SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/ToastUltimatum (2): Difference between revisions

sorry toast
(If what I said was an oppose, then move it to the oppose section, 'cause I don't know if what I said was an oppose or not)
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#We need more admins before the SSB4 rush, and I trust ToastUltimatum with this powers. He is already an admin on many wikis, including [[icaruspedia:User:ToastUltimatum|three]] [[fzerowiki:User:ToastUltimatum|NIWA]] [[lylatwiki:User:ToastUltimatum|wikis]]. I completely support Toast. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">DarkFox01:</font>]] [[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Smashing</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="gray">in</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/DarkFox01|<font color="red">Summer</font>]]''' 19:06, 4 August 2012 (EDT)
#We need more admins before the SSB4 rush, and I trust ToastUltimatum with this powers. He is already an admin on many wikis, including [[icaruspedia:User:ToastUltimatum|three]] [[fzerowiki:User:ToastUltimatum|NIWA]] [[lylatwiki:User:ToastUltimatum|wikis]]. I completely support Toast. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">DarkFox01:</font>]] [[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Smashing</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="gray">in</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/DarkFox01|<font color="red">Summer</font>]]''' 19:06, 4 August 2012 (EDT)
#A good admin needs to know the policies (check) and enforce the policies (check). Toast is a respected user who does get asked questions by new users. Sure, this may be because he welcomes them. The point is that he helps them anyway. ''This'' is admin material. Toast is also a good editor and had rollback, two things that I think go in his favor. To me, Toast could be a good admin. And, we may not need new admins ''right'' now but will do in a few months time when more SSB4 news and rumors start to surface so better to get admins now than to recruit them closer to the time on short notice. <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px gold; font-family:Elephant">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:green">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:white">'''•'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Contribs.</span>]])</sup></span> 06:39, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
#A good admin needs to know the policies (check) and enforce the policies (check). Toast is a respected user who does get asked questions by new users. Sure, this may be because he welcomes them. The point is that he helps them anyway. ''This'' is admin material. Toast is also a good editor and had rollback, two things that I think go in his favor. To me, Toast could be a good admin. And, we may not need new admins ''right'' now but will do in a few months time when more SSB4 news and rumors start to surface so better to get admins now than to recruit them closer to the time on short notice. <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px gold; font-family:Elephant">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:green">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:white">'''•'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Contribs.</span>]])</sup></span> 06:39, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
#If you know your way though the admin tools, help with user disputes, and help work with the janitorial work then you will be a great admin. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|PSI Asian]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 21:57, 5 August 2012 (EDT)


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#'''Oppose:''' Redefining my definition of janitorial work, I see that the wiki really isn't in urgent need of such chores. Looking at the other opposing arguments and the comments below, I don't have much to add, but I must say, the heated moments in the debate, especially the use of logical fallacies to defend your points in the comments section sheds doubt on your ability to enforce policies, as well as how you will fare in disputes to come. I mean this in no way a personal attack; you're still one of the friendliest users I know, but looking at everything here, your qualities that merit adminship are overshadowed by qualities that make your ability to lead questionable.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 12:45, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
#'''Oppose:''' Redefining my definition of janitorial work, I see that the wiki really isn't in urgent need of such chores. Looking at the other opposing arguments and the comments below, I don't have much to add, but I must say, the heated moments in the debate, especially the use of logical fallacies to defend your points in the comments section sheds doubt on your ability to enforce policies, as well as how you will fare in disputes to come. I mean this in no way a personal attack; you're still one of the friendliest users I know, but looking at everything here, your qualities that merit adminship are overshadowed by qualities that make your ability to lead questionable.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 12:45, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
#'''Oppose''': Although I might not agree with all of OT's statements in the argument below, I still think that your misconstruing of wiki policy in an attempt to stop the discussion shows poorly for your ability to handle admin powers.  As an admin, you would have even more power and leverage regarding personal disputes and whatnot, and you have to give the impression that you can do the job responsibly.  I don't have anything against you, personally, but adminship on any wiki is a big deal and I would have to actually actively support someone to give them my vote. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 13:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
#'''Oppose''': Although I might not agree with all of OT's statements in the argument below, I still think that your misconstruing of wiki policy in an attempt to stop the discussion shows poorly for your ability to handle admin powers.  As an admin, you would have even more power and leverage regarding personal disputes and whatnot, and you have to give the impression that you can do the job responsibly.  I don't have anything against you, personally, but adminship on any wiki is a big deal and I would have to actually actively support someone to give them my vote. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 13:15, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
#'''Strong Oppose''': Oh, Were really fine right now so I don't think we need an janitorial admin for now. There are enough admins for now. You don't need the admin tools as I'm not sure of how your going to use them in a useful way. I also don't want an admin to falsely accuse another user of policy violations and attempt to censorship of their negative opinions of user's abilities. To me I don't think your responsible for this job yet. Despite me knowing that your one of the nicest and trusted users on Smashwiki, I'm strong opposing as your abilities as admin are very dull. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|PSI Asian]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 14:53, 6 August 2012 (EDT)


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