Cleanup
With this clean start, I'd like to bump the cleanup project that got unanimous approval but no real progress. To recap: Rumors should only be listed once they are disproven, rumors should be written about from an objective, neutral standpoint with emphasis on citations, only the most notable rumors should be added. None of the Bigby Wolf or "Does not perform well in Autumn" nonsense. I'd like to get a discussion rolling on which entries are fit to take out, but I think it's a good time to move ahead with this. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 20:37, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
This rumor inverse said about an anonymous 4chan user...
...claims that Spring Man is the ARMS character. His reveal trailer seems to take place after Incineroar’s. Is this worthy of being on the list? SonDaniel
(talk page) 22:35, May 23, 2020 (EDT)
Cleanup vol.1: Ultimate
Taking note of Serena Strawberry's cleanup project for this page, some editors including Serena and myself have taken note of which rumours in the Ultimate section are fit for removal. After discussing what contributes to making these rumors fit for removal while considering the principles proposed above by Serena, these are the rumours we have decided should probably be removed:
- The Loz18 rumour
- The NeoGAF rumour
- The amiibo unlock rumour
- The 4chan render rumour
- The Japanese Fighter Playlist rumour
- The Adeleine rumour
- The 5channel rumour
- The IAmShifty and PapaGenos rumours
- The Sakurai Fighter 5 rumours
- All three rumours in the Fighters Pass 2 section (MandyCan, LoL, Ubisoft Club)
While I am recording this here more so for documentation purposes, and we are pretty certain these articles are fine for removal, whether they should be kept or not is a matter of open discussion. Acgamer28
00:14, June 24, 2020 (EDT)
- Partial Support For Adeleine, is guessing Hero and his alts and Banjo right big enough? I remember Dante being a popular rumor with Fighter 5, the one about Crash can be removed though. --Meester Tweester (talk) 01:27, June 24, 2020 (EDT)
- I was initially thinking the same thing for Dante and the Fighter 5 rumours, but Aidanzapunk helped bring us to the consensus that the rumour was nothing more than out-of-control speculation, so despite its popularity we might be ok to not cover it here. Aidan also made note of the fact that the Adeleine rumours were confirmed by the poster to be guesses. Incredibly lucky guesses, but nothing more than that. These two rumours are cool and all, but these are the reasons why they're still on the chopping block. Acgamer28
02:07, June 24, 2020 (EDT)
- Yeah, that makes sense. The Dante rumors were large but I agree they were out-of-control speculation. --Meester Tweester (talk) 17:03, June 24, 2020 (EDT)
- Loz18 had a reported correct leak that's on the leaks page so IDK how I feel about removing. Though, if there's a specific reason, I'm willing to hear it out.
- The sections on the NeoGAF rumor, the render rumor, the Iamshiftry rumor, the MandyCan rumor, and the LoL rumor have no explanation for their stay outside of "it got a few things correct", so those should go. The Crash one is probably in the same boat, but it at least has the leverage of the Mii outfits so IDK.
- amiibo unlock and playlist are iffy but I don't feel strongly one way or the other. They came from mostly official sources and just attracted mere speculation, though I kinda feel that's the whole point.
- Adeleine shouldn't even be on here if they admitted they were guesses, and it's not like the other rumors that we cover despite being admitted to guesses and hoaxes (the Palutena leak was considered leverage for the Gematsu leaks, the Lucina leak was notable for using mods, the Chunky Kong hoax started an infamous comparison to Bigfoot).
- The 5channel post section is just a mess ("not confirmed at the moment"? seriously?). If it's kept, it needs a pretty good rewrite, although any existing references to it (like on Vergeben's page) seem like they could easily be revised whereever needed.
- The Fighter 5 and Rayman rumors were just baseless speculation that didn't even garner much attention. Cut.
- I was initially thinking the same thing for Dante and the Fighter 5 rumours, but Aidanzapunk helped bring us to the consensus that the rumour was nothing more than out-of-control speculation, so despite its popularity we might be ok to not cover it here. Aidan also made note of the fact that the Adeleine rumours were confirmed by the poster to be guesses. Incredibly lucky guesses, but nothing more than that. These two rumours are cool and all, but these are the reasons why they're still on the chopping block. Acgamer28
- And that's my gut judgement, folks. - EndGenuity (talk) 18:48, June 24, 2020 (EDT)