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{{template:rfa close|failed|Candidate has significant opposition and does not appear to have demonstrated a need for admin powers. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Xanthic 19:00, June 15, 2019 (EDT)}}
=== [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Awesomelink234|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Awesomelink234|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234 (3)|RFA page]]) ===
=== [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Awesomelink234|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Awesomelink234|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234 (3)|RFA page]]) ===
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
After my [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234|two]] [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234 (2)|previous]] failed RfAs, which failed because I was inexperienced and not yet prepared for a admin position, I'm finally applying again, with nearly six years of SmashWiki experience, basic moderation knowledge, and over 2000 edits. I have reviewed SmashWiki's various policies, and can enforce them if necessary. When it comes to dispute handling, I try to do my best to resolve it efficiently without too much of a hassle. Also, I have rollback, which I use as a most basic form of reverting vandalism, should any come up. I'm on this wiki nearly every day, whether it be for ''Smash'' research, or adding new things to articles, which means I can perform administrative duties when needed.
After my [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234|two]] [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Awesomelink234 (2)|previous]] failed RfAs, which failed because I was inexperienced and not yet prepared for a admin position, I'm finally applying again, with nearly six years of SmashWiki experience, basic moderation knowledge, and over 2000 edits. I have reviewed SmashWiki's various policies, and can enforce them if necessary. When it comes to dispute handling, I try to do my best to resolve it efficiently without too much of a hassle. Also, I have rollback, which I use as a most basic form of reverting vandalism, should any come up. I'm on this wiki nearly every day, whether it be for ''Smash'' research, or adding new things to articles, which means I can perform administrative duties when needed.
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==== Oppose ====
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#'''Oppose'''. You seem to still have quite the tendency to get yourself involved in conflicts in a way which isn't conducive to helping to resolve them. You don't seem 100% familiar with all of our policies, and I'm really not seeing much change in your general attitude since your last absence from the wiki. <br/><br/>As for your RfA, here's my breakdown of why there really isn't much of substance to it: <br/><br/> 1. ''"with nearly six years of SmashWiki experience [...] and over 2000 edits"'' - neither of these make you any more qualified than your typical user to become a sysop. <br/><br/> 2. ''"basic moderation knowledge"'' - your edit history doesn't testify to this at all, the only real moderation knowledge you've demonstrated is you understand how [[SW:VANDAL]] works, and that's about it. Contrary to your later claim that ''"When it comes to dispute handling, I try to do my best to resolve it efficiently without too much of a hassle"'', you don't seem to have been doing any dispute handling at all, if anything you have a tendency to ''start'' disputes rather than resolve them. <br/><br/> 3. ''"I have reviewed SmashWiki's various policies, and can enforce them if necessary"'' - I've only really seen one instance of you attempting to enforce any policy other than [[SW:VANDAL]] (which most users enforce anyway), and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Change&diff=prev&oldid=1229320 considering how that went], I don't think you have any basis for making this claim. <br/><br/> 4. ''"Also, I have rollback, which I use as a most basic form of reverting vandalism, should any come up."'' - While this is a nice thing for aspiring admins to be able to use, ultimately rollback is merely a rudimentary "edit out-of-date revision quickly" tool which is [[SW:RfR|fairly trivial to obtain]]. <br/><br/> 5. ''"I'm on this wiki nearly every day, whether it be for Smash research, or adding new things to articles"'' - See 1. <br/><br/> Overall, I'm simply not convinced that you are suitable for the roll and accompanying responsibilities of adminship at this time. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 07:27, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. You seem to still have quite the tendency to get yourself involved in conflicts in a way which isn't conducive to helping to resolve them. You don't seem 100% familiar with all of our policies, and I'm really not seeing much change in your general attitude since your last absence from the wiki. <br/><br/>As for your RfA, here's my breakdown of why there really isn't much of substance to it: <br/><br/> 1. ''"with nearly six years of SmashWiki experience [...] and over 2000 edits"'' - neither of these make you any more qualified than your typical user to become a sysop. <br/><br/> 2. ''"basic moderation knowledge"'' - your edit history doesn't testify to this at all, the only real moderation knowledge you've demonstrated is you understand how [[SW:VANDAL]] works, and that's about it. Contrary to your later claim that ''"When it comes to dispute handling, I try to do my best to resolve it efficiently without too much of a hassle"'', you don't seem to have been doing any dispute handling at all, if anything you have a tendency to ''start'' disputes rather than resolve them. <br/><br/> 3. ''"I have reviewed SmashWiki's various policies, and can enforce them if necessary"'' - I've only really seen one instance of you attempting to enforce any policy other than [[SW:VANDAL]] (which most users enforce anyway), and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Change&diff=prev&oldid=1229320 considering how that went], I don't think you have any basis for making this claim. <br/><br/> 4. ''"Also, I have rollback, which I use as a most basic form of reverting vandalism, should any come up."'' - While this is a nice thing for aspiring admins to be able to use, ultimately rollback is merely a rudimentary "edit out-of-date revision quickly" tool which is [[SW:RfR|fairly trivial to obtain]]. <br/><br/> 5. ''"I'm on this wiki nearly every day, whether it be for Smash research, or adding new things to articles"'' - See 1. <br/><br/> Overall, I'm simply not convinced that you are suitable for the role and accompanying responsibilities of adminship at this time. