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Do you have any experience in merging. It would be great to merge with the Brawl mini wiki before it's release date but I don't have any idea how. I have also left ShadowUltra, who seems to be the most active contributor there, a message about merging, but no response. [[User:Bonko24|Bonko24]] 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | Do you have any experience in merging. It would be great to merge with the Brawl mini wiki before it's release date but I don't have any idea how. I have also left ShadowUltra, who seems to be the most active contributor there, a message about merging, but no response. [[User:Bonko24|Bonko24]] 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Merging would have to be done by one of the | :Merging would have to be done by one of the w:Community Team|Community Team, preferably [[User talk:Angela|Angela]] or [[User talk:CatherineMunro|Catherine]], since they are the ones who handle wiki requests. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 19:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Possible SmashWiki merge == | == Possible SmashWiki merge == | ||
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== Launch Guide == | == Launch Guide == | ||
The launch guide is is pretty much done so I'd like to display it some how on the main page or as a banner along the top of the page. I don't know which would be best or how to do it. Would you know how to do this? The page is | The launch guide is is pretty much done so I'd like to display it some how on the main page or as a banner along the top of the page. I don't know which would be best or how to do it. Would you know how to do this? The page is SmashWiki:Super Smash Bros. Brawl Launch Center. [[User:Bonko24|Bonko24]] 23:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Merging == | == Merging == | ||
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== Gonko == | == Gonko == | ||
Or something to that effect's name: On SmashWiki, having articles on smashers in the main space was not incorrect (see [[SmashWiki:Pool Room#Extension requests]]), so long as they were written in the third person and with decent facts and such. Don't be mean to him. :( --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [ | Or something to that effect's name: On SmashWiki, having articles on smashers in the main space was not incorrect (see [[SmashWiki:Pool Room#Extension requests]]), so long as they were written in the third person and with decent facts and such. Don't be mean to him. :( --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Sky2042 w]) 06:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:That's going to change soon after finishing with page merges. All these mainspace "profiles" will be moved to the userspace where they belong. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 06:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | :That's going to change soon after finishing with page merges. All these mainspace "profiles" will be moved to the userspace where they belong. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 06:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Did you even read the discussion? There's going to be resistance to that. :/ While I agree with you that they shouldn't be in the main space (some of them should, as some of them are well known), you're going to have to go through the same thing I did. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [ | ::Did you even read the discussion? There's going to be resistance to that. :/ While I agree with you that they shouldn't be in the main space (some of them should, as some of them are well known), you're going to have to go through the same thing I did. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Sky2042 w]) 06:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Regardless of the discussion, the mainspace is called article space for a reason. It's for content, not profiles/groups/clans/etc. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 06:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | :::Regardless of the discussion, the mainspace is called article space for a reason. It's for content, not profiles/groups/clans/etc. --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 06:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::It ''is'' content/article space for SmashWiki'rs, though. Again, I stress that I agree with you that the majority of them shouldn't reside in the main space, or at least they should have an overhaul, but this isn't something you're going to get away with cleanly. >_<. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [ | ::::It ''is'' content/article space for SmashWiki'rs, though. Again, I stress that I agree with you that the majority of them shouldn't reside in the main space, or at least they should have an overhaul, but this isn't something you're going to get away with cleanly. >_<. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Sky2042 w]) 06:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:: I agree with Sky here, if you want to start moving a large % of smashwiki's content to a new namespace, you should really start a discussion thread about this on a talk page and let other people share their opinions. There is no ONE right way to organize a wiki's content and no ONE person should set a policy that affects this much content. With two communities merging there are bound to be different ways to do things.. neither is right or wrong and the communities should discuss with an OPEN mind until they reach a decision Together | :: I agree with Sky here, if you want to start moving a large % of smashwiki's content to a new namespace, you should really start a discussion thread about this on a talk page and let other people share their opinions. There is no ONE right way to organize a wiki's content and no ONE person should set a policy that affects this much content. With two communities merging there are bound to be different ways to do things.. neither is right or wrong and the communities should discuss with an OPEN mind until they reach a decision Together [w:User:Angies|angies]<staff /> ([w:User talk:Angies|talk]) 17:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
==RE: SmashWiki:Merge/ Articles== | ==RE: SmashWiki:Merge/ Articles== | ||
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== [[Bowser]] == | == [[Bowser]] == | ||
