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Perhaps this category could be renamed "Smashers who ''have'' participated in SmashWiki", if the category is to be for Smashers who have impacted this site tremendously? --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 09:31, 4 November 2012 (EST)
Perhaps this category could be renamed "Smashers who ''have'' participated in SmashWiki", if the category is to be for Smashers who have impacted this site tremendously? --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 09:31, 4 November 2012 (EST)
== How does this work? ==
How do notable smashers get on here. Looking at "edit this page", it must be automatic. And why is {{sm|ZeRo}} on here? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 15:47, 30 January 2016 (EST)
:You just add the category to the Smasher pages. And if you look at the edit history for ZeRo, you can see that ZeRo himself created his page. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:49, 30 January 2016 (EST)
::You sure {{user|KoRoBeNiKi}} is him? Just becuase his name is stylized like that doesn't mean he's him. Ctrl F "zero" doesn't do anything. He looks like a 64 fan. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 23:14, 30 January 2016 (EST)
:::Based on the fact that there's also [[Smasher:KoRoBeNiKi]], I'd say DF's information is wrong. There is [[Special:Contributions/CT ZeRo|CT ZeRo]] though. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  23:17, 30 January 2016 (EST)
::::Oh I am become error. I meant that he edited it before. I forgot that he wasn't the one who created the article itself. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:19, 30 January 2016 (EST)
== Proof these are actually pro smashers ==
Are you guys sure most of these actually participate(d) in SmashWiki. Anyone can put the name of a smasher and edit their page to look like they are that person whether or not they are even trying to appear to be them. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 12:08, 13 February 2016 (EST)
:I think that the users in question confirm that they edited via Smashwiki on YouTube or Twitter. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']] [[User talk:Penro|...that's all.]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 12:10, 13 February 2016 (EST)
::[[SW:AGF]]'s a thing. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="magenta">cupid♥</font>]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  12:16, 13 February 2016 (EST)
:::...and how does that apply? [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']] [[User talk:Penro|...that's all.]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 12:18, 13 February 2016 (EST)
::::Assume good faith - assume that they are not lying to us about their identities. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="magenta">cupid♥</font>]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:43, 13 February 2016 (EST)
:::::Yeah, I said "Whether or not they are even trying to appear to be them" so maybe they just made it be their name because they are a fan of them (they may seem to be trying to impersonate them if they do that though). We can't just blindly assume it's them though so we should probable ask them to confirm. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 18:58, 13 February 2016 (EST)
Can we filter this to those who at least dedicated themselves in editing SmashWiki? [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Marine 12:20, 13 February 2016 (EST)
To cite AGF here is to take it wildly out of scope. AGF is supposed to mean "don't take an erroneous edit as vandalism", not "assume they are correct" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:10, 13 February 2016 (EST)
:I'm not assuming they're correct, I'm assuming that they are not liars who are trying to fool us. That's kind of the same deal as assuming they are not vandals but just don't know what they're doing. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="magenta">cupid♥</font>]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  19:22, 13 February 2016 (EST)
== Questioning a lot of the players being in this category ==
The purpose of this category isn't just to be applied to every player with a smasher article who happens to have an account here, but are actually involved with the wiki to a significant degree. However a lot of the people currently in this category don't really have a lot of edits and never got involved with SmashWiki's community, while their edits also tend to be mostly just to their smasher article and a few other articles related to them or their scene. At worst you have Biddy here, who [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Biddy literally only made just one edit to their smasher article]. Maybe people will object to removing players from this category on a subjective basis, but really anyone who isn't at least an [[SW:EST|established user]] absolutely should not be in this category. I'll clean it up but I'll wait to see what others here have to say about it first. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:32, February 21, 2021 (EST)
:I agree, and I think the wiki could have better handling of covering information regarding the competitive community; I know you've spoken out about the competitive play section for each character not having actually notable players, or characters being listed on smasher pages despite said smasher only using them once or twice. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Lovely Rurouni'''</span>]] 15:41, February 21, 2021 (EST)
:One way of going about this would be just to remove anyone on this list who isn't autoconfirmed and have at least edited a couple articles outside or their own page. I can't imagine anyone arguing those individuals shouldn't be removed. After that, if there are some borderline cases left they could be brought up as a group and discussed. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 15:49, February 21, 2021 (EST)
::Established users should really be the baseline over autoconfirmed, as autoconfirmed status pretty much just means you're confirmed to likely not be a malicious user and so has extremely low requirements to meet, whereas reaching established status does require some sort of actual work, and if you don't have at least 100 edits to reach established status, it's extremely unlikely you would be considered all that participative here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:58, February 21, 2021 (EST)
:I agree that established users should be the baseline, but since there's also the 90 day limit for established users I feel like autoconfirmed users who reach 100 edits can have this category as well. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 16:29, February 21, 2021 (EST)