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==Policy proposal== | |||
This is my attempt to bring in a policy that restricts userspace/forum editing during busy times while retaining the "loose" atmosphere we have. The gist is that when business is slow, we don't care that much if you play in your userspace - we'll still tell people to not do it and lock those who do it excessively, but in the end it doesn't hurt us. When there's a need to do work, though - a situation we all know will happen within the next year or so when SSB4 information starts to come out - then we get more strict on living in userspace and forums. Bulbapedia does similar to this - they're currently restricting userspace edits to one a day since B2/W2 came out (though their reason is more of server load). | This is my attempt to bring in a policy that restricts userspace/forum editing during busy times while retaining the "loose" atmosphere we have. The gist is that when business is slow, we don't care that much if you play in your userspace - we'll still tell people to not do it and lock those who do it excessively, but in the end it doesn't hurt us. When there's a need to do work, though - a situation we all know will happen within the next year or so when SSB4 information starts to come out - then we get more strict on living in userspace and forums. Bulbapedia does similar to this - they're currently restricting userspace edits to one a day since B2/W2 came out (though their reason is more of server load). | ||
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I am '''Supporting''' this proposal due to it being very lenient, being a proactive policy that'll help monitor the wiki (there are examples of this becoming and issue in other NIWA wikis), and because in the past there have been a multitude of userpage edits without the use of the preview button.--'''''[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<font color="red">S</font><font color="orange">h</font><font color="gold">w</font><font color="green">i</font><font color="blue">d</font><font color="purple">o</font>]]''''' '''^.^''' 20:46, 1 August 2012 (EDT) | I am '''Supporting''' this proposal due to it being very lenient, being a proactive policy that'll help monitor the wiki (there are examples of this becoming and issue in other NIWA wikis), and because in the past there have been a multitude of userpage edits without the use of the preview button.--'''''[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<font color="red">S</font><font color="orange">h</font><font color="gold">w</font><font color="green">i</font><font color="blue">d</font><font color="purple">o</font>]]''''' '''^.^''' 20:46, 1 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
I '''support''', too | I '''support''', too. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 21:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
'''Support''': This is an excellent idea for when traffic starts skyrocketing when more news of SSB4 is revealed. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:48, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | '''Support''': This is an excellent idea for when traffic starts skyrocketing when more news of SSB4 is revealed. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:48, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
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I think this is a great idea, I '''support''' this. A bunch. [[User:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''Cheese'''''</font>]] [[File:The Cheese.png|19px]] 20:03, 4 August 2012 (EDT) | I think this is a great idea, I '''support''' this. A bunch. [[User:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''Cheese'''''</font>]] [[File:The Cheese.png|19px]] 20:03, 4 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
I see lots of potential benefits and I don't see anything wrong with it. I guess I'll '''support.''' '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:skyblue">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:Turquoise">Conditioner</span>]]</span>''' [[File: | I see lots of potential benefits and I don't see anything wrong with it. I guess I'll '''support.''' '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:skyblue">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:Turquoise">Conditioner</span>]]</span>''' [[File:AC.png|19px]] 10:03, 5 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
No reason not to '''Support'''. <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 10:23, 5 August 2012 (EDT) | No reason not to '''Support'''. <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 10:23, 5 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
This proposal has my '''support'''. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 10:36, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | This proposal has my '''support'''. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 10:36, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
You know what, I'm gonna agree with this, so I '''support''' this. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 20:02, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
'''Support''' Could help. A lot. <span style="font-family:Andalus; font-size:12pt">[[User:Meta Ike|<font color="indigo">'''Meta''' </font>]] [[User talk:Meta Ike|<font color="purple"> '''Ike'''</font>]]</span> [[File:MetaIke.png|34px]] 19:57, 15 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
'''Support''' Sounds useful. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 20:05, 15 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
== One thing that could be considered... == | == One thing that could be considered... == | ||
Closer to the time, once more and more edits about SSB4 come around, [[ | Closer to the time, once more and more edits about SSB4 come around, [[mw:Extension:Patroller|Extension:Patroller]] could be installed. This adds the red exclamation marks next to unpatrolled edits in recent changes. Then admins, and possibly rollback (if you give them the patroller user right) could then check the edits and make sure they are not stupid. It wouldn't limit the amount of stupid edits but it would make it easier to identify the stupid edits. Also, an autopatrolled right could be given to trusted users. Just a suggestion anyway, one that Wikisimpsons uses anyway (and it works pretty well there). <span style="font-family:AR Darling">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">The</span> <span style="color:blue">Solar</span> <span style="color:red">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:bgreen">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span> 08:05, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