Forgot to undelete it. Could you do that and save to newest version of that version for me? Erik posted a hard copy of it that he had on hand, but I'd rather have the version which was deleted. Thanks! --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [ | Forgot to undelete it. Could you do that and save to newest version of that version for me? Erik posted a hard copy of it that he had on hand, but I'd rather have the version which was deleted. Thanks! --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Sky2042 w]) 08:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Well, it looks like it doesn't exist in the Merge list, so it seemed like unlike all the other pages, the SmashWiki Bowser article was actually deleted off the Internet during the merger process. If it's possible that and other "now-nonexistent articles" can be "un-deleted", though, that would be great. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik Jensen]] <b><sup>([[User talk:Erik the Appreciator|Appreciate me here!]])</sup></b> 08:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | :Well, it looks like it doesn't exist in the Merge list, so it seemed like unlike all the other pages, the SmashWiki Bowser article was actually deleted off the Internet during the merger process. If it's possible that and other "now-nonexistent articles" can be "un-deleted", though, that would be great. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik Jensen]] <b><sup>([[User talk:Erik the Appreciator|Appreciate me here!]])</sup></b> 08:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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What did that person do to have worst vandal ever? [[User:Zmario|Zmario]] 23:04, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | What did that person do to have worst vandal ever? [[User:Zmario|Zmario]] 23:04, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
: Oh he replaced page with worst character ever. | : Oh he replaced page with worst character ever. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zmario|Zmario]] ([[User talk:Zmario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zmario|contribs]]) </small> | ||
:: <nowiki>:</nowiki>) --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 23:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | :: <nowiki>:</nowiki>) --[[User:Charitwo|Charitwo]] 23:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::um.....what lol! [[User:Zmario|Zmario]] 23:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | :::um.....what lol! [[User:Zmario|Zmario]] 23:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:But perhaps this is a discussion that should take place somewhere else. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 16:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC) | :But perhaps this is a discussion that should take place somewhere else. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 16:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Furthermore, I encourage you to read up on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:REDIRECT#Reasons for not deleting|reasons for not deleting]] a redirect. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [ | ::Furthermore, I encourage you to read up on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:REDIRECT#Reasons for not deleting|reasons for not deleting]] a redirect. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Sky2042 w]) 03:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Pokémon == | == Pokémon == | ||
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== Custom/personal Templates == | == Custom/personal Templates == | ||
Hey I'm a bit confused about the personal/custom template rule. You see, there are these things called | Hey I'm a bit confused about the personal/custom template rule. You see, there are these things called Word Bubbles. They are made to be used by people. They have a hard to remember code, so people make their own templates so all they have to type it <nowiki>{{name|text}}</nowiki>. Could this possibly be a loophole in the rule? Thanks for your time (Please reply on my talkpage), [[User:UberPhoeb|<font color="darkblue">'''Uber'''</font>]][[User talk:UberPhoeb|<font color="blue">''Phoeb''</font>]]<sup>[[user:UberPhoeb/Fanfic|a]] [[User:uberPhoeb/Walkthroughs|b]] [[user:UberPhoeb/Project FMApedia|c]]</sup> 00:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Hi. == | == Hi. == | ||
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::::There is one. I'm not on there much, so I don't know if they have the pages already, but the wiki does exist. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ::::There is one. I'm not on there much, so I don't know if they have the pages already, but the wiki does exist. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::I'm pretty sure I left a link for it on the Main Page's talk page, although it's probably in the last archive right now. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 22:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | :::::I'm pretty sure I left a link for it on the Main Page's talk page, although it's probably in the last archive right now. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 22:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::I found it. [ | ::::::I found it. [http://supersmashbrosfanon.wikia.com/wiki/ supersmashbrosfanon] --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::Yeah, that's it, but it still won't help. While Flash games aren't part of the actual series, they still exist. That Wiki talks about games, characters, etc. that don't even exist in the real games ''or'' flash games. But hey, it's your call. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 22:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | :::::::Yeah, that's it, but it still won't help. While Flash games aren't part of the actual series, they still exist. That Wiki talks about games, characters, etc. that don't even exist in the real games ''or'' flash games. But hey, it's your call. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 22:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::::I'll have to look around, but one thing is for certain, this wiki is only meant for the Nintendo Games. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ::::::::I'll have to look around, but one thing is for certain, this wiki is only meant for the Nintendo Games. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::What about the Sonic and MGS games? '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | :::::::::What about the Sonic and MGS games? '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::Now that I think about it, they should probably migrate to [ | ::::::::::Now that I think about it, they should probably migrate to [http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/ Gaming]. Just because characters from other games are present in Smash Bros, doesn't mean we have to have articles about the actual game here with infoboxes and all the fancy stuff. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::::If it's relevant to Smash Bros., it should be here. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | :::::::::::If it's relevant to Smash Bros., it should be here. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::Not an article about a game, no, it does not. Articles about the actual games these characters are from belong elsewhere. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ::::::::::::Not an article about a game, no, it does not. Articles about the actual games these characters are from belong elsewhere. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Talk about pathetic. And I thought Cafinator said random things (I mean really, ''Fisher Price''? Does this guy know how pathetic he sounds?). Anyway, KP will probably kill him (in Brawl) if he really is Sliq. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 19:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC) | Talk about pathetic. And I thought Cafinator said random things (I mean really, ''Fisher Price''? Does this guy know how pathetic he sounds?). Anyway, KP will probably kill him (in Brawl) if he really is Sliq. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">Mario</span><span style="color:Silver">Galaxy</span>]]''' {[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:Gray">talk</span>]]} 19:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Old stuff of merit == | |||