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 07:27, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Nope'''. I wasn't around for your previous two RfA's, but I did look over them before typing this post, and the general consensus seems to be that you're simply not experienced/qualified enough for the position despite being a good-faith editor. And maybe it's just me, but I also feel that making multiple attempts at gaining adminship within such a short timespan gives the impression of a lust for power, or a desire to become "one of the cool kids", which is not a good look for anyone. But being the nice guy that I am, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're ''not'' power-hungry. Even so, the stuff you've listed this time around is just stuff that anyone is capable of, and adminship would not be needed in order to carry out those tasks. You also fail to mention how the Wiki would significantly benefit from promoting you (especially considering how we arguably have plenty of admins as of now), or any traits you might have that the current staff doesn't. And finally, it seems that even after five years since your second try, you still haven't improved much, despite clearly being a good-faith editor. Sorry, but I can't stand behind this one. Just stick with rollback for now. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 10:43, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Nope'''. I wasn't around for your previous two RfA's, but I did look over them before typing this post, and the general consensus seems to be that you're simply not experienced/qualified enough for the position despite being a good-faith editor. And maybe it's just me, but I also feel that making multiple attempts at gaining adminship within such a short timespan gives the impression of a lust for power, or a desire to become "one of the cool kids", which is not a good look for anyone. But being the nice guy that I am, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're ''not'' power-hungry. Even so, the stuff you've listed this time around is just stuff that anyone is capable of, and adminship would not be needed in order to carry out those tasks. You also fail to mention how the Wiki would significantly benefit from promoting you (especially considering how we arguably have plenty of admins as of now), or any traits you might have that the current staff doesn't. And finally, it seems that even after five years since your second try, you still haven't improved much, despite clearly being a good-faith editor. Sorry, but I can't stand behind this one. Just stick with rollback for now. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 10:43, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Slight oppose''': I believe that you have the potential to be a great systop - you've helped a lot with wiki stuff, and interactions with you have been positive. However, this is an administrator position that you are looking for, one of, if not, the more important positions on this wiki, and I don't believe you have really proven yourself to do it. What I wanted to say has already been mentioned above, mostly by Alex, so I won't really repeat much. However, I would like to address how it seems like you're doing this RfA simply because you believe you have enough experience on the wiki. You haven't given much specifics on how you have improved/affected the wiki since you last applied, and most of your reasons that you have listed are either very vague/somewhat debatable or isn't something that's too important for a RfA. If you can prove that you are a great enforcer and can properly handle disputes while giving details as to how, then I believe you would be fine. Until then, I have to lean towards the opposing side. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:45, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Slight oppose''': I believe that you have the potential to be a great systop - you've helped a lot with wiki stuff, and interactions with you have been positive. However, this is an administrator position that you are looking for, one of, if not, the more important positions on this wiki, and I don't believe you have really proven yourself to do it. What I wanted to say has already been mentioned above, mostly by Alex, so I won't really repeat much. However, I would like to address how it seems like you're doing this RfA simply because you believe you have enough experience on the wiki. You haven't given much specifics on how you have improved/affected the wiki since you last applied, and most of your reasons that you have listed are either very vague/somewhat debatable or isn't something that's too important for a RfA. If you can prove that you are a great enforcer and can properly handle disputes while giving details as to how, then I believe you would be fine. Until then, I have to lean towards the opposing side. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:45, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
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#*You say you can easily resolve disputes, but where's the proof? I have never seen you resolve a conflict, but maybe I am overlooking something? Going through your very few talkpage posts tells me that this isn't the case. I'm not finding anything overly concerning, but I am also not finding really any experience handling conflicts. All I am really seeing is warnings and reminders, which are not examples of conflict resolution.