:I didn't realize we didn't already have this, I '''support''' installing it, and at the same time, I would like to become a patroller. On the wikis I am an administrator, I always check and then patrol new edits, and being autoconfirmed myself would be a relief for everyone else. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:04, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | :I didn't realize we didn't already have this, I '''support''' installing it, and at the same time, I would like to become a patroller. On the wikis I am an administrator, I always check and then patrol new edits, and being autoconfirmed myself would be a relief for everyone else. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:04, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
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To be honest, even if we choose Option 2, I'm expecting the system to turn into Option 1, I would predict only staff would want to change it. And because of this, I see little point in trying to teach non-staff members how to do it, and we may as well just go with Option 1. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT) | To be honest, even if we choose Option 2, I'm expecting the system to turn into Option 1, I would predict only staff would want to change it. And because of this, I see little point in trying to teach non-staff members how to do it, and we may as well just go with Option 1. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:38, 4 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
:I disagree. I'm sure several active non-admins would be interested in participating, and even if it's primarily used by admins, having the option for non-staff to be involved helps enforce the idea that admins are not kings. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Celeritous 19:12, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | :I disagree. I'm sure several active non-admins would be interested in participating, and even if it's primarily used by admins, having the option for non-staff to be involved helps enforce the idea that admins are not kings. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Celeritous 19:12, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I like option 2 because it means that administrators won't have to be constantly checking the activity level; they can just check the percentage level as it changes and make judgments from there and the activity level. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 20:03, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
I think option 2 should be used, but the line, "Can be done once every 24 hour and no more than once in a row in 48 hours", is confusing. Does this mean once a day, once ever other day, or something else? [[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 13:27, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:it means that if you change the percentage, you can't do it for the next day. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 13:47, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::So wouldn't it be easier to say once every 48 hours, for clarity?[[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 14:07, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:::I think there's a difference between "once" and "once in a row", but I'm not exactly sure what that difference is. It certainly means once a day, but you have some other restriction every other day. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 14:18, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::::Can someone clarify this?[[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 16:10, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:The idea is basically this: You can make one change a day, but if no one else has changed it since your last change, you must wait an extra day. I figure it's not strictly necessary, but it makes it harder for one user to skew the value when other users aren't too interested in participating. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Honcho 17:54, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
I see, thanks for clearing that up.[[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 18:43, 7 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
== <s>Oppose</s> == | == <s>Oppose</s> == | ||
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==What are the restrictions?== | ==What are the restrictions?== | ||
Am I missing something here? Have they not been decided upon yet | Am I missing something here? Have they not been decided upon yet or am I just too stupid to find them? '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> | ||
:Yeah okay that can do with some elaboration. I'll go put that in. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Ghostbuster 21:51, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::They same a bit vague, but I'm assuming that's because they'll be decided on a situation-by-situation basis. Overall, though, they don't seem unreasonable or too restrictive and I now feel comfortable supporting this proposal. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 23:36, 6 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
==And just out of curiosity...== | |||
Which status level would the Wiki be in now? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 09:15, 10 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:Green +10.--<font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 13:07, 10 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
When first implemented, it would start out at Green ±0%. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The SMASH-GINEER 18:38, 10 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Given the unanimous support == | |||
...I don't see any reason to not implement this straight without a "final vote" as originally predicted. If I don't hear dissent in the next few hours it's happening. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Quiet 17:22, 19 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
Alright then implementation is underway. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Producer 20:55, 20 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:bureaucracyyyyyyyyyy – [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 17:28, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::If you're going to voice a real opposition, do so. If not, don't make unnecessary comments. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 20:56, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Hmmmm == | |||
Is there any way we can put the status in Recent Changes? I don't ever really look at the main page, and I'm assuming may other users don't either. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 21:01, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:I +1 this. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:15, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::As do I. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 22:38, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
Yeah it can be done. I'll need to think of a way to do it that doesn't look funny though. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Celeritous 23:56, 21 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:Implemented. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 19:39, 22 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Percentage == | |||