I found SmashWiki:Super Smash Bros. Brawl Launch Center and wasn't sure what to think. Some of the photoshopping is pretty good, so I wouldn't get rid of the photos. Nevertheless, much of the info is out of date and I think the whole thing needs a new name now that Brawl's been out a while. I think it's worth keeping, but probably needs a HUGE overhaul. What are your thoughts? {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 14:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
== DBR == | |||
I don't understand why you deleted those pages. Yes, their name is offensive, but it's been censored in the articles. They're one of the best-ranked crews in NorCal with some of the most well-known combo videos. Deleting their stuff is like deleting Ken Hoang's page because it mentioned his Peach theory (which it incidentally no longer does). '''[[User:Silverdragon706|Silverdragon706/FyreNWater]]''' - <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|C]] )</small> 20:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
:It doesn't matter if their the best crew in the whole country, they should have a better and less offensive name. Regardless or not of whether it's censored. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::That's why they're DBR. I don't even think they use their unacronymed name anymore. '''[[User:Silverdragon706|Silverdragon706/FyreNWater]]''' - <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|C]] )</small> 04:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Deleting Talk Page Redirects== | |||
This seems like a bit of a make-work project and doesn't serve much purpose. Talk page redirects are created automatically by the MediaWiki engine after a page move in order to account for all avenues of access to be opened for users who may have edited it before the move. For instance, I frequently type [[Talk:RJM]] into the search box to access my own talk page, even though it redirects to [[Smasher talk:RJM]]. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Talk page redirects are not useful 90% of the time. Redirects themselves that are not talk pages are useful because they both 1) function for search purposes (like for example if an article's title was expanded '''[[Wii]]''' > '''[[Nintendo Wii]]'''. But '''Talk:Wii''' would not be useful because it's not practical to keep it because people do not search talk pages, your smasher talk one is a conveinence for you, but might not be for the rest of the community. It doesn't matter if it appears to be a "make-work" project to you, if I want to find things to do around here to make things more clean and organized, then so be it. You might not think anything of sorting through stuff like this (maybe you're more of a content individual than a maintenance individual), but Wiki-gnoming tasks and projects both keep one busy and the wiki looking tidy. Stop interfering with my little projects and sweating the small stuff, it makes you look like a jerk. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Furthermore, you're a horrible sysop anyway. I can honestly say I prefer the company of just about every sysop that came with the merge ''except'' you. If you don't like the way a wiki works, nobody is forcing you to stay. Go play and stop stressing yourself out. You're going to be one of those people that has a heart attack before they're forty. --{{User:Charitwo/Sig}} 22:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Hey, fuck you. I come to your talk page to explain why several of your previous deletes have been reversed and you respond to justify why you'd waste your time in such a way, which is fine, but then you're gonna take the time to come back just to add a little personal dig about me being a horrible sysop and looking like a jerk for "interfering with your little projects". No, fuck you, I don't appreciate that--I'm a damn good sysop and this merge ruined everything that was planned by the SmashWiki community beforehand. I made every effort I possibly could to diplomatically deal with a decision that was autocratically enforced. And you know, it really sucks that we've had to meet on such fouled ground, Charitwo, because before the merge happened, everyone on SmashWiki believed me to be a peaceable individual and a valuable and overqualified sysop. Even though most people realize that it's a flawed way of thinking, first impressions still count for a lot and the first impression that all of you Wikia staff members and community members have of me is a loud and angry protest about the merge which was directed specifically at [[Gideon]], who seems to be the one who made the decision. And unfortunately, painting that kind of picture leaves a reputation with first-time viewers that my substantial contributions of the past can't seem to quell. Ever since, it's been a fight just to clean up this disaster and when I ended up banning a bunch of users that to this day contribute more garbage to the wiki than a bunch of talk page redirects ever could, my persona as a hard-nosed power-abusing dictator seemed to come to full fruition despite a stunning lack of evidence. It's like this entire project that I had been heavily involved in and cared vehemently for suddenly blew up in my face and now the entire community has this backlash against both me ''and'' the ideas that used to steer the course of SmashWiki's future. In any case, don't talk down to me about being a horrible sysop and more importantly, don't berate me with comments like "go play" and "if you don't like it, leave" because the former implies that you're treating this argument as though you've already won it and the latter is totally self-involved without any consideration for the thousands of hours I've put in to making this the best resource of smash information available. Remarkably, the Super Smash Bros. Wikia administration seems to have lost sight of that goal well before we showed up (and who could blame them in light of all the inevitable spam). Anyway, sorry for explaining myself; the next time I interfere with your little projects, I'll do so in silence. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 05:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Both of you need to cool down. I understand that we all have our differences in what we consider the appropriate way to run this wiki, but when these become attacks between two sysops, it needs to be taken elsewhere. Your comments here have not gone unnoticed by other members of the wiki who have expressed concern to me about the behaviour of two sysops. I have to agree the above behaviour is quite unbecoming of administrators on this wiki. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 04:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC) | |||