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:I honestly think Daisy's pinkish alt has nothing to do with Peach. Looking closely, the shade on Daisy's pink alt is a more reddish, more like salmon or light crimson, with dress accents that are clearly red. Peach's pink is a lot more bubblegum pink, with rose pink accents. I'd go as far to say that Daisy's "pink" alt would've been a ''red'' alt if it weren't for the other red one with black accents. [[User:Arend|Arend]] ([[User talk:Arend|talk]]) 15:25, 23 December 2018 (EST) | :I honestly think Daisy's pinkish alt has nothing to do with Peach. Looking closely, the shade on Daisy's pink alt is a more reddish, more like salmon or light crimson, with dress accents that are clearly red. Peach's pink is a lot more bubblegum pink, with rose pink accents. I'd go as far to say that Daisy's "pink" alt would've been a ''red'' alt if it weren't for the other red one with black accents. [[User:Arend|Arend]] ([[User talk:Arend|talk]]) 15:25, 23 December 2018 (EST) | ||
::I cannot locate the specific citation, but in a ''Famitsu'' column [[Sakurai]] went into how he oversees the implementation of characters in ''Smash'', and one of the important things he emphasized is that he does not want players to be confused with who they are playing on screen. He specifically talked about character silhouettes, with every character looking distinct, but I think this principle is reflected in the selection of colors as well. For playable characters that inherently look similar to one another, I think they avoid including alts that would make them look like one another. In ''Smash 64'' and ''Melee'', Mario and Luigi physically looked very similar and had comparable properties, and to impart as little confusion as possible, Mario lacks a Luigi-inspired* alt and Luigi lacks a Mario one. This type of implementation is reflected in every ''Smash Bros.'' game, including ''Ultimate''. For example, if they weren’t worried about imparting confusion, they likely would not have removed Peach's Daisy alt or Samus' Dark Samus alt. They likely would not have removed Marth's Roy alt or changed Fox’s Wolf alt.** The only exception I can think of is with Pit in ''Ultimate'', in which the black wings of his “fallen angel” costume were restored and make him look more similar to Dark Pit as a consequence. I don’t know why they did this – in ''Smash 4'' they gave Pit white wings for the alt to avoid confusion – but that is the only outlier I can think of among ~500 costumes. | |||
::For this particular case, I think people will ultimately go back-and-forth with what they consider is a “similar” shade of pink. Personally, I do not think the shade is very comparable to Peach and it is the most critical component for the two to have in common if the developers wanted to be invocative of her. If they wanted the alt to look like her, why would they have changed the shade at all? Why didn’t they give her the same gems? I think it’s because they specifically did not want the alt to look like Peach and I would not suggest that it is in the article. | |||
::Nearly all of Rosalina's alts resemble Peach's, and certainly intentional, as ''Smash 4'' was the first game where costumes were not restricted by team battles and they likely wanted to encourage situations where people on the same team chose the same color for certain battles. DK and Diddy have similar color schemes between them, for example. But even then, they avoided giving similar-looking characters alts that resembled one another. For the pink alt of Rosalina, I don't think confusing her for Peach is as big of a problem as it would be for Daisy because: A.) Rosalina is much bigger than Peach, whereas Daisy is almost the exact same size as her. B.) Rosalina is accompanied by Luma: an omnipresent, monotone, and vibrant blotch on the screen with nothing comparable in Peach’s design. C.) They do not any moves or animations in common. | |||
::(*)To be clear, I know Mario’s alt is attributed to Luigi’s appearance in the arcade Mario Bros., but that does not look like Luigi’s current default appearance in Smash Bros. | |||
::(**)Despite what the article currently implies, I would not say Fox’s eighth color “resembles Wolf” because – to me – it looks like the developers changes the alt specifically to look less like Wolf.[[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:27, 24 December 2018 (EST) | |||
==Dark Samus's Black costume== | ==Dark Samus's Black costume== | ||