I don't really understand the percentage. What does the value indicate? <sup>—[[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]</sup> my sig is not fancy 05:15, 22 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:The value is basically a measure of what the community thinks the status should be - higher values mean they think it should be upgraded, lower values mean they think it should be downgraded. Like in Smash Bros., a value of ±100% doesn't mean anything specific, but it does send a message to the admins that a change really should be made. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Trumpeteer 06:32, 22 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
::Ok, thanks. <sup>—[[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]</sup> my sig is not fancy 06:48, 22 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
==Category== | |||
I'm a bit torn trying to decide whether this should be considered a policy or a guideline. The consequences of status yellow and red match that of a policy, but this page is written in the style of a guideline, or even a help page, with the status sytem being a mere principle that this page guides users on. This page is currently considered a policy, but I am unsure if this should change or not. Could someone offer a decisive opinion? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:08, 23 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
:I am of the opinion it is a policy because while its ramifications are loose, its foundation is solid. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 16:44, 23 August 2012 (EDT) | |||
==Colors== | |||
What percentage does it need for the color for the circle to change other than green? [[User:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''Awesome'''''</font>]] 18:18, 18 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
:If you would take 5 minutes of your oh so precious time to read the percentage section above, you wouldn't have to ask this, but because your time is very valuable, I will say that there is no percentage for the color of the circle to change. The color will change when an admin feels like changing it. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:43, 18 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
:Since Mega was clear enough, I'll just expand. The purpose of the percentage is to give the admins an idea of what the community thinks about the status. If the percentage is really high, it indicates that the community favors a change in the status. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 23:11, 18 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Userspace == | |||
Restricting userspace edits is kinda dumb, no offense. Userspace is where users can do whatever they want, so '''''blocking''''' users for making too many edits in their userspace is stoopid. [[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 20:30, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:It clogs Recent Changes, especially in times of high activity, and makes it harder to manage the wiki effectively. In addition, some users make zero effort to actually contribute to the wiki and treat it like a forum site, and that is not the purpose of this wiki. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] ...or is he? 20:34, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:Isn't there like a feature that lets you show 500 changes? With that many, I don't think it will clog RC too much. [[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 20:52, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::There is, but even then, it clogs Recent Changes. [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 20:54, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::There's also a filter namespace feature. [[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 21:00, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::@72.181.167.204: You're missing the point. Focusing on the userspace side of the wiki doesn't help the wiki part of the site, the part that matters. Probation stops people from editing userpages and forums, which should help them focus on mainspace edits. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 20:58, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::I know we should still edit the mainspace pages, but '''blocking''' users for overediting in their own userspace is pretty dumb.[[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 21:00, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::You're ''still'' missing the point. [[SW:PROB]] exists so people are encouraged to edit the mainspace more than just their userspaces/forums. [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 21:03, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::Whatever, Hitler. I'll just go to the Super Smash Bros. wiki on Wikia where no stupid rules like this exist.[[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 21:10, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::::[[SW:NPA]] first of all. Secondly, they don't ban users for editing their userspace, they get put on probation, which prevents them from editing forums and userspaces and even then the probations usually only last 3-7 days, plus admins are usually pretty chill about the rule, I've seen many people get away with just a warning even in the red, they really only issue a probation when they ignore the warning. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 21:29, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::"Userspace and forum edits are heavily restricted: users will be strongly discouraged to make more than a few such edits a day, with too many too quickly resulting in a short block." [[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 22:58, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::Then it should be reworded, but in all my time here on the wiki, I've seen very, very few people actually get blocked for userspace edits (I've only seen like 3, but all of them were doing something else wrong as well) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 23:01, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::Whenever a user opens the editing page for his/her userpage, this is what the top says: | |||
::::::*'''''The wiki currently has a high Red [[SW:SSS|status]].''' Editing your userspace without contributing to the mainspace will result in your [[SW:PROB|probation]].'' [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 00:39, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Do we need to be in red starting February 3rd? == | |||
I know we were not in red for Ryu and Roy's release, but this release seems a lot bigger, given that it is to be the last DLC for Smash. As such, the edit volume on this day may be tremendous as we attempt to tie up loose ends. I have considered just putting us in red on Feb 3rd, but I wanted to hear what you all think first. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:29, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:I personally think we should go to Royu way. I mean, same number of characters. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:47, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Just because it's the same number doesn't mean it's not gonna be any more chaotic. As Serpent said, it's the last two DLC characters, people will be all over those and there will be chaos until everything's finished up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:48, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::(edit conflict) Yeah, but we didn't have the whole "end of DLC" bit to contend with, which I feel will add to the edit volume considerably <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:49, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
