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== "Lost" veterans ==
== "Lost" veterans ==
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== Downloadable characters? ==
== Downloadable characters? ==


I think we should have some sort of way of differentiating downloadable characters besides just the note at the bottom, maybe coloring the slot yellow to match the eShop's theme. Any thoughts? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zm123bro|Zm123bro]] ([[User talk:Zm123bro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zm123bro|contribs]]) 13:21, 24 October 2014‎ (EDT)</small>
I think we should have some sort of way of differentiating downloadable characters besides just the note at the bottom, maybe coloring the slot yellow to match the eShop's theme. Any thoughts? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zm123bro|Zm123bro]] ([[User talk:Zm123bro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zm123bro|contribs]]) 13:21, 24 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:I changed the background color of 3DS/Wii U Mewtwo gold. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 12:26, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I changed the background color of 3DS/Wii U Mewtwo gold. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 12:26, 24 October 2014 (EDT)


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Should we have a navigation system for the characters in order of how they appear on the selection screen, a la bulbapedia pokédex? '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 11:20, 4 February 2015 (EST)
Should we have a navigation system for the characters in order of how they appear on the selection screen, a la bulbapedia pokédex? '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 11:20, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:I do '''support''' the idea, but I would like an explanation on how it would work, specifically. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:23, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:I do '''support''' the idea, but I would like an explanation on how it would work, specifically. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:23, 4 February 2015 (EST)
::on the top, there's a bar that has the page behind and before, an icon of the character, and a link to the pages of each character. That's not very well put, so you might want to look at one of the pages for a pokemon on bulbapedia, then look at the top.{{unsigned|Littlesquirtle|11:31, February 4, 2015}}
::on the top, there's a bar that has the page behind and before, an icon of the character, and a link to the pages of each character. That's not very well put, so you might want to look at one of the pages for a pokemon on bulbapedia, then look at the top.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Littlesquirtle|Littlesquirtle]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Littlesquirtle|contribs]]) 11:31, February 4, 2015</small>
:::...I don't think that would be necessary, actually. I mean, I'm sure something similar to that could be applied, but we couldn't really organize a whole game's roster like that. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:40, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::...I don't think that would be necessary, actually. I mean, I'm sure something similar to that could be applied, but we couldn't really organize a whole game's roster like that. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:40, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::The thing to keep in mind is that each Pokémon has a set number in the Pokédex. That being said, there isn't really anything like that in the Smash games. We could change it up and get it to be sorted by universe and have a different one for each game's page (i.e., there would be a different one [[Mario (SSBM)|here]] than over [[Mario (SSB4)|here]]). But I think that would be basically all we could do. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:43, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::The thing to keep in mind is that each Pokémon has a set number in the Pokédex. That being said, there isn't really anything like that in the Smash games. We could change it up and get it to be sorted by universe and have a different one for each game's page (i.e., there would be a different one [[Mario (SSBM)|here]] than over [[Mario (SSB4)|here]]). But I think that would be basically all we could do. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:43, 4 February 2015 (EST)
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I think it would be better to just introduce a legend for the colours, instead of typing it out, but I don't know how. Could someone do it? &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] 03:02, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
I think it would be better to just introduce a legend for the colours, instead of typing it out, but I don't know how. Could someone do it? &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] 03:02, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
:I made this in ten minutes:
:{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Key
|Starter
|style="background-color:#dfdfdf;"|{{GameIcon|SSB|16px}}/{{GameIcon|SSBM|16px}}/{{GameIcon|SSBB|16px}} Unlockable
|style="background-color:#ffcfcf;"|{{GameIcon|SSB4-3|16px}} Unlockable
|style="background-color:#cfcfff;"|{{GameIcon|SSB4|16px}} Unlockable
|style="background-color:#ffffaf;"|Downloadable
|}
:Will that work? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 21:01, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
::I think that works fine. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 06:50, 18 July 2015 (EDT)
::I like it. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 07:53, 18 July 2015 (EDT)
== Separating Mii Fighters ==
The three Mii Fighters are separate characters. For example, Sakurai said in the latest direct, in reference to the non-DLC characters, there were 51 characters. And, each of the Mii Fighters have their own amiibo. I tried putting them in their own rows, but I was  told to come here. [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 14:20, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
:The Mii Fighters are one slot on the CSS. Case closed. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 14:21, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
::So were Zelda/Sheik, Samus/Zero Suit Samus, and the Pokemon Trainer. [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 14:29, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
:I always considered them one. For the time being, I gotta vote for keeping em' the same. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 14:36, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
::One slot, and I gotta say. I am kinda hating the Mii Fighters for making ''everything'' so confusing here -_- [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 21:06, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Why does having only one slot dictate who is a separate character? Before SSB4, Sheik and Zelda shared a slot, and Zero Suit Samus didn't even have one. Neither did Squirtle and Ivysaur, and unlike Charizard, they still haven't gotten their own. It's honestly not hard: The Mii Fighters all have their own custom moves, and in their original trailer, Sakurai said, very clearly, each one is their own separate fighter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1K-WqQYw7w skip to around 4:16). [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 11:48, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
