to learn"? dude... are you that one sided? -_- <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zelda101|Zelda101]] ([[User talk:Zelda101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zelda101|contribs]]) </small>
::Um, what the hell are you talking about?  I didn't "burst into a deabte" of yours, I tried to tell you that the talk page wasn't the right place and you weren't using it correctly.  I then linked you to the user talk page guidelines, which can't be any clearer on the subject.  I would know, I wrote them.  Basically, there is a correct way to use the user talk pages which is for what we are doing now and an incorrect way which is what you keep reverting your page to.  I'm going to spell this out very plainly to you:  '''User Talk pages are for discussing said user's edit to the wiki'''.  Forums are for discussing which characters should be in SSB4, and had you actually looked you would have realized that there is already a forum for that.  So basically, you've managed to make a duplicate forum in the wrong place (something that is not appriciated on ''any'' gaming website) and then continually remade/reverted said forum and flamed that admin that told you to stop.  You're going for an inside the park home-run as it comes to bad posting.  Here's my advice, stop at third and I don't permaban you.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 02:36, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
::Um, what the hell are you talking about?  I didn't "burst into a deabte" of yours, I tried to tell you that the talk page wasn't the right place and you weren't using it correctly.  I then linked you to the user talk page guidelines, which can't be any clearer on the subject.  I would know, I wrote them.  Basically, there is a correct way to use the user talk pages which is for what we are doing now and an incorrect way which is what you keep reverting your page to.  I'm going to spell this out very plainly to you:  '''User Talk pages are for discussing said user's edit to the wiki'''.  Forums are for discussing which characters should be in SSB4, and had you actually looked you would have realized that there is already a forum for that.  So basically, you've managed to make a duplicate forum in the wrong place (something that is not appriciated on ''any'' gaming website) and then continually remade/reverted said forum and flamed that admin that told you to stop.  You're going for an inside the park home-run as it comes to bad posting.  Here's my advice, stop at third and I don't permaban you.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 02:36, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
:Actually it's his job. That's what he does here. That's what Wikia wants him to do. You're doing things wrong, and your attitude is bad. Please, be more respectful, consider carefully what you are going to say before posting again. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:52, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Actually it's his job. That's what he does here. That's what Wikia wants him to do. You're doing things wrong, and your attitude is bad. Please, be more respectful, consider carefully what you are going to say before posting again. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:52, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
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== You deleted my page? ==
== You deleted my page? ==


My page, "Game & Watch Uair Glitch" was deleted with the comment "not a glitch."  Can you elaborate? {{unsigned|74.185.178.90|02:28, June 24, 2010 (UTC)}}
My page, "Game & Watch Uair Glitch" was deleted with the comment "not a glitch."  Can you elaborate? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:74.185.178.90|74.185.178.90]] ([[User talk:74.185.178.90|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.185.178.90|contribs]]) 02:28, June 24, 2010 (UTC)</small>
:G&W's uair produces hitboxes that do 0% damage. Bosses are immune to the push effect, so they take hitlag as usual (and the damage number flickers as well). No damage is dealt. It happens with all hitboxes that do 0% damage, not just G&W's uair, and it's not a glitch. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 02:32, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
:G&W's uair produces hitboxes that do 0% damage. Bosses are immune to the push effect, so they take hitlag as usual (and the damage number flickers as well). No damage is dealt. It happens with all hitboxes that do 0% damage, not just G&W's uair, and it's not a glitch. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 02:32, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


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Your talk page is over twice the size of the recomended archive size. Don't you think it's time for an archive? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 16:13, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
Your talk page is over twice the size of the recomended archive size. Don't you think it's time for an archive? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 16:13, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
==Character Images==
==Character Images==
Recently extra character artwork not relevant to Smash Bros. is getting purged (i.e. [[Ganondorf]]'s OoT artwork, which isn't needed here). Why is the extra Peach artwork needed? If any other artwork, then her early Pauline artwork? '''<span style="font-family:Chiller;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>''' 19:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
Recently extra character artwork not relevant to Smash Bros. is getting purged (i.e. [[Ganondorf]]'s OoT artwork, which isn't needed here). Why is the extra Peach artwork needed? If any other artwork, then her early Pauline artwork? '''<span style="font-family:Chiller;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">Reaper</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>''' 19:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
:As it was the earliest image of her on the page, it served encyclopedic purposes.  I would contend that Ganondorf's OoT artwork should also be up as it (directly or indirectly) influenced his Melee art.  The practice of purging information should not be taken so far that basic information about characters, including the art history of them (so people can see the development of the character), is relegated to other wikis.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
:As it was the earliest image of her on the page, it served encyclopedic purposes.  I would contend that Ganondorf's OoT artwork should also be up as it (directly or indirectly) influenced his Melee art.  The practice of purging information should not be taken so far that basic information about characters, including the art history of them (so people can see the development of the character), is relegated to other wikis.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)