If red, how many updates are we allowed to make? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:50, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:There is no hard-fast limit, just make it reasonable. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:52, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::To SK and DF, good point. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:53, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::: To be clear, I think we should be in red for a couple of days, as that's when testing knockback and stuff like that wraps up. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:55, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Same number of characters? Three where released that day (Lucas was already known, however). -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 22:58, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::: Oops. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 23:05, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
<s>Yeah!! Let's go to pink!</s> Seems reasonable to go to red [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 07:00, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Everyone get your userspace edits in now, we are most likely going to be in red very soon. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:53, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
I disagree with red. We had much more information coming in for Royucas because it wasn't just the release but also a reveal, and we weren't in red and had no problem. Going to red for something we've known about for two months and is a smaller amount of content. just seems like an overreaction. I'd say keep it mid-to-high yellow and if we do suddenly get a wave of people for whatever reason, then we can switch it. But with only two characters and a stage that, again, we've known about for two months and already have footage for, plus the fact that basically no one is excited for them, I just think red is ridiculous. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:04, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== Color == | |||
What is required to change the status color? Is it something other than the number like what an admin does? The whole time I've been on here it has been yellow. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 21:36, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Uncontrollable amounts of traffic [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 21:37, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:To change the status color, a huge amount of info has to burst and traffic has to be very thick. An admin changes the status. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:pink;">'''The Lovingly Evil Clone'''</span>]] 22:22, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::Or there could be a lot ''less'' traffic to change to status. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']] [[User talk:Penro|...that's all.]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 22:25, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== + and - == | |||
I'm not sure. Would -5 mean less than (or equal to) 5 or five less than zero? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 18:47, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Less 5 less than 0 <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:50, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:The latter, I think. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 19:06, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
== What does this actually mean? == | |||
What does the number actually mean? Does it represent how the wiki normally is? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 20:54, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:The SWSS is a system for telling both how much there is to do and how much activity there is. It's primarily used to give users a feel for how many userspace edits they should be limiting themselves to. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:19, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
::I meant would does 0 represent how it normally is. Like, what would, say... -15 mean? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 22:16, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:-15 would mean that there is still stuff to do, but in general, the wiki is in good shape. We start to consider going to green around -30 or so <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:27, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Green == | |||
Will this wiki ever turn back to green? [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 15:49, 2 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
:As soon as the things to do tab goes below 1000, it's likely it'll revert to green at that point. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:51, 2 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Errors in there == | |||
It says for the yellow status: Userspace and forum edits are loosely restricted: warnings given for spending too much time in userspace/forums are given sooner, with locks and/or blocks following equally soon. But there's no such thing as a lock on the wiki, unless it means a page protection. [[File:AlbumArt-Dixie.png|20px]] [[User:TabuuandMasterCore|TabuuandMasterCore]] 07:40, 30 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
:I'm sure it means probation [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 07:42, 30 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Why is it green? == | |||
The things to do list isn't below 1,000 so why is it green? [[File:AlbumArt-Dixie.png|20px]] [[User:TabuuandMasterCore|TabuuandMasterCore]] 22:41, 13 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:A vote was put into place recently and the consensus was almost unanimous to bring it to green. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:52, 13 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== What is the point of this system? == | |||
I don't get why this system is a thing, why is it around in the first place? [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:George Jones|George Jones]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 20:20, 4 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
:it's for a user to get a feel for how busy we are at any time, especially so they can know how much to edit their userspace without being in trouble. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:13, 4 August 2018 (EDT) | |||