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This move can be land-canceled, meaning using shine in the air and landing on a surface (without holding B) will cancel the move. Due to this, using shine immediately after jumping activates a frame 1 hitbox with little-to-no end lag. This technique can be very useful for extending combos and performing [[mindgame]]s, and it can also immediately be followed up with many moves, such as a jab to perform a '''shine jab''', an up or down tilt to continue a combo, or another shine to rack up additional damage (this can also throw unwary opponents offguard). Otherwise, a jump or dash "cancel" can be used afterwards, with a perfectly-timed shine cancel allowing Fox to start a [[tech chase]].
This move can be land-canceled, meaning using shine in the air and landing on a surface (without holding B) will cancel the move. Due to this, using shine immediately after jumping activates a frame 1 hitbox with little-to-no end lag. This technique can be very useful for extending combos and performing [[mindgame]]s, and it can also immediately be followed up with many moves, such as a jab to perform a '''shine jab''', an up or down tilt to continue a combo, or another shine to rack up additional damage (this can also throw unwary opponents offguard). Otherwise, a jump or dash "cancel" can be used afterwards, with a perfectly-timed shine cancel allowing Fox to start a [[tech chase]].


Likewise to the move being cancelled out of a short hop, the move can even be used to cancel Fox's aerial momentum just after landing on a platform, allowing Fox to quickly followup with ground moves (most particularly an {{mvsub|Fox|SSB|up smash}}) while having to go in the air to continue a combo. This is notable in the "shine pillar up smash" combo, done in the [[rapetent]] portion of [[Hyrule Castle]] and popularized by {{Sm|The Z}}. It involves launching the opponent to the top of the structure with an {{mvsub|Fox|SSB|up tilt}}, jumping up to the top of the structure, cancelling aerial momentum with a shine, then immediately using an up smash to KO the opponent while they are still in [[hitstun]].  
Likewise to the move being cancelled out of a short hop, the move can even be used to cancel Fox's aerial momentum just after landing on a platform, allowing Fox to quickly followup with ground moves (most particularly an {{mvsub|Fox|SSB|up smash}}) while having to go in the air to continue a combo. This is notable in the "shine pillar up smash" combo, done in the tent portion of [[Hyrule Castle]] and popularized by {{Sm|The Z}}. It involves launching the opponent to the top of the structure with an {{mvsub|Fox|SSB|up tilt}}, jumping up to the top of the structure, cancelling aerial momentum with a shine, then immediately using an up smash to KO the opponent while they are still in [[hitstun]].  


Experiments with the Red Shell item have shown that the Reflector will shatter if it bounces back the same projectile too many times which indicates an upper limit to how much base damage the reflected projectile should have before making contact with the Reflector. When this happens, Fox will go through the stun animation and be completely vulnerable to attack.
Experiments with the Red Shell item have shown that the Reflector will shatter if it bounces back the same projectile too many times which indicates an upper limit to how much base damage the reflected projectile should have before making contact with the Reflector. When this happens, Fox will go through the stun animation and be completely vulnerable to attack.