#*You say you can easily resolve disputes, but where's the proof? I have never seen you resolve a conflict, but maybe I am overlooking something? Going through your very few talkpage posts tells me that this isn't the case. I'm not finding anything overly concerning, but I am also not finding really any experience handling conflicts. All I am really seeing is warnings and reminders, which are not examples of conflict resolution.
#*To be honest, this is your 3rd RfA with relatively little amounts of improvement between them. You want the position, but you don't want to put in the work required to prove that you deserve it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 02:24, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#*To be honest, this is your 3rd RfA with relatively little amounts of improvement between them. You want the position, but you don't want to put in the work required to prove that you deserve it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 02:24, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
::::SK, I was wondering, are there any limits on how many RfAs a person can write? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  17:02, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#::SK, I was wondering, are there any limits on how many RfAs a person can write? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  17:02, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
:::::There is no specific limit on how many RfAs someone can make, aside from the potential negative effects on your chances that repeatedly applying and failing may have. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:13, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#:::There is no specific limit on how many RfAs someone can make, aside from the potential negative effects on your chances that repeatedly applying and failing may have. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:13, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. Yeahhh I can't really say this is a good RfA, let alone there isn't any proof that shows that you will be a competent admin. Been here "for a while now", moderate edit count, knowing the rules and enforcing them, yeah, other users can do those accomplishments too (and honestly we don't judge RfAs based on those things), except that you still mess up with some of the said policies from time to time. I don't think you have a full understanding of what adminship is yet. Sorry to break it to ya bud. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 00:35, June 7, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. Yeahhh I can't really say this is a good RfA, let alone there isn't any proof that shows that you will be a competent admin. Been here "for a while now", moderate edit count, knowing the rules and enforcing them, yeah, other users can do those accomplishments too (and honestly we don't judge RfAs based on those things), except that you still mess up with some of the said policies from time to time. I don't think you have a full understanding of what adminship is yet. Sorry to break it to ya bud. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 00:35, June 7, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. In spite of what you put forward in your RfA, there are some contradictory things I have noticed: you say you’ve reviewed the policies, but [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Change&diff=prev&oldid=1229320 you seem to still not understand them fully] (and, judging by [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Young_Link_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=1238953 this edit], you also seem to miss things that a full read-through of a page, policy or not, would tell you); you say you’re good at conflict resolution, but, going off of both the examples you provided, one was a proposal starter that, looking at the rest of it, instigated a dispute more than it did solving it, and the other was an argument against a thing that was already put in place, which I’m surprised still stood when you undid the edit (and also, from what I’ve seen, [[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|you only seem to step in after someone has said something]]); you say you have moderation experience, but you lack proof/evidence suggesting so (even [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|I]], albeit not linking to them, dropped the fact that I’ve moderated and run more personal wikis prior to gaining adminship, with [[User:Disaster Flare|two]] [[User:DracoRexKing|users]] backing me up on that); you, like many others, bring up edit count and years of experience, but that does not matter in the grand scheme of things - one can learn the ropes of a wiki in a few days if they spend time handling everything. You also fail to give a reason ''why'' you should be granted adminship. When I ran, we were short on staff - only SK and Toomai were really at it, and there were four admins who were semi-active. Granted, things haven’t really changed since then, but the three of us are still active and handling things well (even if, admittedly, there hasn’t been much to handle, though that may change come E3). Overall, unless you can convince me otherwise, I see no real reason to say "okay, this user would be a good admin" (which, for the record, isn’t to say that you would necessarily make a ''bad'' admin). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:45, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. In spite of what you put forward in your RfA, there are some contradictory things I have noticed: you say you’ve reviewed the policies, but [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Change&diff=prev&oldid=1229320 you seem to still not understand them fully] (and, judging by [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Young_Link_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=1238953 this edit], you also seem to miss things that a full read-through of a page, policy or not, would tell you); you say you’re good at conflict resolution, but, going off of both the examples you provided, one was a proposal starter that, looking at the rest of it, instigated a dispute more than it did solving it, and the other was an argument against a thing that was already put in place, which I’m surprised still stood when you undid the edit (and also, from what I’ve seen, [[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|you only seem to step in after someone has said something]]); you say you have moderation experience, but you lack proof/evidence suggesting so (even [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|I]], albeit not linking to them, dropped the fact that I’ve moderated and run more personal wikis prior to gaining adminship, with [[User:Disaster Flare|two]] [[User:DracoRexKing|users]] backing me up on that); you, like many others, bring up edit count and years of experience, but that does not matter in the grand scheme of things - one can learn the ropes of a wiki in a few days if they spend time handling everything. You also fail to give a reason ''why'' you should be granted adminship. When I ran, we were short on staff - only SK and Toomai were really at it, and there were four admins who were semi-active. Granted, things haven’t really changed since then, but the three of us are still active and handling things well (even if, admittedly, there hasn’t been much to handle, though that may change come E3). Overall, unless you can convince me otherwise, I see no real reason to say "okay, this user would be a good admin" (which, for the record, isn’t to say that you would necessarily make a ''bad'' admin). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:45, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose'''. Bro you watch way too much Toonami lmao. Maybe in a couple more years when you stop shilling Pokemon Lets Go jesus christ dude <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:165.231.210.174|165.231.210.174]] ([[User talk:165.231.210.174|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/165.231.210.174|contribs]]) 19:36, June 10th, 2019</small>
#:That was a bit uncalled for. Let's try and keep this more civilized, jah? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:40, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
#'''Oppose.''' I have looked at your two other requests of adminship, and the main recurring thing that hurts your chances is how short and barebones your requests are, and how you don't go into specifics. In the Comments section at the bottom of this page, you provided some examples of your attempts at conflict resolution (however small they were), so why didn't you at least include them in your request? Look at the [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Accepted_RfAs accepted RfAs]; they always mention examples to help their case, and they actually go into a lot detail instead of just writing a tiny paragraph. While you do seem like a good sport with your helpful edits, you'll need a much more convincing case, and for that, you'll have to show a clear ability to do things expected of an admin, including real conflict moderation. [[User:Anthony1996|Anthony1996]] ([[User talk:Anthony1996|talk]]) 00:00, June 11, 2019 (EDT)


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While I'm going to refrain from giving my opinion as of right now, I would like to ask for some examples of you doing conflict resolution, because going through your edits, I can't find anything that sticks out, so I'd like to make sure I'm not missing something before passing judgement. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:38, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
While I'm going to refrain from giving my opinion as of right now, I would like to ask for some examples of you doing conflict resolution, because going through your edits, I can't find anything that sticks out, so I'd like to make sure I'm not missing something before passing judgement. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:38, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
:[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:General_proposals&diff=prev&oldid=1229329 This] is my attempt to solve the debate on whether or not tabbers should be used on top-of-page quotes, and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wii_Fit_Trainer_(SSBU)&diff=1232369&oldid=1232318 here] is my attempt to solve whether or not the names of Wii Fit Trainer's non-special move poses should go the moveset box. If you're referring to solving existing conflicts, like those between users, then there's not really much of that, due to the fact I don't see it happen often. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 11:21, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
:[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:General_proposals&diff=prev&oldid=1229329 This] is my attempt to solve the debate on whether or not tabbers should be used on top-of-page quotes, and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wii_Fit_Trainer_(SSBU)&diff=1232369&oldid=1232318 here] is my attempt to solve whether or not the names of Wii Fit Trainer's non-special move poses should go the moveset box. If you're referring to solving existing conflicts, like those between users, then there's not really much of that, due to the fact I don't see it happen often. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 11:21, June 8, 2019 (EDT)
::These are not examples of conflict moderation. The first is a mere suggestion, the second is the same, though I'll give you that the intention was to break up an edit war. This still does not count. This skill is crucial for an administrator to have, without it, you'll be ill-equipped to deal with certain situations when they arise. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:04, June 8, 2019 (EDT)


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