I vote separate. It doesn't matter that they have the same slot on the CSS, they're still separate characters [[User:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#857363">73MPL4R</span>''']][[User talk:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#505050"> Only the dead have seen the end of war</span>''']] 11:57, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
I hope this discussion doesn't end without a formal consensus. [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 13:55, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:'''Separate''' <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  13:57, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:'''Leave as is.''' The Miis' different classes are already linked from that cell of the table, and it doesn't cause undue stretching or anything. Furthermore, the CSS and official site treat them as one "character" with three sub-characters, so to speak (and unlike Pokemon Trainer, none of them went on to be playable without that grouping). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:04, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:::Shouldn't Sakurai's word take precedence over that though? [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 14:15, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
::::After reading all this, I'll change my vote. Sakurai ''did'' say that they are three chracters. '''Seperate'''. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Little Mac|World Circuit]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 14:37, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:::::They are separate characters in some contexts (i.e. they have separate movesets, trophies, etc.) but they are grouped together 100% of the time and also share their CSS slot and official site page/artwork. I remain opposed. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:17, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
::::::I remain opposed as well. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 00:49, 5 July 2015 (EDT)
(reset indent) '''Support'''. As far as I know, they're only regarded as one character on the website (which is essentially marketing), their slot (which we've concluded is irrelevant), and their congratulations screens (extremely minor). [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 09:30, 5 July 2015 (EDT)
:So, by my count, it's 4-3 in favor of separating. Is there anyone else that needs to vote? [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 15:55, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
::Just in case you didn't count my vote, I'm in favor of '''leaving it as it is'''. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 16:00, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
:::I did. It's still three for '''Leave as is''' (Aidan, Serpent King, and Miles) and four for '''Separate''' (73MPL4R, Nutta, Nyargleblargle, and LittleMacmain97 after he changed his vote). [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 19:51, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
::::3-4 is hardly a consensus. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 21:13, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
:::::Then how can we reach a consensus? [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 11:57, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
(reset indent) Please don't let this end without a final answer. [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 13:19, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
:: I really don't know how we could reach a consesus. It's in favor of seperating now. If anyone else needs to vote, now would be the time. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Little Mac|World Circuit]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 14:28, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
:::I '''support''' separating them. They are different characters in almost every possible way. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  15:43, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
::I still oppose, per Miles. They are together on the CSS. They are counted singular even on the reveal site, where as Sheik and ZSS are not. (this applied to Brawl and the DOJO too...) [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 16:13, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
:::To be fair, the Smash 4 website was far less in-depth than the DOJO!!!, and as I said earlier, it seems to be mostly marketing. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 17:18, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
Well, know the vote is 5-3. Is that enough? [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 22:50, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
:6-3 including you, so go ahead. We've been discussing for three weeks and I'd say two-thirds is enough to count as a consensus.[[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 10:07, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
== Dedede in Melee ==
I don't remember where I read/heard this from, but I remember something saying that King Dedede was to be included in Melee if Sakurai couldn't get the rights to use the Fire Emblem characters in the game. After the interview, he jokingly states that he probably could've added him in anyway. He also stated that he would've added Leif instead of Roy, but IS showed them a prototype of Binding Blade and he was interested. Would this be worth putting somewhere? And if someone could actually find the interview, that'd be even better! ([[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 20:20, 16 July 2015 (EDT))
EDIT: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37915502&postcount=7506 <I think I found it...
:This neogaf post and its claims have been removed for lack of a reliable source. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:30, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
:Also worth note that the user was banned. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 20:31, 16 July 2015 (EDT)
::Haha, okay. Didn't see that... It does seem to have come from an old Famitsu catalog, though. Would that be worth looking into? ([[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 13:55, 17 July 2015 (EDT))
:::Probably not. We do know that Sakurai did not want to over represent the Kirby universe in Melee as Kirby is his creation, so I find it very unlikely that Dedede was ever considered. Besides, Meta Knight would have been considered first. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 14:22, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
==Other considered characters==
I think characters like Dixie Kong, and other characters planned but never made it in, should get a mention on this page, either a section under the main list, or a list in the note section. A list if all of them, including one's like Chrom, who were only planned, is here: http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/04/13/the-definitive-unused-fighters-list-in-smash/.
