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:Considering the cameo is questionable and just a cameo, I think it's best to have his actual debut mentioned with a nod to Arcana in the trivia section at most. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 21:44, April 12, 2022 (EDT) | :Considering the cameo is questionable and just a cameo, I think it's best to have his actual debut mentioned with a nod to Arcana in the trivia section at most. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 21:44, April 12, 2022 (EDT) | ||
::I think there's a good chance it is Kirby. The reference image has a lot of detailed spritework save for "Kirby"—if it was a normal enemy like a slime I'd imagine they'd at least put some shine on it, instead it is very simplistic like Kirby appears in Kirby's Dream Land. While Sakurai had no involvement on Arcana, he is listed as a "special thanks". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:15, April 12, 2022 (EDT) | ::I think there's a good chance it is Kirby. The reference image has a lot of detailed spritework save for "Kirby"—if it was a normal enemy like a slime I'd imagine they'd at least put some shine on it, instead it is very simplistic like Kirby appears in Kirby's Dream Land. While Sakurai had no involvement on Arcana, he is listed as a "special thanks". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:15, April 12, 2022 (EDT) | ||
:::I've touched on this [[Special:Diff/1624292|on the ''Kingdom Hearts'' spirits page]], but it is my belief that character debuts should be based on more than a cameo/teased appearance. It's nice to see stuff get teased beforehand, but there is a difference between Banjo debuting in Diddy Kong Racing or Roy debuting in Melee, and Kirby appearing in Arcana or Sonic appearing in Rad Mobile. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:16, April 12, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::::If that's the case, then I feel as though the mention of Sonic's debut in Rad Mobile [[Sonic the Hedgehog|should be removed from his article]]. Either both Arcana and Rad Mobile should be mentioned, or neither of them should be mentioned.[[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 11:09, April 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::::I agree with that. Simple cameos shouldn't count as actual debuts. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 13:15, April 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
<small>(Reset indent)</small>If we're not counting the ''Final Mix'' secret endings as debuts, then I'd also add Dark Samus's debut to the list, since her appearance in the first ''Prime'' game's secret ending basically counts as a debut as much as the ''Birth by Sleep'' trio's appearance in ''Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix''{{'}}s secret ending. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 13:44, April 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Dark Samus is another issue, though. Canonically, she's Metroid Prime, which appeared in the game of the same name. While her Dark Samus appearance debuted in Metroid Prime 2 Echoes, She actually debuted in the first game as THE Metroid Prime. This is way more than a cameo. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 17:04, April 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||