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::::::::::::''"Just say "Diddy is good"? That's not representative of the overall relative strengths of the roster. How many characters do we say are top tier, and how many do we leave out? And on whose authority if not the SBR?"'' | ::::::::::::''"Just say "Diddy is good"? That's not representative of the overall relative strengths of the roster. How many characters do we say are top tier, and how many do we leave out? And on whose authority if not the SBR?"'' | ||
::::::::::::This is not some random "somebody" who thinks that Diddy Kong is the best character in the game; there is a '''''widespread consensus''''' in the Smash community that Diddy Kong is one of the best characters in Smash 4. If you bothered to look in the competitive community every once in a while, you would see all the posts about people complaining about how OP Diddy Kong is, and people making their own tier lists with Diddy Kong at the top. Mew2King even posted addressing the people complaining that Diddy Kong should be banned from tournaments. You'd also learn that there are a bunch of other characters people think to be top tier just under Diddy Kong: Sheik, Yoshi, Zero Suit Samus, and Mii Brawler. Most of the other characters are considered to be not top tier and on a significantly lower level than the others. The community basically decided the top tier characters, not myself or SmashWiki. SmashWiki does not determine what the best characters in the game are; we '''report''' on what the community thinks. An encyclopedia sentence would be "Diddy Kong is the best character in the game," it would be "A large amount of Smash 4 community members believe that Diddy Kong is the best character in Smash 4." Not everything needs a tier list to be factually accurate. You can judge this based on the huge community response. Do you see any other characters frequently being called out as the best character in the game other than Diddy Kong? | ::::::::::::This is not some random "somebody" who thinks that Diddy Kong is the best character in the game; there is a '''''widespread consensus''''' in the Smash community that Diddy Kong is one of the best characters in Smash 4. If you bothered to look in the competitive community every once in a while, you would see all the posts about people complaining about how OP Diddy Kong is, and people making their own tier lists with Diddy Kong at the top. Mew2King even posted addressing the people complaining that Diddy Kong should be banned from tournaments. You'd also learn that there are a bunch of other characters people think to be top tier just under Diddy Kong: Sheik, Yoshi, Zero Suit Samus, and Mii Brawler. Most of the other characters are considered to be not top tier and on a significantly lower level than the others. The community basically decided the top tier characters, not myself or SmashWiki. SmashWiki does not determine what the best characters in the game are; we '''report''' on what the community thinks. An encyclopedia sentence would be "Diddy Kong is the best character in the game," it would be "A large amount of Smash 4 community members believe that Diddy Kong is the best character in Smash 4." Not everything needs a tier list to be factually accurate. You can judge this based on the huge community response. Do you see any other characters frequently being called out as the best character in the game other than Diddy Kong? | ||
:::::::::::::I'm not particularly interested in joining this debate, but Mew2King, ZeRo, Anti, ESAM, and quite a few other top players believe that Sheik is actually the best character, so citing M2K's side of the debate might not be the best approach here. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:14, 23 January 2015 (EST) | :::::::::::::I'm not particularly interested in joining this debate, but Mew2King, ZeRo, Anti, ESAM, Jtails, and quite a few other top players believe that Sheik is actually the best character, so citing M2K's side of the debate might not be the best approach here. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:14, 23 January 2015 (EST) | ||
::::::::::::''"And I feel I have to re-iterate: this page is about '''''tier lists'''''. You seem to be assuming it has a much broader scope than it does."'' | ::::::::::::''"And I feel I have to re-iterate: this page is about '''''tier lists'''''. You seem to be assuming it has a much broader scope than it does."'' | ||