:This is just for characters that have already been in Smash and where they were planned. I think what you're looking for are the Beta elements pages. Also, sign your comments with four tildes like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:09, 22 December 2015 (EST)
== What's wrong with a Flying Mii costume, you ask? ==
It's irrelevant; all the costume does is give the Mii a different hat. They're 2 completely different things. And just because someone wears a Pikachu costume doesn't make them Pikachu. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:38, 25 February 2016 (EST)
:Define irrevelant. What's wrong with giving a side note? Of course they're two different things. And duh. What's the problem? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 01:40, 25 February 2016 (EST)
The problem is that it just doesn't fit here, it's a pointless statement to bring up, IMO. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:42, 25 February 2016 (EST)
:Why doesn't it fit? Why is it pointless? I think it's useful and cool to point out for those looking that it's not just an enemy on a stage, but also has a costume based off of it. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 01:45, 25 February 2016 (EST)
Because they're 2 completely different characters, and I just don't find it interesting. I just don't know how to explain it better. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:48, 25 February 2016 (EST)
Characters that are NPC (assists, Pokémon, entities) but have costumes for the Miis that are mostly based on them is relevant. Laborious to track down, but relevant. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 01:58, 25 February 2016 (EST)
Go Beep yourself. (lol just kidding; I'm not mad at all) Well, I still disagree, but it looks like I'm outnumbered, so I'm done here. Thanks for your opinion BeepYou. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:40, 25 February 2016 (EST)
:Wot :v --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 02:46, 25 February 2016 (EST)
== Corrin is a non-native character ==
Under trivia the first item is that Roy is the only "non-native" character appearing in smash bros before a game from their respective series. With the inclusion of Corrin, I think (s)he should be added to that trivia. [[Special:Contributions/69.130.243.119|69.130.243.119]] 19:06, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:''Fates'' released in Japan before he was even announced for ''Smash''. Roy, on the other hand, didn't get his game for a little while longer. [[User:BaconMaster331|<span style="color: Crimson;">'''Bacon'''</span>]][[User talk:BaconMaster331|<span style="color: Maroon;">'''Master'''</span>]][[File:BaconMasterSig.png|16px|link=]] 19:10, 28 February 2016 (EST)
I do believe that this can be made as a point. While it's true that Fates was out in Japan well before the DLC was, I still firmly believe that the addition of Corrin in Smash was a means of cross-promotion for Fates, at least for Western audiences - the basis of this being that every release outside of Japan was after the DLC's release. While nothing is proven, the evidence strongly suggests that Corrin was being used to bring Fire Emblem back to popularity in the West. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the Internets go! :3''']]</span> 09:09, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
:This may well be the case, but the way you edited the trivia point, it asserted that Corrin "debuted" in Smash, which isn't a true statement - not unless you also want to throw Marth and Lucas into that boat. And I don't think the promotion aspect alone is much of a basis for a trivia point on this page. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 09:20, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
== Corrin fact error ==
According to this fact:
* Similarly, [[Corrin]] is the only character who has made an international debut in a ''Super Smash Bros.'' game, but had previously made a debut in their origin game in Japan.
However, with its current wording, the same is true of Marth. --[[Special:Contributions/73.109.10.209|73.109.10.209]] 04:17, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
== Deletion ==
Basically what I said in the template. Every bit of information on this page is or could be covered somewhere else except the definition of newcomer and veteran, which could easily be given its own (admittedly stubby, but is a stubby article really worse than a redundant article?) article. This could easily just redirect to the characters section on SSB (series), which could have its own link to the NPC page. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:33, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Hard oppose'''; this is in analogue to [[Stage]], [[Item]], etc. as our "character" landing page. Absolutely should not be deleted. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:00, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' per Miles. Also I use this page from time to time. [[User:Alex Parpotta|Alex Parpotta]] ([[User talk:Alex Parpotta|talk]]) 18:07, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' We need to expand upon general topic articles linked on the main page nav in my opinion, deleting them is the last thing I would want to see. [[User: RobSir_zx|<span style="color:orange">Rob</span>]][[User talk:RobSir_zx|<span style="color:blue">'''Sir '''</span>]][[File:RobSir-sig.jpg|16px]] [[Special:Contributions/RobSir zx|<span style="color:red">zx</span>]] 18:53, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' A page standard across nearly every wiki which covers a work with characters, we should not be an exception. [[User:Searingjet|Searingjet]] ([[User talk:Searingjet|talk]]) 19:28, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''You expect me to take this seriously?''' Worst suggestion I have ever seen, without a doubt. There is no reason that a page, especially one in our side bar, should ever be considered for deletion. It serves as a clean list which characters who are featured in each game and which ones aren't. I also highly disagree that the list on [[Super Smash Bros. (series)]] is easier to read than this, and further, that's not what the page is specifically for, as this one is. So no '''Strongest of opposes'''. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 19:50, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Oppose'''. The page could be repurposed a bit to discuss the concept itself more heavily, but deleting the page for a core element of the Smash series is a bad idea to me, plain and simple. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 20:17, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' per everyone else. <strike>And also bias reasons because this is one of my favorite pages.</strike> [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:20, 20 June 2017 (EDT)
== Consistency with SSB Switch ==
This page lists Bowser, DK, and Samus as confirmed for SSB Switch. [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|The game page]] doesn't - it mentions them as visible, but stops short of calling them confirmed. Which one is right? It doesn't seem sensible to have the two disagree like this. --[[User:Keiya|Keiya]] ([[User talk:Keiya|talk]]) 16:07, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
:For the record, if you posted this same thing [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|already once]], you don't have to do it twice. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:19, 9 April 2018 (EDT)